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ok I remember
>>>>rayn if i told you i have a valid reason to believe you're scum, what do you think it is?
I don't remember what my read on you was when I asked this but a scumread isn't why I asked. I "was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself." (now I know all this makes me look like a moron but that is a consequence of playing stoned) I was baiting you in the most obvious way ever. You gave the answer that doesn't really help me figure out your alignment. At that point my thought process was like "ah fuck it" and then came the "0 reads" comment. Maybe there was some exaggeration on how few reads I suddenly had but I wouldn't be able to tell you.
Actually I've already explained this to you but I think you refused to believe that I am dumb enough to type this:
"I was hoping that you would tell me why you're scum because i'm too lazy to make the case myself."
We should get over this ASAP because I think it's gonna make for a pretty tedious read. Either decide I'm scummy for it or drop it because the above is the best explanation I care to give.
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Thrawn I believe you never responded to my question of you, being why exactly you felt the need to question my call-out of your vote-bait. You still haven't explained any of it, only dodged me when I ask you despite me answering every question you've asked of me.
I am not impressed.
Rayn why should we vote thrawn over yamato?
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So did you think i - as scum - would be stupid enough to give away my alignment by being giving you an idiotic answer to a stupid question?
Like, as town, you do stuff that helps you figuring out other people's alignments. Therefore you don't ask questions that can have null-answers, or at least questions where the answer is expected to be null by default.
As scum, you want to look like you are doing that but you actually are not because you don't want to "confirm" townies to you or other townies as in the end that gives yourself away.
To me that looks like you were doing stuff that looks like you were doing stuff but that didn't have any intention behind it, which makes it far more likely to come from mafia.
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On January 08 2014 13:03 yamato77 wrote:
We're not lynching me.
....because.......?
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On January 08 2014 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn why should we vote thrawn over yamato?
I dunno if you are reading closely but i think i have explained why i think yamato is town.
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On January 08 2014 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Thrawn I believe you never responded to my question of you, being why exactly you felt the need to question my call-out of your vote-bait. You still haven't explained any of it, only dodged me when I ask you despite me answering every question you've asked of me.
I am not impressed.
Rayn why should we vote thrawn over yamato?
I didn't respond because I didn't feel the need to question you further. Kinda rude I know, but I'm not dodging.
I was trying to figure out what you were doing? I couldn't tell if you thought I was scum or if you were critiquing my play. If you're just critiquing play then honestly I still don't *actually* understand your motivation for those posts (in the sense of "does this post help town?"). But I don't think only scum will give advice so it's a non issue.
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On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though.
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On January 08 2014 13:05 WaveofShadow wrote:....because.......?
You'll see.
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On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn why should we vote thrawn over yamato? I dunno if you are reading closely but i think i have explained why i think yamato is town.
That was yesterday, wasn't it?
On January 07 2014 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Not really.  He didn't say "hi" to the thread. That's like a scumclaim. j/k, i dunno about JAT. Actually no, i think yamato is town. There is some sort of a process going on in his head on his read on me. When he is scum there is no process, he just posts some stuff and tryhard reads or does not post anything.Dunno about bugs either, have never played with him. I have some super secret scumreads but i am waiting for all people to post.
Aside from the tryhard reads part I don't really see anything that doesn't fit with your idea of a scum yamato. Hell even then, can you outline exactly what sort of 'process' yamato has going on? I don't see it.
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On January 08 2014 13:10 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 13:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 08 2014 13:03 yamato77 wrote:
We're not lynching me. ....because.......? You'll see.
Alrighty I look forward to it but the vote (probably?) stays until that point. You understand, of course.
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yamato could you please play the game. You're so good as town when you want to participate and i would love some help from you in figuring out this game.
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On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though.
And I'm not sure I necessarily agree with the 'dumb' part, but I certainly have enjoyed WBG's play thus far. It's pretty damn refreshing. Bugs you need to get more of the players from when you used to play back into it.
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On January 08 2014 13:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato could you please play the game. You're so good as town when you want to participate and i would love some help from you in figuring out this game.
I will play tonight.
