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LoneMeow Finland1396 Posts January 10 2014 21:58 GMT #1081 Day 2 vote count: onlywonderboy (6): TheChyz, chinstrap, suki, Balla24, Day_Walker, dnyarri, Asuna, TheChyz Asuna (0): TheChyz, TheChyz Day_Walker (1): onlywonderboy dnyarri (2): chinstrap, Balla24, BigDad, sidesprang, TheChyz, suki, Day_Walker BigDad (1): Balla24 Currently, onlywonderboy is set to be lynched. Deadline is Friday, Jan 10 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! If there are errors, please let us know.

suki Canada1159 Posts January 10 2014 21:58 GMT #1082 I made several cases on Bigdad in both Day 1 and 2, and Balla I think also has posted some analysis. I think he's been given an easy pass this game just because a few people thought he was townie before the first lynch happened.

Balla24 2322 Posts January 10 2014 21:59 GMT #1083 OWB flipping is going to be good for us regardless.

Balla24 2322 Posts January 10 2014 22:00 GMT #1084 We gain a lot of info here.

TheChyz Canada238 Posts January 10 2014 22:00 GMT #1085 not good if town, just not as bad as others

LoneMeow Finland1396 Posts January 10 2014 22:01 GMT #1086 Night 2 Palace Square was filled with people. After last night, it was clear to everyone that there were White spies among the residents of Petrograd. Now the crowd was intent on figuring out who they were so they could be dealt with. In the discussion, the name of dnyarri was frequently associated with suspicious activity and the crowd seemed to agree that he was a very shady person, however there were those who brought up the name of onlywonderboy and argued that he was, in fact, even more suspicious. The matter was discussed and it was decided that a vote should be taken to see which one most would agree was more likely a spy. The result was that onlywonderboy was to be executed as an enemy of the people. As onlywonderboy lay dying on the ground, from his pocket fell the membership card of the Bolshevik party. onlywonderboy the Bolshevik Revolutionary (Vanilla Townie) has been lynched! Final vote count: onlywonderboy (6): TheChyz, chinstrap, suki, Balla24, Day_Walker, dnyarri, Asuna, TheChyz Asuna (0): TheChyz, TheChyz Day_Walker (1): onlywonderboy dnyarri (2): chinstrap, Balla24, BigDad, sidesprang, TheChyz, suki, Day_Walker BigDad (1): Balla24 The night ends Saturday, Jan 11 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Remember to send your night actions to all hosts. That means LoneMeow, Umasi and Bereft.

Balla24 2322 Posts January 10 2014 22:03 GMT #1087 Day 3 is going to be fun if what i'm thinking is happening. Will post about it later.

TheChyz Canada238 Posts January 10 2014 22:06 GMT #1088 Gotta go for a few hours, will be back afterwards. This vote kinda sucks but I think there is quite a wealth of information that can be garnered from it.

BigDad 67 Posts January 10 2014 23:18 GMT #1089 Hey everyone. Saturday morning hangover. -_- Sorry for being afk for a bit, Friday night work drinks rolled me hard. Let me catch up on the thread. I need to work out why this random as heck switch to OWB happened.

BigDad 67 Posts January 10 2014 23:27 GMT #1090 Wow this is ridiculous, I'm going to post my reads in a bit, need to wake up properly. Think of my play what you will (@Balla, etc) I don't really care if you've done your theory crafting on me, I know it's wrong. Looking at dnyarri and theChyz's filters it seems like the rest of town got played yesterday. I wish i had of been here.. -_- let me write up a post now.

onlywonderboy United States23745 Posts January 10 2014 23:40 GMT #1091 Oh well, I still had fun, RL just got in the way again. Sorry I couldn't be more active Balla, I hope having the full game was still better than me not playing.

BigDad 67 Posts January 11 2014 01:16 GMT #1092 as promised: Dynarri Evidently this guy has dodged a lynch two days in a row my questions is why? Is it because of a pro-town play style or is it because there have been 'better options' on each day. Funnily enough its the second one - and each time we choose someone else they have flipped town. This is curious, why on earth do we keep finding him to be the less scummy option? Lets have a look at his filter to determine whether he is actually contributing to the team. Check this bandwagoning he is doing: Day 1: dynarri jumps on theChyz bandwagon here Day 1: dynarri jumps onto theDragoon bandwagon and subsequent lynch here Day 2: dynarri spots possible opportunity of simultaneously bandwagoning onlywonderboy while posturing and preparing bandwagon onto me here Day 2: dynarri jumps onto the onlywonderboy bandwagono and subsequent lynch here Personally, looking at his filter I can't help but find him to be utterly scummy. Please take the time to look at that those links for me. Now that we can see his train of thought, lets go back to my initial question: "Why do we find him the less scummy option?" I DONT find him the less scummy option. He is consistently 'blowing in the wind' whichever way balla24 or popular demand takes his votes and it's working. Not only that, he has spent a lot of time out of the thread (which we realised when we initially decided to lynch him from lurking) but he is bandwagoning like no tomorrow. Where is the solid reasoning in his votes? Here, look at this reasoning for the OWB's mislynch: here which convieniently looks as if he has made some powerful reasoning when he links - but if you follow the link in that post... huh? where is the reasoning? he said it himself, he voted for OWB because OWB voted for him. That's a very irresponsible way to spend a vote. So now I ask "Why has he dodged a lynch two days in a row?" I'll post my analysis of theChyz shortly.

