Well played Suki, not sure I would have been able to read you had I not died... your n1 was really good though. After I died though I knew instantly after Chyz did his weird "roleclaim" play... you went along with it for some reason im surprised nobody caught that .

EDIT: Thanks a lot for hosting LoneMeow and also to the coaches! Onto the big leagues :D

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

January 16 2014 22:20 GMT

#1244

I'll probably never play forum mafia again, but it sure was a hell of a ride. These newbie games were fun, glad I at least got to experience it for several games.

BigDad

67 Posts

January 16 2014 22:22 GMT

#1245

Im so glad we roleblocked Asuna all game.

LoneMeow

Finland1396 Posts

January 16 2014 22:23 GMT

#1246

It should've been somewhat noticeable after suki voted with BigDad whom she had been calling top scum read all game (and was still calling a scum read), I think. Look at this post.

Also:

On January 14 2014 06:09 suki wrote:
Just popping in to say that if theChyz flips scum in an hour, and I'm pretty sure he will, then BigDad is definitely his scumbuddy.

With votes looking like this:
TheChyz (5): Asuna, dnyarri, BigDad, suki, sidesprang

It's not like town doesn't sometimes use broken logic, but...

BigDad

67 Posts

January 16 2014 22:25 GMT

#1247

Yeah I was hoping nobody would figure that out. I was playing loose and fast at this stage because nobody was active.

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 16 2014 22:26 GMT

#1248

I think town not contributing very much in the very end game made it a lot easier to pull off the win.

The dual vote on Day_Walker was risky and I was biting my nails hoping it would go through. If town was just a little bit more active I would have pushed a Big_Dad lynch today instead of rushing for the win.

BigDad

67 Posts

January 16 2014 22:27 GMT

#1249

Lol suki you were bussing me all game though

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 16 2014 22:29 GMT

#1250

Also yeah I didn't realize it in the game but jumping on theChyz was a bad move :d

My initial analysis of the roleclaim conversation was that theChyz was 'bad townie', but then I just went with the flow of the game and bandwagoned on theChyz.. In hindsight I probably didn't have to do that though.

BigDad

67 Posts

January 16 2014 22:32 GMT

#1251

Why was lynching theChyz a bad move?

Balla24

2322 Posts

January 16 2014 22:34 GMT

#1252

She said he was town because of his analysis and then went for it anyways.

EDIT: Not his analysis, HER analysis, called him his last play a bad town play.

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 16 2014 22:36 GMT

#1253

@BigDad:

On January 17 2014 07:16 Balla24 wrote:
After I died though I knew instantly after Chyz did his weird "roleclaim" play... you went along with it for some reason im surprised nobody caught that .

Basically this. Read my initial analysis on TheChyz here.

If I was town I probably wouldn't have gone into such detail.. well, maybe I would have. But basically that play is so bad to try to pull off as mafia that theChyz couldn't be mafia lol.

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 16 2014 22:36 GMT

#1254

And then my next post was a 180 degree flip and he's suddenly my top scum read lol

Umasi

United States1399 Posts

January 16 2014 22:37 GMT

#1255

Balla24 had well over a fourth of the game in his filter, town should have at least tried to match his effort as much as possible, and seeing him not die night one really confused me
that said, I didn't read the game carefully, I just helped lonemeow if he said he needed a votecount, so /shrug
suki seemed to play the game really well though

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 16 2014 22:38 GMT

#1256

I was really hoping I could fool the obsQT up until this final day. =]

Also I signed up for that shadow mafia thing cuz I saw you (Balla) and Jonny are in it.. But in the meantime are either of you playing in another game?

BigDad

67 Posts

January 16 2014 22:40 GMT

#1257

On January 17 2014 07:37 Umasi wrote:
Balla24 had well over a fourth of the game in his filter, town should have at least tried to match his effort as much as possible, and seeing him not die night one really confused me
that said, I didn't read the game carefully, I just helped lonemeow if he said he needed a votecount, so /shrug
suki seemed to play the game really well though

I seriously considered lynching him asap, but even though he was contributing a bunch he couldn't get heaps of traction with town.

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 16 2014 22:40 GMT

#1258

The reason we (and by we it was probably mostly me who pushed it) lynched Jonny over Balla was because I was more scared of Jonny's analysis than Balla's.

Balla was throwing all sorts of pressure around, but he actually wasn't doing much analysis. If he pressured the wrong people I felt that would be in our benefit.

In hindsight I don't know if it was the right move.. Seeing town confused over the Jonny NK was fun though.

suki

Canada1159 Posts

January 16 2014 22:40 GMT

#1259

EBWOP: and by lynched Jonny over Balla I mean shot Jonny over Balla.

LoneMeow

Finland1396 Posts

January 16 2014 22:42 GMT

#1260

A few disconnected thoughts, notes and comments on the game:

TheChyz's very weird broken setup speculation to force Asuna to claim was... Weird, and not very beneficial to town.

Asuna's claim was also somewhat bad, though, since there was no imminent threat of being lynched so no real need to claim.

NKs were pretty obvious choices, JonnyLaw was very much going in the right direction on D1 as was Balla24 on D2 and so.

Good call on the vigi shot by Balla24.

Asuna had a very good cop check on N2 (on suki), sadly it was blocked. If that had gone through it could've changed the game entirely.

chinstrap's warning instead of modkill was on a technicality (he had a post inside that day, barely, so by the guidelines I had set before game started he was only warned for not voting).

Many players didn't utilise their coaches very much or at all - you really should, when you have the chance. Trust me, I regret not having done that.

He obviously refuses to get modkilled by continuing to play the game. That in itself is a scumtell, but whatever doesn't matter.

This is not true. As either alignment, if you can not be replaced but are busy you play the best you can. Strategic modkills are explicitly disallowed in the rules.