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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 09:38 GMT
#7451
Because it was 1000% easy to just lynch risen and have 2kp without anyone thinking twice especially as thr votes were so split
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 09:50 GMT
#7454
Followed others?? I started the whole let's lynch BC on page 2 of my filter, on the day BH was getting lynched?? I told people about thrawn over and over to only get told that he wasn't scum and then austin came and said it in a more verbose way and people switched just like that. I told people to consolidate on him to avoid bad things happening AND i hammered him. I haven't made a proper case on slam yet so obviously it looks weak but have you really filter dived him and seen town train of thoughts or progression? I have and i don't see it.

Now, to top it all off i made a case on coag, wanted to lynch him yesterday and then the cheek when I hear you say that oh yeh i think he might be scum without thought processes, prior mentioning or anything and to tell me that I'm following when i have seen no hint of leading from you must be a joke. If you're really insinuating that i must be scum because you have town reads on slam austin and onegu (who you still call scum and towny at the same time on the same day?) based on that then i can't really see you being town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 09:51 GMT
#7455
I know what your logs say because i scoured through them and raised attention to all the oddities during the course of the game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 09:53 GMT
#7458
Flipping of reads, abandonment of previous reads, attentive in thread when not posting only to hardcore afk when a case is finally made on him and people state that he'll probably get lynched the next day. What happened to that lynch? Oh yeh, it got buried so deep in a double townie death. More reason to be suspicious.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 09:54 GMT
#7459
I've definitely read them before
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 17:21 GMT
#7468
Your 'debunking' of the coag case is completely wrong. He has his own scum reads and completely dropped them IN THE NIGHT saying "if i die lynch risen(? Or oats cant remember) or thrawn", before it was even contemplated about those 2 being lynched properly... He then proceeded to say both are null and he doesn't care who dies?? If he makes an if i die to lynch 2 players that he didn't previously have scum reads on and then the next day says they are null and just sheeps austin, is that not suspicious to you?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 17:22 GMT
#7469
On December 05 2013 02:20 Onegu wrote:
Holyflare are you here, why am I not in the list of people you dont want to lynch today?


I liked your increase in activity the past few days it seemed transparent and you interacted well in mason with pandain so I'm somewhat off you for now compared to the others.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 17:34 GMT
#7474
I don't really get how people can have me as a scum read but then agree with every single one of my targets.... -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 17:42 GMT
#7477
Well I told you i wouldn't be back at my computer till 6 so i've just been posting off the top of my head till now, will be back in 15 mins or so though so I can make some moves.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 19:14 GMT
#7484
Yesterday was a good point to lynch coin flippy players........ Today less so, it's 6vs3 so if we mislynch today then tomorrow is pretty much over if we get it wrong.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 22:44 GMT
#7496
On December 05 2013 07:10 Pandain wrote:
Don't know if I'll be back.

Going to say this:
Mafia probably bussed thrawn, almost certaintly.
Keep that in mind while thinking.


I figure that it's very highly unlikely that they ALL bussed thrawn though so there has to be one off the lynch! Onegu's filter is full of contradictions like that; at one point he even says he's going to vote for risen because "HF likes to bus his team and his vote is on risen"...............?

and austin you want to know the reason for his vote on risen:

On November 23 2013 06:11 Onegu wrote:
I know HF likes to bus, and the other wagons I have town reads on so youre it. Looks like im the only one on HF but not going to vote for a null read at this point.



yeh.................................................... great logic there
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 22:47 GMT
#7497
If it's only one person off the wagon I think it's likely to be slam, if more than one then onegu and slam would be most probable scum candidates based on filters.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 22:49 GMT
#7501
No that's for picking risen over koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 22:50 GMT
#7502
also this is my filter thus far with slam -.-............:

+ Show Spoiler +
HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted
12-04-2013
02:03 PM ET (US)


Edit

Delete
Gimme your reads that you have
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Alakaslam
12-04-2013
01:39 PM ET (US)
Hello sir, I saw the pm notice in my inbox and was all like "Pandain finally wants to chat... Hoo boy!"

Well, you aren't pandain, but I will tell you I :D on seeing your name. I can be a little more comfortable here.

In thread there is some concern. I am in damage control mode. We are too close to lylo for me to lynch myself out, so that is done. However, I am very odd in some ways I have found.

1: I like to try and "game the system". This can have odd results.

2: I am horrible at explaining myself and forming reads. Yet, I am capable of establishing town status very quickly (see: THIS GAME) and losing it just as fast (see: oh please).

3: I can switch from Spock like behavior (<3 KadaverBB) to LOONY CHUPAZISLAMPHEEEESH at the flip I the proverbial switch, however, assume said switch has a powerful magnet at "CHUPAZI" and a magnetic switch tip. Still, this can be very useful.

4: I don't like to divulge my secrets.

I have enjoyed surprising (even to me) success as scum. I can survive being everyone's scum read it seems, but only when they are right.
I they are wrong I am clueless to avoid a mislynch, I just spam the honest truth and hope it works. It hasn't yet.

Also, I have rolled blue significantly more often than vt. In fact I have an equal scum-vt game ratio so far I think. Anyway, this means I am almost foriegn to vt play. Blue games are more memorable and scum games? It's my favorite roll.

So here? I am vt. But it will be difficult for anyone to discover this I think, which is why I martyred.

Can't really remember what els oh yeah you are in UK I am in California, I think the only way our time zones could be any more different would be if I was Hawaiian.

K well I check QT much more often than thread, it just feels toxic in there.