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On January 08 2014 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 08 2014 13:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn why should we vote thrawn over yamato? I dunno if you are reading closely but i think i have explained why i think yamato is town. That was yesterday, wasn't it? Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Not really. He didn't say "hi" to the thread. That's like a scumclaim. j/k, i dunno about JAT. Actually no, i think yamato is town. There is some sort of a process going on in his head on his read on me. When he is scum there is no process, he just posts some stuff and tryhard reads or does not post anything.Dunno about bugs either, have never played with him. I have some super secret scumreads but i am waiting for all people to post. Aside from the tryhard reads part I don't really see anything that doesn't fit with your idea of a scum yamato. Hell even then, can you outline exactly what sort of 'process' yamato has going on? I don't see it.
iamp asked me about that earlier and i answered him already.
I can't explain it better than i did to him because i don't know exactly what yamato is doing.
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On January 08 2014 13:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So did you think i - as scum - would be stupid enough to give away my alignment by being giving you an idiotic answer to a stupid question?
Like, as town, you do stuff that helps you figuring out other people's alignments. Therefore you don't ask questions that can have null-answers, or at least questions where the answer is expected to be null by default.
As scum, you want to look like you are doing that but you actually are not because you don't want to "confirm" townies to you or other townies as in the end that gives yourself away.
To me that looks like you were doing stuff that looks like you were doing stuff but that didn't have any intention behind it, which makes it far more likely to come from mafia.
I tried to be as self deprecating as possible in my response but you still need to realize what "smoking" for me means. I hate it when people list off how much they smoke and etc but I need to actually tell you for you to understand. Right now I currently have 4 strains of bud, hash, and hash oil at my disposal and I usually use some of everything. This week I've been using all of those things in multiple ways multiple times a day.
sorry for being a tool right there but rayn needs to understand
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thrawn:
Well then you should not post when you are under influence. I stopped posting drunk when i realized that's a fucking terrible idea. yamato even asked you to stop posting last night when you told us you are stoned.
WoS:
I try to elaborate as well as i can onto yamato. What yamato does as mafia is two things. He does not play for an all game plan. He plays for (1) survival, usually lurks, and (2) fuels arguments between townies. 1 and 2 are important, usually lurking is something that's not so important as he is able to change that if he wants to.
1) This can be seen in GoT, where i played scum with him. We had a game plan from the beginning but yamato's mindset was pretty much "i won't get lynched on D1". I don't remember he was doing much else than trying to survive D2.
2) This can be seen from 4 Persona, where yamato's pure purpose was to fuel me vs you argument until it ended up in a townie lynch. After that he discredited me for all D2, but when i basically solved the game on N2 he had no other option than to night kill me, even though i lynched a cop on D1 and had a red check on me. That's how "confident" yamato feels his scumplay is.
What he has done in this game is neither of those things.
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Stop stop stop stop stop Rayn and Thrawn.
Thrawn - lynching Rayn D1 is a bad idea. If Rayn is town, he is going to be a great asset to us going forward. He should be a policy lynch if he lasts longer than N2.
Rayn - you need to stop OMGUSing and overreacting when people vote for you. This debate isn't going to help anyone. This is exactly what derailed the game in BttB.
I'm begging for you to please drop this silly argument and resume it D2 or D3. We don't need this right now. Let's focus on actual scummy people like WBG, Yamato, and the inactives (in my opinion, CC, Yamato, Artanis (to an extent), Kush (to an extent, and mkfuba).
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Corazon you don't seem to know what OMGUS means because what i am doing is nowhere near OMGUSing.
Instead of making crappy arguments could you comment on the case?
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On January 08 2014 13:25 Corazon wrote:
Stop stop stop stop stop Rayn and Thrawn.
Thrawn - lynching Rayn D1 is a bad idea. If Rayn is town, he is going to be a great asset to us going forward. He should be a policy lynch if he lasts longer than N2.
Rayn - you need to stop OMGUSing and overreacting when people vote for you. This debate isn't going to help anyone. This is exactly what derailed the game in BttB.
I'm begging for you to please drop this silly argument and resume it D2 or D3. We don't need this right now. Let's focus on actual scummy people like WBG, Yamato, and the inactives (in my opinion, CC, Yamato, Artanis (to an extent), Kush (to an extent, and mkfuba).
So....2/3 of the game?
Ugh I really don't like this post Cora.
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