BigDad 67 Posts January 11 2014 01:19 GMT #1093 Ferk, I've got to go AWOL for a few hours to visit my cousin. I'll try get my post on theChyz out before N2 is over.

Balla24 2322 Posts January 11 2014 01:24 GMT #1094 No BigDad. It's not because he's the "less scummy option". Literally everyone wanted to lynch him, all my scum reads. OWB, You, Day_walker, Sidesprang... that makes him not scum.

Balla24 2322 Posts January 11 2014 01:27 GMT #1095 WITH THAT SAID. Sidesprang and Dnyarri scumteam is still possible in my opinion, and yesterday's events puts them in a great position if they are a team because evidence points away from that team. I'm wrestling with a few ideas in my head and i'll post them when I get time.

suki Canada1159 Posts January 11 2014 02:54 GMT #1096 Just looking over the events of the day and analyzing why people went on OWB to see if we can get any hints: sidesprang and dnyarri's reasons to jump on OWB were basically a paraphrase of my argument with nothing added. Asuna used the 'compare to his previous games' argument as well as well as a simple criticism of his read on Derrida. To be honest I'm frustrated that so many people bandwagoned on my case, said 'yup sounds good' and left it at that. It makes it very hard to analyze their motives. Especially Asuna, who I thought was a better player than this and who I think is town (from my own impression and from the undisputed roleblock claim).. I expected more. Day_Walker provided his own reasoning and shows he put some thought into his decisions. I think even though everyone has been reading Day_Walker as scum, I still have to disagree. I think his posts show he's put a lot of thought into his decisions and he hasn't been afraid to go against the flow of the town based on his own reads, even if they mean he stands out. BigDad votes dnyarri, without much reason behind it. In Day 2 he postures a lot but doesn't add anything and eventually goes AWOL, completely missing the critical portion of the day when everyone is discussing OWB. His reason to vote dnyarri is also hardly explained. He's definitely on my scum list for Day 3.

Balla24 2322 Posts January 11 2014 03:04 GMT #1097 ^ Yep. I'm super frustrated because it seems like all the townies in the pool of players that I deem possibly scum ARE NOT TRYING TO SOLVE THE GAME. I can't do much with the info you guys are giving me. The last hour of the day was the only time where we had anything going. That was a terrible day on the part of this town. Good thing there's leeway with Derrida's death.

Deleted User 323385 41 Posts January 11 2014 12:49 GMT #1098 @BigDad Most of your arguments against me are incredibly onesided. - I wasn't posturing and preparing bandwagon onto you. I propably wouldn't have said anything about you or onlywonderboy if I wasn't asked to give my opinions. Before I was asked, I was against Day_Walker. - I posted against theDragoon after reading YOUR post and I was actually first to vote against theDragoon - You are twisting my words. I didn't say I was voting onlywonderboy because of saving myself. I said I should, for *transparency*. I really thought onlywonderboy was scum. I wish onlywonderboy would have "shown his membership card" by giving proper defense. And I'm still expecting for some opinion from you BigDad on Day_Walker after Day_Walker decided to vote against onlywonderboy. And what is your opinion on Asuna? And what do you think about sidespring since sidespring voted against me? Going away now. Will be back later.

Balla24 2322 Posts January 11 2014 17:58 GMT #1099 @BigDad... i don't care if you still think dnyarri is mafia. You're tunneling like a mad man. If dnyarri is so mafia, who is his second mafia? If you say Chyz... -How do you justify their interactions with each other on Day1 (they attacked each other's arguments and cross voted each other in an OMGUS style early on)? -And how do you justify Chyz and Derrida's interactions on day1? (I'll admit when I re-look, I probably jumped the gun on this one)

Balla24 2322 Posts January 11 2014 18:01 GMT #1100 (note that I'm not saying it's not possible... I just want to see you do some work)

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