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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 23:50 GMT
#412
On January 08 2014 08:39 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 08:22 kushm4sta wrote:

plus you are talking way too much. being really unpleasant and annoying. i want you to die day


sorry if this is inappropriately insultative but it just pisses me off when people want to kill me before ive even done anything


cool, you're not any different.

Which is not a good thing, btw.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 23:52 GMT
#413
I would have assumed that in 9 months you would have learned at least a bit how to play but apparently that's not possible for someone of your calibre
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 23:53 GMT
#415
On January 08 2014 08:52 kushm4sta wrote:
well wbg have you considered the possibility that i may be scum? seems like you haven't/.


so you're scum, in addition to being useless?

Thanks bro.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 23:56 GMT
#419
I could quote every post of yours and then ask you the same thing.

In fact, I'm going to do that.

On January 08 2014 08:16 kushm4sta wrote:
so whos scummy


why post this honestly

On January 08 2014 08:20 kushm4sta wrote:
hmm no vote thread. anyone know what page the last votecount is on?


why post this honestly

On January 08 2014 08:22 kushm4sta wrote:
lol why do you want to kill me before i even said a word wbg? you yourself have missed d1 before. metahypocracy.

plus you are talking way too much. being really unpleasant and annoying. i want you to die day

##vote wbg


why post this honestly

On January 08 2014 08:24 kushm4sta wrote:
oh i'd also kill gumshoe btw. didn't like he early game.


why post this honestly

On January 08 2014 08:26 kushm4sta wrote:
@jat im really not afraid of dying so don't threaten me.

also I find it scummy how WGB is making such a fucking big deal of somethign as simple as someone who hasn't talked yet.
It's called REAL LIFE maybe you've experienced before or at least heard of it?


why post this honestly

On January 08 2014 08:39 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 08:22 kushm4sta wrote:

plus you are talking way too much. being really unpleasant and annoying. i want you to die day


sorry if this is inappropriately insultative but it just pisses me off when people want to kill me before ive even done anything


why post this honestly

On January 08 2014 08:52 kushm4sta wrote:
well wbg have you considered the possibility that i may be scum? seems like you haven't/.


why post this honestly

On January 08 2014 08:53 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 08:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
I would have assumed that in 9 months you would have learned at least a bit how to play but apparently that's not possible for someone of your calibre


why post this honestly


why post this honestly

On January 08 2014 08:53 kushm4sta wrote:
when i have time to play properly I do. when I dont, i play like this. deal with it


then don't sign up for games, you fuck.

Jesus.

Your play is fucking cancerous.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 07 2014 23:58 GMT
#420
On January 08 2014 08:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 08:22 justanothertownie wrote:
Are you going to tell me why you asked me about my opinion about those 2 now bugs? Or at least your opinion on them? Anything?



I'll get to it when I'm done raging at this asshole.

Hopefully he gets modkilled or replaced, because it's honestly disgraceful to the community that people who don't give a shit about the quality of play are allowed to do this every fucking game.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:11 GMT
#423
@justanothertownie

I asked about yamato because it's worrisome that he's put so little effort into playing so far. From what I remember about his play, he tends to at least care as town. He's probably decent enough as a player to slip by as scum without taking too much suspicion. In fact I think I recall someone linking a game of his (the hydra one) in which I read his filter and I probably would not have been able to tell he was scum without really thinking hard about his posts in context. Often times it's not possible to focus so hard on one player unless you already have an inkling about them (this happens all the time in my experience, no one catches all the scum in a game unless they are really good and the scum are also at least on some level bad, because no one is really able to piece together everything all at once in a game of limited information) However, in skimming that game I see a lot of similarities in attitude here.His posts are mostly one liners and don't really qualify much of anything at all, and he hasn't cared to even attempt a stance yet. It is early in the game and there are certain things he's said that could be interpreted as town tells, which is why I want some more opinions on him rather than creating an echo-chamber (which unfortunately I think is probably inevitable now)

As for WoS I wanted to see your opinion on him as he specifically targetted you and I also want to see what he's going to do. My opinion on him is not really full fledged yet and I want to see if he does what I think he's gonna do. I'll explain that later since time needs to pass before it is relevant.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:13 GMT
#424
On January 08 2014 09:04 justanothertownie wrote:
You should really calm down. I don't know if you noticed it but have a look at the new moderation and behaviour part of the op you aren't doing your team (which ever it is) a favor by risking moderation like that.