I have a bazillion town reads.
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Where you atttt? i want to find out who you are!
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HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted
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Hai!
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Holyflare + Alakaslam mason Day 7/Night 7
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 22:55 GMT
#7505
Like the lynch is over 2 hours from now and slam said he'd be more active in my QT than thread but has only responded once the entire time. He's under the hammer from me and his only way to convince me is that "he's under pressure and is a vt and likes to game the system"??? I don't think that's the mindset of a town, if he was town he would be doing everything in his power right now to survive because we are pretty much going to lose if he is town and get's mislynched.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 22:56 GMT
#7506
It's also not the slam I played with when he was town. Town slam made cases on people and pulled out posts and questioned them. In this game he trawls through a filter points out what's scummy, finds a post that looks remotely townie and calls that person town and then just drops it altogether. There's no conviction in what he is doing!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 22:57 GMT
#7507
##Vote Alakaslam


yolo
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 23:04 GMT
#7512
It doesn't matter what he's done in another game because the situations do not translate. Risen was just literally told he was beind bad by martyring and straight up the next day slam does the same thing. He can't even explain his vote off thrawn onto VA.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 23:31 GMT
#7521
I was more aiming at the aborted shenanigans option, I'd be totally fine if he explained wtf was going through his mind BUT HE WONT DO IT.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 04 2013 23:47 GMT
#7524
Also looking into the Risen early vote thing after SS's death.

You have coag who makes the if i die post saying lynch oats or thrawn and then posts:

On November 24 2013 10:05 Coagulation wrote:
im vt

##vote: Risen


on the page right after.

Pandain too:

On November 24 2013 10:19 Pandain wrote:
Supersoft wasn't going to change his mind. So if he was wrong, why wouldn't they just let him be?

Lynch Risen


also makes a really shoddy case here:

On November 24 2013 16:08 Pandain wrote:
Here's why I think Risen is scum:

1. Martying. Vayne, you hate martyrs. Now factor in the fact that it's Risen who is known to be really stubborn and play against odds(alone in WHC), and his solution is to ask for a town vig despite the fact that two have already been revealed?
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 05:08 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: And once again your appeals to "that would be crazy!" are horrible if you're town, horrible if you're scum. Get on my level kids. World Heavyweight Champion OUT!

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


2. He thinks I'm mafia. I was pretty easy lynch-bait because I was quiet, but there weren't any real good reasons for voting me; at least not that he brought up. His arguments were trash and based around SS logs, which didn't make any sense.
This post so bad
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 16:56 Risen wrote:
Gut read. Haven't really read the thread. Scum did a good job clogging it up. I'll read up tomorrow and back up my gut read. Sum of the gut is pandain's interaction with people.


3.
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:22 Risen wrote:
Pandain #1 scum read
Grack policy lynch

I can be convinced to vote for someone not pandain (though I'll have to see something more) but will not be unvoting Grack..


but then later
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 10:28 Risen wrote:
Super is probably scum so...


So scum lynch is inferior to policy lynch?





then slam comes in just to say:

On November 25 2013 00:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Well, Risen seems like he will be lynched.

Do you want to give your reads as you will be confirmed town? Do you like SuperSoft's list?


..........? -.-


Pandain coems back with
On November 25 2013 04:10 Pandain wrote:
Honestly I'm way less confident in Thrawn too. Early in the first two days he was like one of my top town reads. I would be surprised if we was scum because he played extremely well until today. And even so, I could see people having like mini-breakdowns and posting scummy.

Like I would lynch him, but not until way later because I think Coag, Risen, and Oats are all better lynches.


Totally neglected coag lynch when I brought it up at the CC/Oats lynch thing and now wants to lynch coag again today.

On November 25 2013 08:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
Everyone voting Risen, if you're town this is unacceptable because SS has proven himself to be completely untrustworthy. BC has proven himself capable of fooling the guy you are sheeping. You can't all be scum, so what gives?


hopeless with the free town defending

On November 25 2013 13:19 Coagulation wrote:
risen or thrawn.

Im down to vote either one honestly. I dont give a shit cause I dont really have a scum read on either.
Oats is my lynch choice but it doesnt look like hes an option and I dont have the energy to try and get him lynched anyway.
and even if I did try I doubt it would be heard over the risen vrs thrawn debate anyway.

so im just gonna keep following along untill I get a sense of whos town and whos scum or just fucking random vote it at last minute.


coag with the oats/thrawn initial death post then voted risen is now IDC WHAT YOU DO LALALALALALAL

THEN

On November 26 2013 01:44 Onegu wrote:
##VOTE RISEN

Supersofts read
I should have killed him last night, basicly it was my unvote that killed rayn

Also HF thinks risen is scum but doesnt vote for him, when he know a risen lynch will get rid alot of questions on BC wifom, in addition to kill scum.

Look here is how I feel right now I laid some stuff down on HF multiple times, I asked for thoughts and even HF called for people to tell me to stfu. Other than HF who I was talkong about, no one else said a word. If I was scum I would be so happy I could just atk someone and look like activity but no one pays attention, but as I am town its really fucking depressing. Im not rayn Im not going to repeatedly shove shit in the thread. But all I hear is HF is town and no one saying a damn thing to me. My post on koshi only thrawn responded. If you think I am wrong give me fucking reasons. Dont just ignore it, I know alot of shit is going on but some people comment on just about everything but my case or thoughts. Austin asks me questions but doesnt actually talk about what I say. He reads it and moves on. Im caught up on everything I have thoughts, they havent changed since yesterday.


onegu just comes back and says he's sheeping SS..................................... then lies that my vote wasn't on risen who i voted the day before when it in fact was.
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