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Derrida
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Balla24
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Derrida
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BigDad
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&user=TheChyz | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
The sheer fact that you don't want to vote prematurely PROVES that voting is commitment. and remember: On January 07 2014 06:51 Derrida wrote: By the way, I would like to re-iterate this point by Balla: "Anyways, since we have a huge timezone gap for some people, we need to consolidate on a few lynch targets TODAY, so that the people who can't be around here for the deadline will be able to hopefully make their votes meaningful. This means I want everyone's votes out on someone by the end of the day, obviously not final." While I do not like the attitude, I do like the idea. When would a tentative deadline be, for example? Oh and Balla, what do you mean by "people like BigDad"? | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
On January 07 2014 08:34 BigDad wrote: erm, where is TheChyz. He voted a lurker then went afk. What the? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434723&user=TheChyz it's been 4 hrs... what kind of fake contribution post is this bigdad? | ||
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BigDad
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Derrida
2885 Posts
## Vote TheDragoon Off to sleep, afk for 8ish hours. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
On January 07 2014 08:44 BigDad wrote: I was looking through everyones feeds and saw that, i thought it was notable considering the early (and large) play by him - then the hasty retreat from play with an easy vote on a Lurker. What is your analysis on him so far? Let's start with your analysis on the current target: theDragoon (there's what... 4 or 5 votes on him atm?)... it's like you're completely avoiding him. What I think of Chyz atm is irrelevant, I've already hashed out what I think about him multiple times. Plus, he's afk right now. | ||
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Balla24
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BigDad
67 Posts
I've already outlined several times that I think theDragoon is an easy scum pick. Look at his posts (and my previous posts on him). I'll state it again he tends to dodge questions and post fluff that we cannot use to hunt scum. His self-vote is confusing; it's either a desperate, last-ditch attempt by a scum player to make us doubt our actions. Or it's a newbie town that can't deal with the pressure on himself and he needs to post more content to get the bandwagon off him. My position at the moment is that even a valiant fight on his behalf wont stop this bandwagon, this means that whatever he flips tomorrow we may be able to see his relationships with other players - unfortunately he seems to have given up the ghost and stopped posting. This means that should he flip Town he isn't helping us a whole bunch. | ||
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BigDad
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Balla24
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chinstrap
United Kingdom253 Posts
Lynch the scummiest target because they are scum. | ||
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theDragoon
Canada307 Posts
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Balla24
2322 Posts
I don't see how you're speeding things up at all, we still would have had to wait your flip anyways. Only way you could have sped it up was by admitting you're mafia  Looking forward to when you get back. | ||
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chinstrap
United Kingdom253 Posts
Looking forward to a good ole hanging tomorrow! | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
First and foremost I think it's prudent to address the person that strikes me as the number one scum in the game: theDragoon On January 06 2014 15:49 theDragoon wrote: That's enough of a reason to lynch Asuna? I don't see that as good enough to suspect Asuna of being mafia, unless you know more than what you've said there. Those 3 things you listed there is just a sign of an inexperienced player, it has nothing to do with being a scum. I said that because his reasoning to lynch Asuna was basically due to Asuna's inexperience, which I think is not a good enough reason to be lynched when there are a lot more suspicious people out there. I don't know if Jonny knows more about Asuna, I only thought that because I was not buying his reason to lynch Asuna. The more I read these posts the more I dislike them. He's basically stating that he knows Asuna's "excuses, bandwagoning and self doubt" are due to her inexperience, and he's not leaving any room to interpret them as scummy. How would a town Dragoon be so sure? I'm more and more confident that the 'knows more about Asuna' line really is a scum slip. Other things that scream scum to me: theDragoon's knee jerk reaction to vote OWB because of an incorrect timeline. - Attacking his attacker for a slight inconsistency. His statement that Balla is rising up on his suspicions list with Balla's 'immediate' jump to lynch him. - More of the same His flip-flopping on Derrida, first saying his suspicion is 'low' and then on his very next post saying Derrida is higher up. - Scummy enough, and he even admits that he's flip-flopping His top scum reads are Day_Walker because he doesn't like that Day_Walker has a town read on him (???), and me, because he thinks I'm too eager to scumhunt (also ???). And aside from his knee-jerk suspicions thrown at OWB, Balla and now Derrida he hasn't contributed any other reads. + Show Spoiler + His top 2 scum read post: I'm not good enough at this game to get scum reads from forum posts. If you REALLY want me to give my top 2 most suspicious people are: Day_Walker: If I don't buy his town read on me, why should I believe his other reads. I've got the most votes on me right now and I want to see if Day_Walker still thinks I'm a townie. suki: "Okay then, lets get back to scumhunting :D". A bit too eager to go scumhunting there, don't ya think? Not really a good reason to call him mafia. And finally under all this pressure then he says his play is due to him being new to the game and self-destructs. I feel a lot of frustration in Dragoon's most recent posts, and I kind of feel bad for him since he is new to Mafia and this is a really gut-wrenching game, but I really do think his inexperience is his downfall and that there's no way he's not mafia here. ##vote theDragoon More analysis on its way. If there's anything you want me to answer post it; I'll be here for a bit. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
The more I read these posts the more I dislike them. He's basically stating that he knows Asuna's "excuses, bandwagoning and self doubt" are due to her inexperience, and he's not leaving any room to interpret them as scummy. How would a town Dragoon be so sure? I'm more and more confident that the 'knows more about Asuna' line really is a scum slip. You summed up my bad feeling about those posts succinctly and better than I did by far. I agree with your points and my only doubt is sometimes people implode under pressure when they're town. He came back into the thread rejuvenated. This could easily be scum qt telling him not to quit and helping him form a defense. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
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