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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:28 GMT
#561
And WBG is one of the most pro-town players atm, yamato is not scummy.
If you want to call them scum you need to debunk my arguments on them.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 08 2014 04:29 GMT
#562
corazon is back on my would-kill list
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 08 2014 04:29 GMT
#563
On January 08 2014 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn:
Well then you should not post when you are under influence. I stopped posting drunk when i realized that's a fucking terrible idea. yamato even asked you to stop posting last night when you told us you are stoned.

WoS:
I try to elaborate as well as i can onto yamato. What yamato does as mafia is two things. He does not play for an all game plan. He plays for (1) survival, usually lurks, and (2) fuels arguments between townies. 1 and 2 are important, usually lurking is something that's not so important as he is able to change that if he wants to.
1) This can be seen in GoT, where i played scum with him. We had a game plan from the beginning but yamato's mindset was pretty much "i won't get lynched on D1". I don't remember he was doing much else than trying to survive D2.
2) This can be seen from 4 Persona, where yamato's pure purpose was to fuel me vs you argument until it ended up in a townie lynch. After that he discredited me for all D2, but when i basically solved the game on N2 he had no other option than to night kill me, even though i lynched a cop on D1 and had a red check on me. That's how "confident" yamato feels his scumplay is.

What he has done in this game is neither of those things.

Would you not consider his last couple of posts 'confident' in him not getting lynched today?
I dunno Rayn it's like I said to WBG, I am not particularly good at meta, and I very rarely see it getting used well so I can't really take reads solely based on meta into account. I see what yamato has done in this game, and it's scummy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:31 GMT
#564
On January 08 2014 13:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn:
Well then you should not post when you are under influence. I stopped posting drunk when i realized that's a fucking terrible idea. yamato even asked you to stop posting last night when you told us you are stoned.

WoS:
I try to elaborate as well as i can onto yamato. What yamato does as mafia is two things. He does not play for an all game plan. He plays for (1) survival, usually lurks, and (2) fuels arguments between townies. 1 and 2 are important, usually lurking is something that's not so important as he is able to change that if he wants to.
1) This can be seen in GoT, where i played scum with him. We had a game plan from the beginning but yamato's mindset was pretty much "i won't get lynched on D1". I don't remember he was doing much else than trying to survive D2.
2) This can be seen from 4 Persona, where yamato's pure purpose was to fuel me vs you argument until it ended up in a townie lynch. After that he discredited me for all D2, but when i basically solved the game on N2 he had no other option than to night kill me, even though i lynched a cop on D1 and had a red check on me. That's how "confident" yamato feels his scumplay is.

What he has done in this game is neither of those things.

Would you not consider his last couple of posts 'confident' in him not getting lynched today?
I dunno Rayn it's like I said to WBG, I am not particularly good at meta, and I very rarely see it getting used well so I can't really take reads solely based on meta into account. I see what yamato has done in this game, and it's scummy.

It's not scummy, it's "not caring". That's not necessarily scummy, especially for yamato who has been not caring as town many times at the start of the game.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:32 GMT
#565
On January 08 2014 13:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon you don't seem to know what OMGUS means because what i am doing is nowhere near OMGUSing.
Instead of making crappy arguments could you comment on the case?

No. I'm not going to comment on it. It is a stupid fight and it's going to derail the town just like in BttB.

@WoS
I didn't say all of the inactives were scummy. You need to read man. I just said we need to figure out which of them are lurking town and which are lurking scum. The two lynches I want the most are WBG and Yamato.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 08 2014 04:32 GMT
#566
Corazon why don't you think rayn or myself deserve to be looked at today? I doubt that anyone would be able to confidently rule either of us completely out of the race
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:33 GMT
#567
He promised to start playing.

If he fails to do so, or does scummy stuff when he starts playing, then we can revisit Cora's argument about yamato<->me and re-think "hmm.. maybe yamato could do that as mafia, what was he in fact doing there?". But right now it's not scummy, maybe you can consider it null, but i'd lean town on him for what he has done and what he usually does as scum.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 08 2014 04:33 GMT
#568
On January 08 2014 13:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 13:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 08 2014 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn:
Well then you should not post when you are under influence. I stopped posting drunk when i realized that's a fucking terrible idea. yamato even asked you to stop posting last night when you told us you are stoned.

