II Titanic Mini Mafia

On November 27 2013 08:44 LSB wrote:
/in

On December 08 2013 10:40 Promethelax wrote:


I have no idea what any of this means.

On December 10 2013 07:04 Alakaslam wrote:

Gladly oblige.

Quick to hop on someone really really unreasonably early and with not the greatest logic in the world?

My behavior right off is worse but he votes cora

I am so bad I am useful to scum in the lategame, so he would rather mislynch cora who though not perfect, is definitely better at being town than me.

Probably not exactly your point but I think you are also seeing the quick to lynch attitude. And the slightly unreasonable aggressiveness.

On December 10 2013 06:43 LSB wrote:
##Vote: purpletrator
Scum are mafia pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs are players pretending to be someone else.
Smurfs = Mafia.
Flawless mafia. Lynch all Smurfs

On December 10 2013 07:17 LSB wrote:
I think we need to calm down. My "townie on townie day 1 shitstorm" sense is tingling.

That speaking, oddly enough it does encourage a Xatalos lynch

On December 10 2013 07:21 LSB wrote:

So far I think I am townie, I haven't really thought past that. I just don't think this day 1 attitude is gonna be very productive.

The whole entire Xatalos suspicion does require a meta read on Xatalos to see if he is brilliant enough to try for the plan on day 1, or does he just play like this.

On December 10 2013 07:29 LSB wrote:
Btw for those of you who claim that every game I don't have a plan in I'm a scum, here's a plan

Notice this post

Notice the lack of millers. This setup is vulnerable to the follow the DT plan where the DT claims and the medics heal him every night.

Since flips are open, we just need to make sure we don't accidentally lynch our DT and medic and hypothetically speaking we will have a massive advantage later on in this game where follow the DT shines.

Btw DT/Medic plz don't claim. Unless you are about to be lynched.

Jim Raynor (Roleblocker)

-You're not a Zerg, but you sure as hell hate the UED. Or actually you don't, but Kerrigan is a master at pussywhipping, so you just tag along with her shenanigans and think (because you're told to) you hate the UED.

Once per night you can silence a player since you're human looking enough to convince them to put the gun/medicgun/magnifying glass down.

On December 10 2013 07:36 LSB wrote:

In my opinion natural scum play is to stay low, especially on day 1, the town tends to self destruct anyways day 1. This whole entire "starting shit" strat is actually pretty good, even though it is counterintuitive to the idea of trying to not draw attention. Thus I assumed this strat is not very obvious, especially since I personally never considered it.

This is all pure speculation. Something more grounded is that Xatalos is definably acting very different from before, and in my eyes less of a townie

On December 10 2013 09:42 sidesprang wrote:
Ok, so a lot of things going on. I agree we should not let lurkers stay silent, and should poke anyone that stays silent for to long. But there is a lot of value in not spamming down the thread if you are town, that will only make the scummy post harder to see. I'm mainly looking at you Xatalos, as you are on your third page in filter with like half of the post being oneliners. Even if town you will be detrimental to the town if you keep this up! There are others aswell, just used you as an example.


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About Cora there are a few things I did not like and caught my eye. His opening post is not good, and if he's mafia hes basically just buying himself an excuse to lurk for day 1 and then come out day 2 and bring chaos onto the town.

He also deflected a lot in his defence and basically just said "look at X he's scummier than me".

And lastly he asked for people to vote for him if they found him scummy, which is very Anti-Town.


I do not feel cora is mafia yet at least, but definetly worth to look at.


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@Kish, can anyone that have played with him earlier say something about how he plays. He is deffo playing the most anti town atm, but he's also doing it on purpose which is frustrating.

On December 10 2013 10:10 Holyflare wrote:



I really really do not like this post as an entry post:

A) Sheeps everthing I have mentioned on Cora.
B) Uses a big chunk of his entry post saying why cora is displaying mafia associated traits but won't vote him yet?
C) Mentions Xatalos in a completely non-inquisitive manner, no justification on a read based on Xan's posts or anything.


Sidesprang, what do you think of Xatalos so far? He has been pressured quite hard this game, were his responses more town alignment indicative to you?

