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On January 17 2014 07:40 suki wrote:
The reason we (and by we it was probably mostly me who pushed it) lynched Jonny over Balla was because I was more scared of Jonny's analysis than Balla's.
Balla was throwing all sorts of pressure around, but he actually wasn't doing much analysis. If he pressured the wrong people I felt that would be in our benefit.
In hindsight I don't know if it was the right move.. Seeing town confused over the Jonny NK was fun though.
From my perspective the shot on JonnyLaw was very much the right choice, IMHO he was much closer to catching you at that stage.
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My coaching QT with Bumatlarge btw:
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/knfcKBg5R7AaV
I felt really bad about my d1 and d2 reads, but really good about my activity and obviously I shot a scum which is awesome. I guess i'm one of those slow starters  but throughout the rest of the game after I died my reads obviously got better since I pegged you guys right after suki made her "chyz is town" spiel. Town was really in a bad shape after I died, I'm wondering if I was a little too active and demotivated a lot of them? Unfortunately we let them lurk after I died, which just made it so easy for THEM to push the lurkers. Day_walker was a REALLY REALLY easy lynch.
Sidesprang specifically you should have been able to see that Day_walker was not the right lynch, since your other choices for scum were on him.
Also I'm really surprised that we didn't switch off of OWB, that's something I felt I did really wrong and didn't defend him enough. It was clearly not the right lynch, along with dnyarri. But I didn't have the power to force a switch, not to mention the AFKness of the town at that point, but it wasn't obvious that it was a bad lynch until 1 or 2 hours to go till deadline.
Oh and another thing!!!! If you're confirmed town do not announce you're going to be gone for a few days, even though mafia already wanted to NK me based on their QT, it just made their choice SO easy. The easiest thing ever. Well chinstrap just said he would be afk for a few days so no reason to worry about him lets kill the other confirmed town. Gah.
Salty bout dat almost 3/3 wins T_T
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I think BigDad was a pretty clear scumplayer because he was constantly suspected during the game yet when push came to talk he never gathered a lot of votes. This should be a clear indication of his alignment imo.
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Balla: You were going to get hit on N2 regardless of chinstrap's activity  You were just playing too well. hahah
Oh man, our next game we should totally play together.. If we end up on the same team it will be rad.
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Also wow, Asuna tried to cop check me on N2?
Asuna that is sick. I wanna know what your thought process was there :D
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Also, a lot of the townies could be spotted by how they acted with the Innocent Child. I felt OWB should've been identified as town by how hard he went into Chinstrap. Scum will generally act passively towards a confirmed townie, because it's pretty scary. You know that everyone knows is town, so you tread very carefully. I'd call Day_Walker town based on the same principle; his interactions with chinstrap, and this conclusion:
On January 09 2014 01:49 Day_Walker wrote:*snip* And I guess I'll comment on my exchange with chinstrap: + Show Spoiler +
What a load of steaming shit. I can't have a constructive conversation with someone who just wants to wring their hands and cry scum while refusing to give substantive responses to my questions, and who is unable or unwilling to acknowledge the difference between me having reasons that he disagrees with and me having no reasons whatsoever. Such a fucking disappointment that this guy has to be our IC.
Scum is incredibly unlikely to interact with the IC like that, I feel.
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Blazinghand
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Oh yes, another thing I forgot from my list: the RB on Asuna on N1 was pretty good choice, and not just for the fact that it did hit a blue role (even though Asuna did not try to investigate anyone that night) but rather the reasoning for it was sound, Asuna did look like a blue by play style.
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On January 17 2014 07:42 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +He obviously refuses to get modkilled by continuing to play the game. That in itself is a scumtell, but whatever doesn't matter. This is not true. As either alignment, if you can not be replaced but are busy you play the best you can. Strategic modkills are explicitly disallowed in the rules.
Hey that was me! Mostly an emotional post tbh. I was annoyed at the level of activity from some players specifically. At that point i thought Dnyarri was scummy for his content but NOT scummy for the way the game was going so I was really in a tough spot with him, especially considering he hadn't stepped up his game yet (WHICH HE DID!). After d2 though Dnyarri was much better, just not enough to get over the hump. He was pretty clearly town though.
On January 17 2014 07:38 suki wrote:
I was really hoping I could fool the obsQT up until this final day. =]
Also I signed up for that shadow mafia thing cuz I saw you (Balla) and Jonny are in it.. But in the meantime are either of you playing in another game?
I'm just playing Voice mafia every once in a while, while waiting for the Shadow mafia game to get going ^_^. If there's another mini that pops up before the shadower game gets going (which won't be for a while) i'll join that so keep an eye out.
Otherwise definitely hop in voice! It's fun and not as stressful since we play smaller games that go a lot faster and often play silly setups!
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Disregarding everything else in the game, BigDad should have been lynched simply for his totally unnatural read(s) on dinyarri.
A townie simply does not look at dinyarri this way, the way the game went down.
Don't really know about anything else.
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On January 17 2014 07:51 marvellosity wrote:
Disregarding everything else in the game, BigDad should have been lynched simply for his totally unnatural read(s) on dinyarri.
A townie simply does not look at dinyarri this way, the way the game went down.
Don't really know about anything else.
Also how he interacted with his town reads! He consistently asked his town reads for confirmation on his cases instead of asking his case target stuff. Luckily, Suki did a good job deflecting the lynch off him many times ^_^
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I was honestly really really surprised nobody followed me on my case vs BigDad o_o
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I started both Day 2 and Day 3 with a bus on BigDad, but when nobody took the 'bait' I just went with a townie.
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@Balla : I don't think I could do voice mafia :> The only reason I can maintain my composure in these mafia games is because I have 2 hours to think on everything I say before I say it.
I'd be the most obvious scum in the world if I had to react to everything live.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
Thing is, whether bigdad should have been lynched or not, town was doomed because suki was in full control
noone to stand up to her :/
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Yeah, Suki played a great game. Definitely impressed by her game.
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On January 17 2014 07:56 suki wrote:
@Balla : I don't think I could do voice mafia :> The only reason I can maintain my composure in these mafia games is because I have 2 hours to think on everything I say before I say it.
I'd be the most obvious scum in the world if I had to react to everything live.
So am I!!! Just ask rayn lol... It's a good place to improve since it's so fast paced!
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OH AND KUSH IS SUCH A GOOD COACH! WOW!!!
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