WoS:
I try to elaborate as well as i can onto yamato. What yamato does as mafia is two things. He does not play for an all game plan. He plays for (1) survival, usually lurks, and (2) fuels arguments between townies. 1 and 2 are important, usually lurking is something that's not so important as he is able to change that if he wants to.
1) This can be seen in GoT, where i played scum with him. We had a game plan from the beginning but yamato's mindset was pretty much "i won't get lynched on D1". I don't remember he was doing much else than trying to survive D2.
2) This can be seen from 4 Persona, where yamato's pure purpose was to fuel me vs you argument until it ended up in a townie lynch. After that he discredited me for all D2, but when i basically solved the game on N2 he had no other option than to night kill me, even though i lynched a cop on D1 and had a red check on me. That's how "confident" yamato feels his scumplay is.

What he has done in this game is neither of those things.

Would you not consider his last couple of posts 'confident' in him not getting lynched today?
I dunno Rayn it's like I said to WBG, I am not particularly good at meta, and I very rarely see it getting used well so I can't really take reads solely based on meta into account. I see what yamato has done in this game, and it's scummy.

It's not scummy, it's "not caring". That's not necessarily scummy, especially for yamato who has been not caring as town many times at the start of the game.

Well as I already said to him, we'll see.
You want to discuss Cora's recent return to the thread with a terrible 'AMG Mommy and Daddy are fighting please stop'?
And of course directing us to focus our attention on basically everybody else.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:34 GMT
#569
I am pretty sure Corazon is mafia too.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 08 2014 04:35 GMT
#570
Cora, I HIGHLY doubt WBG is getting lynched today, and if he were, I HIGHLY doubt it would be anything you posted that got him there.

Why is yamato scum, Cora?
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:35 GMT
#571
Wave, that fight as stupid. All I saw were flashbacks to BttB. I felt like I had to stop it.
You need to start thinking because you aren't doing that right now.

@Thrawn
I think you two have had decent contributions to the scumhunt and frankly, I see your back-and-forth b/w you and Rayn to be town on town. I also would hate to lynch Rayn D1. It would just be bad play overall, barring a scum claim from him.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 08 2014 04:36 GMT
#572
On January 08 2014 13:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty sure Corazon is mafia too.

I prefer him over Yamato.
##unvote
##vote Corazon
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:36 GMT
#573
On January 07 2014 15:36 Corazon wrote:
Wow Yamato. You are really playing to your scum meta.

First, you post two troll posts and then peace out, only to come back and call Rayn cavalier? That seems really hypocritical to me.

There's nothing I've seen that points to Rayn being scum for me. He's playing exactly like I've seen him do countless times as town.

You, on the other hand, are throwing your vote around without any care. You're projecting your scummy traits onto Rayn, just like you did to me in Red Team's Prize. Who else would want to join me on a Yamato lynch?

##Vote: Yamato


Not much of this has changed, save for the fact that Yamato continues to lurk.
Grubby's #1 Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:36 GMT
#574
It's not a fucking fight. I made a case on thrawn and i want you to comment on it.
If you don't, you deserve to get lynched because you (incorrectly) accuse of WBG not playing the game and then you yourself refuse to play the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:37 GMT
#575
##unvote;
##Vote: Corazon
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:38 GMT
#576
All I saw was thrawn say he wanted you lynched, and then you voted him and made the case afterwards. That means that you were only attacking him because he attacked you.
Grubby's #1 Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:39 GMT
#577
Corazon show me thrawn's contributions to scumhunting.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:40 GMT
#578
On January 08 2014 13:38 Corazon wrote:
All I saw was thrawn say he wanted you lynched, and then you voted him and made the case afterwards. That means that you were only attacking him because he attacked you.

If you think this is the case you have clearly put no thought on my posts / thought process about thrawn.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 08 2014 04:40 GMT
#579
I don't know Rayn, it's hard to be cooperative with a gun down your throat.
Grubby's #1 Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 08 2014 04:41 GMT
#580
This should be pretty easy.
On January 08 2014 13:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon show me thrawn's contributions to scumhunting.

You have two votes on you, that does not mean there is a "gun on your throat". There is ~24h left on D1.
Can you just back up your statement and show thrawn's contributions to scumhunting.
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