I don't actually care.

I actually regret signing up, particularly if kush is town (which he probably is). I stayed away for a long time from the forum because I didn't have the time to play and I was tired of other people ruining games by signing up and doing jack shit all. I remember clearly he was one of them. It's pretty apparent his playstyle has not changed one bit.



wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:14 GMT
#425
On January 08 2014 09:06 kushm4sta wrote:
k now this is starting to get fun for me because apparently im pissing you off.

i posted "so whos scummy" because i was curious about who was scummy obviously. in fact all of my posts had a reason.
I was telling you my thoughts about the game. If you dont think they are sufficient then say that, but there is no excuse to call me a fuck, to call me cancerous. sir that play is illegal and it would bring me great pleasure if you were modkilled.


good, then I will be modconfirmed town.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:14 GMT
#427
I also wouldn't have to play the game with you anymore, which would please me.

I probably would not come back to play for an even longer time.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:19 GMT
#430
On January 08 2014 09:17 kushm4sta wrote:
why am i probably town WBG?


3/13 players are scum.

There are 4 players in the thread posting things.

Even you can't be this dumb.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:22 GMT
#432
Cora is also clearly actively lurking.

If it wasn't apparent before it should be now.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:23 GMT
#433
Because note, he was in the thread before JAT and I were talking, and he was around during that time as well (he posted elsewhere on the forum during the same time)

He only enters now when he finds it opportune to attack me (after someone else already has done so)
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:23 GMT
#434
whoops

##unvote

##vote Corazon
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:32 GMT
#437
On January 08 2014 09:22 Corazon wrote:
WBG:

-asks me to be productive and post when i was being way more productive than him


1. Not a scumtell.
2. (not so?) Subtle way of saying "I'm town"

On January 08 2014 09:22 Corazon wrote:
-refuses to share his reads


Obviously untrue for anyone actually reading the thread...which makes his last comment really ironic.

On January 08 2014 09:22 Corazon wrote:
-starts having a back and forth war with JAT for no reason


Not a scumtell, inaccurate.

On January 08 2014 09:22 Corazon wrote:
-votes for kush then calls him town


I don't even know why I'm responding to this shit

On January 08 2014 09:22 Corazon wrote:
This guy scum.


Ok bro.

I'm gonna go lurk for the next 8 hours cause I need some alcohol to deal with this.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:32 GMT
#438
On January 08 2014 09:27 Corazon wrote:
It's hard to talk to you, WBG. You act like a giant dickwad when some disagrees with you.


No.

I acted like a dickwad to both you and JAT because you're both proving you can't fucking read.

in your case it's probably because you're scum.

Kush deserves mountains of shit for being a completely worthless player.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:35 GMT
#440
ffs kush is in two games for now.

His complaint is that I've never heard of RL. My complaint is, don't fucking sign up for two games (or any at all) if you're going to, to quote him, "play like this."

It's not our job to just "deal with it" and it's sad that the community does not do something to discourage it.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 00:51 GMT
#446
On January 08 2014 09:35 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 04:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
There are certain questions that, if answered, completely defeat the purpose of particular plays.

If you want to figure out my alignment for yourself it's probably a better idea to give me something better to work with. Why don't you comment on the game, or try to have a different conversation with me? If I can get some sort of insight into your current thoughts, e.g. what players you are currently looking at-you don't even have to particularly elucidate your reads-or, say, things you are worried about, or players you think are playing in a manner inconsistent to their norm, then I can have a fruitful conversation with you that can be alignment-enlightening in multiple ways.


"I don't want to share any information without you sharing some first, even though you have already shared a page worth of filter"

That's pretty scummy bro. You're trying to put the impetus on me to share (which I already had done) to give yourself an excuse for not having read the thread and to not share your opinions.

A town player would be proactive and try to share their thoughts without going "you first". That's why this makes you scum.


I've done this MULTIPLE times as town. In fact, I learned it from Foolishness. Sadly I don't have the self control not to post my opinion. It would have been a better idea on my part to just let things happen for another 12 hours before posting at all and just eat the flak for lurking later. That's what better players than me do and I am currently regretting not doing it. My style is to get people to contribute early because I think it's critical for town to be active early. Sadly if you're the only one doing it there's no point in it, really.