On December 10 2013 07:33 purpletrator wrote:

You mean to tell me you have no concern over the erroneous logic LSB used to vote me? You honestly think my response is worse than "smurfs=mafia"?
To actually answer your question, I'm wondering why LSB is wasting my time and wanted to see if he's actually trying to get a response or just trolling. When he ignored my response I chalked it up to 'just trolling'. Then you called me out, he noticed my response and now wants to fish for my identity. Now it looks scummy.

It was a hypothetical. I'm not revealing my identity. Good to know you dont give a shit about the lynch.

##Vote: LSB

On December 10 2013 08:55 purpletrator wrote:

i went to look at LSB's old games, only actually looked at PYP which is still ongoing and decided I'd seen enough to unvote him.

On December 11 2013 08:50 LSB wrote:
Can someone who is more familiar with Alakaslam explain his relation to Chezinu? Or provide me a frame of reference for his play / meta call?

On December 11 2013 08:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Spaghetticus...

Your handle, coupled with your posts this time about, remind me of the stuff I would gladly remove from my freezer, before I discovered I was a celiac...

I never liked my food frozen, however. See, I was loth to use a microwave for this reason.

Time... To burn. Fires of the Titanic, unite!


##Vote: Spaghetticus

On December 11 2013 09:06 LSB wrote:
Probably I should include a reasoning:
Should Alakaslam continue with his play it will be incredibly difficult to get a correct read from Alakaslam or any player he 'pressures'. I don't want to waste a DT check on him, nor do I want to have him at LYLO.

I am of the belief that unless a seriously good candidate comes up, the day one lynch is probably the best time to get rid of lurkers/noncontributors.

On December 11 2013 10:36 VayneAuthority wrote:


depends on how you look at it.

He reverted out of it once he picked up 2 quick votes and people were talking about maybe voting for him. When everything breezed over he went back to trolling. It can be twisted anyway you want it to be. From the story I just told, that's survival tactics.

On December 13 2013 06:19 LSB wrote:
Can the vig claim?

On December 13 2013 06:21 LSB wrote:

Oh I see
Well that solves the Corazon issue.
##Vote: Sidesprang

On December 14 2013 03:13 LSB wrote:
First off, why are we still discussing Corazon at this point? Until someone countercalims vig he is confirmed town.

I won't be on later tonight, but I will be on right now. But can people stop blaming me for not going after bad lynches? There is a reason why I don't want to lynch Corazon, VA (and to some degree spag).

On December 10 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

If purpletrator can reasonably explain what he is going to achieve with that post i'm going to unvote.
Now i gotta sleep! cya tomorrow.

Please don't be useless Alakaslam ok?

On December 10 2013 07:18 LSB wrote:
Missed this post


Ya, sure. Reveal please!

On December 12 2013 03:00 Corazon wrote:
To whomever asked: yes I have notes until page 21. I've been too busy to take notes since then. I will probably pick up with the notes starting D2. Do you want to see them? There are only 3 or so major points in them. One on Spag, one on purple, and one on Vayne

On December 10 2013 09:55 Corazon wrote:
I caught up to the thread and took notes. I must go for an hour and then I will be back with Xatalos case.

On December 12 2013 03:50 purpletrator wrote:

This is where I'm at right now.

On December 12 2013 03:39 Plutarch wrote:
I don't think Vsynr contradicting himself like that means he has to be scum. I think it is a null tell.

I was hoping some of those who had not commented yet on spag would step up in my absence, but that hasn't really happened.

I still think Spag is going to flip scum. And I am surprised that rayn unvoted to be honest.

When someone does nothing and does not even try to look for scum despite being active that person is likely to be scum. Even though spag says he always starts slow his previous two town games provide direct counter examples to this.

Then when up against it for the lynch he does not provide reads aside from calling kush town. I don't know about you guys but if I was getting lynched as town then I would be desperate to provide as much information to the thread as possible to work off after I flip.

Did this happen? no. He in fact provided zero info to the thread and then left as soon as thread sentiment changed.

Spag is Scum.

Please lynch spag.

