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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 14:14:38
January 09 2014 14:14 GMT
#261
Which hero is recommended for arena play?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 09 2014 14:18 GMT
#262
they all seem to be viable. some matchups are bad due to the hero-powers you play against, but the game is far more dependent on your draft than your hero selection.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 09 2014 14:19 GMT
#263
Yeah but isn;t card selection at least partially based on class? So is one champs card pool better?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 09 2014 14:41 GMT
#264
not really no, they all have their own flavor or wahtever but its well balanced imo
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 09 2014 14:41 GMT
#265
On January 09 2014 23:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
not really no, they all have their own flavor or wahtever but its well balanced imo


OK.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 09 2014 15:38 GMT
#266
http://www.arenamastery.com/sitewide.php
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
January 09 2014 15:53 GMT
#267
So hearthstone seems cool but what I don't get is why it has massive stream viewers - it seems like a strictly worse "game" (in terms of things like gameplay variety, complexity, etc) than mtg except for the cost and play model. These last two explain why it's more popular to play (I've never played mtgo, maybe it sucks too) but they don't explain the spectator appeal given that mtg doesn't have nearly the twitch/stream presence that hearthstone does.

Am I wrong about the gameplay merits of hearthstone vs mtg? Has mtg also been this popular? Or are all the stream viewers actually hearthstone players as well?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 09 2014 15:54 GMT
#268
Kripp has an huge followship that views any game he plays.
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
January 09 2014 15:56 GMT
#269
On January 10 2014 00:53 strongandbig wrote:
So hearthstone seems cool but what I don't get is why it has massive stream viewers - it seems like a strictly worse "game" (in terms of things like gameplay variety, complexity, etc) than mtg except for the cost and play model. These last two explain why it's more popular to play (I've never played mtgo, maybe it sucks too) but they don't explain the spectator appeal given that mtg doesn't have nearly the twitch/stream presence that hearthstone does.

Am I wrong about the gameplay merits of hearthstone vs mtg? Has mtg also been this popular? Or are all the stream viewers actually hearthstone players as well?

well the game is still beta so im sure at the very least there are going to be a lot more cards and they will probally add a mechanic or 2.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 09 2014 16:02 GMT
#270
On January 10 2014 00:53 strongandbig wrote:
So hearthstone seems cool but what I don't get is why it has massive stream viewers - it seems like a strictly worse "game" (in terms of things like gameplay variety, complexity, etc) than mtg except for the cost and play model. These last two explain why it's more popular to play (I've never played mtgo, maybe it sucks too) but they don't explain the spectator appeal given that mtg doesn't have nearly the twitch/stream presence that hearthstone does.

Am I wrong about the gameplay merits of hearthstone vs mtg? Has mtg also been this popular? Or are all the stream viewers actually hearthstone players as well?

I would be willing to believe that alot of players want beta keys, which was a big draw for viewers at first, and the blizzard name is good at drawing people in as well. Gameplay wise I'd say mtg is far more involved, so its harder for new people to get into the game whereas hearthstone is pretty straightforward
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
January 09 2014 16:05 GMT
#271
Hearthstone is strictly worse but has the benefit of being a video game rather than an in-person game.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 09 2014 16:06 GMT
#272
On January 10 2014 01:05 Blazinghand wrote:
Hearthstone is strictly worse but has the benefit of being a video game rather than an in-person game.

well snb was trying to compare mtg:o to hearthstone and why hs has so many more viewers (as far as twitch numbers go). I think it comes down to hype and stream personalities
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 09 2014 16:09 GMT
#273
On January 10 2014 00:53 strongandbig wrote:
So hearthstone seems cool but what I don't get is why it has massive stream viewers - it seems like a strictly worse "game" (in terms of things like gameplay variety, complexity, etc) than mtg except for the cost and play model. These last two explain why it's more popular to play (I've never played mtgo, maybe it sucks too) but they don't explain the spectator appeal given that mtg doesn't have nearly the twitch/stream presence that hearthstone does.

Am I wrong about the gameplay merits of hearthstone vs mtg? Has mtg also been this popular? Or are all the stream viewers actually hearthstone players as well?


I just quit magic a few months ago. And I can say that it is almost certainly to do with cost. The game is better/more complex but is also incredibly expensive.

For example If you wanted to play a control deck in the current standard meta game you needed 4 copies of sphinxes revelation which is $120 dollars. Mana base was at least 200 dollars add in other cards and you are looking at 600 Plus dollars for a competitive deck on MTGO.

Also you are paying all this money for cards and the client is buggy and slow.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 16:11:19
January 09 2014 16:10 GMT
#274
HS is kinda a shit game to watch on stream tbh*. I tried watching a stream of it and found it super dupes boring. Maybe I just don't have a good taste for this kind of thing but watching some guy sit there and think for 30 seconds what attack he's going to make is profoundly uninteresting to me.

*tbh = to blazinghand
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 09 2014 21:56 GMT
#275
On January 10 2014 01:10 Blazinghand wrote:
HS is kinda a shit game to watch on stream tbh*. I tried watching a stream of it and found it super dupes boring. Maybe I just don't have a good taste for this kind of thing but watching some guy sit there and think for 30 seconds what attack he's going to make is profoundly uninteresting to me.

*tbh = to blazinghand

It's a good thing to watch if you're looking to fall asleep though! (I often watch streams before bed to get tired )
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
January 11 2014 21:36 GMT
#276
Upcoming Movie Night!
Sunday, Jan 12 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
lock stock and two smoking barrels

I won't be able to make it-- but have fun!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
January 12 2014 03:59 GMT
#277
is that time right? i see 4am EST. regardless i won't be able to make it this week either D:
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
January 12 2014 05:02 GMT
#278
Thanks Greymist! was heaps of fun.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 12 2014 05:04 GMT
#279
Speaking of Greymist, AGDQ is running Chrono Trigger right now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
January 12 2014 05:33 GMT
#280
You know im tuning in
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