Anyway, to prove that I think seeding your reads into the thread is a really stupid way to play:

On May 22 2012 05:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
yo stop seeding the thread with all your reads, particularly town reads. It doesn't accomplish anything and it can pigeonhole people, as often times reads are wrong.


All my early votes in games are basically reasoned-often I just hide things and leave things on a need-to-know basis. That's just how I play. In fact, I specifically recall that Ver's guide talks about leaving things on a need-to-know basis. It's something I tend to break after a while because I can't help it, but I'm conscious of it.

On December 10 2012 12:47 wherebugsgo wrote:
alrighty.

I've concluded from the current events that there's an 80% preliminary chance that Palmar is scum.

Therefore I'm voting him, at least until he comes back and proves me otherwise.

##unvote
##vote Palmar


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&user=wherebugsgo&view=all

On December 10 2012 16:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
How many of them are there?

How many scum are probably in this game?

What did I say was my certainty on Palmar being scum?

Don't force me to treat you like you're dumb.


On December 10 2012 23:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why would I comment on people I don't think are scum?

I don't understand this line of questioning.


On December 01 2012 15:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
it's always amusing when on day 1, every time I roll town, I get the same shit for the same stupid reasons. There is a pattern to how I play town: I don't say anything useful for almost all of day 1 because on day 1 I like to observe. That's why my opening votes are usually intended to create reactions, and while they almost always are intentional and on pseudo-scum reads when I post them, my day 1 reads usually change very very quickly.

It's also amusing that every time I roll scum no one calls me scum and then I get shot by some faggot 3rd party or a vigi who is scared of my scum play.


On December 02 2012 05:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
holy fucking shit I can't tell who's just bad and who's scum anymore


On November 30 2012 12:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
There's a stark difference between uselessness due to absence and uselessness due to a deliberate lack of contribution.

And marv, I'm not convinced he's scum. Yet.


And to elucidate why I quoted the last one:

That's why active lurkers are scummy.


wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 01:03 GMT
#448
so apparently I have deliberately not said anything at all.

And Corazon says I don't read.

wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 01:12 GMT
#453
On January 08 2014 10:04 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2014 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
so apparently I have deliberately not said anything at all.

And Corazon says I don't read.


Stop trying to twist the facts. I'm talking about when you made the post saying you required contribution from me before you contributed.


And you still haven't.

Everything you have said in the past page is blatantly false. So blatant, in fact, that I don't even have to expend that much effort to show it.

On January 08 2014 10:04 kushm4sta wrote:
wbg I don't think im understanding your townread on me. because im talking right now that makes me town?? i have to talk sometime even if im scum, dont i?

also if ive done enough for you to townread me then haven't i dont my work for the day pretty much.. if all the town gave you townreads then it would be easy to find scum.

and yes i have overextended myself by mistake. i wasn't busy now I am. im sorry.


It's more of the fact that I don't think scum would be that reactive to a single vote. I mean, it's certainly possible. I haven't seen you play scum afaik. It's just not likely at this point in time, and it really never was (but again, I didn't disclose that)

Anyway, how could I think you are scum before you entered the thread? It was pretty patently obvious to anyone reading my posts that my intention was to discourage lurking. It's actually really sad that I had to make that clear, because it pretty much defeated the purpose of what I was trying to do.

Also, the bolded is obviously not true at all. Even if I think you are town, others may not. In addition, if you just afk then I have to question whether I was right or not. Also, who's going to find scum? If every townie had your mentality then no one would ever find scum.

I'm really trying hard not to be abrasive here but this is not rocket science and I have no idea why I am even bothering to explain this. This is very basic newbie guide stuff.

In all honesty I should just link to the newbie guide or quote it any time someone asks something like this from now on.


wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 08 2014 01:15 GMT
#456
On January 08 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:
well im gonna say bugs is town considering he basically for the last few pages has told everyone to look at me and seems to care way to much if he were scum. Plus he did that thing were he says im picking up my ball and going home and decides to post anyways. That's a townie thing to do in my view as scum are more apt to try to have an excuse to leave the thread.

that said chill out bugs lets catch scum

but ill even do the work for you because yamato is scum. If you look at his filter there is nothing of value come join me on the wagon of justice

## Vote Yamato


I always play my games through

And I also have my own heaping doses of rage. Mostly cause I can't stand when people do really obviously dumb things.

Have you looked at WoS or Cora at all? What makes yamato a better lynch or them a worse lynch?

have you played with Corazon at all recently? What can you say about his play/what should be expected?
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