On December 10 2013 13:19 Corazon wrote:

Please tell me where I explicitly said I was going to be "inactive"

On December 14 2013 03:38 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah, that has to be it. I can't comprehend LSB playing like this as town.

On December 14 2013 03:48 LSB wrote:
##Pushpost

Why you should vote purpletrator
Purpletrator really only has two important posts in his filter that means something. One is on me, the other is on Corazon.

1) Winner of the most rediculous reaction award.

In response to some spam purpletraitor suddenly pulls out a full blow case and goes all defensive. Someone is quite edgy and quick to try to convince everyone that he is town. Paranoia is a good indicator of mafia alignment to me

2) Corazon Lynch
This is probably the most arbitrary vote I have seen for quite a while.


He votes Corazon because he didn't take notes on Xata? I want you to take a step back and think about how ridiculous this is. Not only was there no mention about not taking notes on Xata, in addition if you were taking notes of the first few pages it would be impossible to ignore Xata.

This seems like a standardard bandwagon vote although not as explicitly bandwagony as

purpletrator demonstrates he is willing to lynch someone who is under heavy suspicion for little or no foresight. Compare this to his analysis here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436388&currentpage=57#1132 Purpletrator is not incapable of making good analysis.

##VOTE: purpletrator
BONUS: Something funny from the other smurf

And then suddenly a few posts later

LOL. Oh well, values were nice but once I am pissed lets throw them away

PS: If you go after sidesprang I'd be willing to bandwagon

On December 14 2013 03:51 LSB wrote:

WTF is this bullshit about "Top scumreads"?

There are people I think are scum, and there are people I think are town. And there are people I don't know.

I vote for scum and I don't vote for town

On December 14 2013 03:49 LSB wrote:

If JB flips scum I want you to post "LSB just played a PYP game where he literally fingered da mafia and until he got lynched by da mafia"

On December 14 2013 03:57 LSB wrote:

Lolol I know. That's why I prefer PM games. Much easier to get people to listen to you there

On December 13 2013 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
Cora just copied half the shit i wrote in my vote analysis post, claims I'm scum. I'm going to die tonight plu is ma fwend.

Lynch cora, artanis, xatalos, bum, grack most of those are scummy

On December 17 2013 03:57 LSB wrote:
Also, anyone have any idea why Kushmasta was killed? I don't think it is a coincidence that we got two medics blue sniped on us.

I'm just reading his filter and incredibly confused

On December 13 2013 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
Cora just copied half the shit i wrote in my vote analysis post, claims I'm scum. I'm going to die tonight plu is ma fwend.

Lynch cora, artanis, xatalos, bum, grack most of those are scummy

On December 10 2013 07:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I just skimmed through the filter he linked and I don't think it looks like the start of this game at all. He's far more aggressive here. What were you trying to say exactly with your initial post if you didn't mean to give anyone a town read but yourself? I'm confused. I don't think a plan other than "starting shit" is required for scum. That's always a good thing.

On December 15 2013 06:33 VayneAuthority wrote:


doesn't explain this




You preferred purple and saw that purple was about to be lynched, then in tandem with purple tried to last second kill me.

On December 17 2013 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
a last minute vote to a wagon that's not happening is opting out of the discourse.

On December 17 2013 09:49 LSB wrote:
@Blazing, I don't feel like repeating myself. I believe what you are trying to ask is "why aren't you playing like me?" or more indirectly I think you are trying to figure out "If I am just bandwagoning the major targets". My main answer is I am more interested in getting the people I think that are scum lynched. Thus my answer is yes. I will bandwagon the person who I feel is most likely to be lynch if that will get them lynched.



This is the full explanation

On December 18 2013 02:47 Plutarch wrote:


I do because he is lying about my alignment.

On December 18 2013 05:13 LSB wrote:
Plutarch = hapa?

On December 18 2013 13:27 Grackaroni wrote:
But if you really feel the need to prove yourself, tell me:

What VT would worry about me manipulating checks when I'm already set to vote you tomorrow regardless. It only matters who I check if I'm actually a cop and get confirmed by your flip.