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supersoft
11-19-2013
08:13 PM ET (US)
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wp really. But i don't remember, why i abandoned the idea that you're assassin :-D

GG man
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-19-2013
08:03 PM ET (US)
gg friend.
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supersoft
11-19-2013
07:21 PM ET (US)
dunno i didnt really understand that part.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-19-2013
07:13 PM ET (US)
How do you say "He's unreadable" and then immediately say "I'm 100% sure he's going to flip red"?
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supersoft
11-19-2013
07:07 PM ET (US)
his reads yesterday:

I am going to have to take a step back from my tunneling ive been doing. I realize I am tunneling like I did against yamato only this time with grack -_-

As a note I strongly disagree with your pandain read. I also can see mig based off today potentially being town. I don't like his lack of participation in thread but he is actively updating his reads on his spreadsheet and when he posted today he was making sense as much as it pisses me off to admit.

Id place my reads more like

Town

Koshi
VE
You
Me
Artanis
OOHchild
Pandain

Null

Grack
Mig
Thrawn
Rayn
Lonemeow
Scum

Hopeless
BH

Leaning scum

Oats
Holyflare


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i think he might have changed a few things lately.
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supersoft
11-19-2013
07:06 PM ET (US)
he was a little afraid at the time:

Honestly. The only person anyone is likely going to agree to lynch today is me if not BH. Im moderately selfish in the fact that well, I'd like to live.

BH is unreadable. I am 100% certain hes going to flip red. Id rather take the "safe" lynch to ensure mafia kp dropping. If we attempt to swamp it now so close to deadline im likely dying. If BH somehow flips green we know almost for sure grack is mafia. If he flips assassin then it removes him and 1 other player lowering our pool of players instantly by 2. Having a smaller pool to analyze and use the double lynch tommorrow to me is the safest and smartest play.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-19-2013
06:43 PM ET (US)
What has BC said about Oats in your chats with him? Because he seemed to lightly agree that he looked bad but everything he says is about someone different - which I'm fine with to a point, but in the context of THIS lynch, it seems like he should be more interested in consolidating onto someone rather than bring up candidates no one is talking about...
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supersoft
11-19-2013
06:38 PM ET (US)
yes exactly, ah i love to talk to people who actually try to understand what i am saying. I know i am sometimes not really on spot with my phrasing... Thats one of my weakpoints when playing mafia :D
And exactly what i want to train for RL. I mean you need to speak almost flawless english these days...

(Offtopic)
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-19-2013
06:32 PM ET (US)
Yeah no, that makes total sense and is why initially I was with you on Oats in the first place. And his reaction imo to both of us targetting him was pretty telling imo. But yeah, with BH claiming everything under the sun and just fucking off what are we supposed to do? If he's town he's fucked us over and if he's scum he's like forcing us to lynch him pretty much.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-19-2013
06:30 PM ET (US)
Ah okay, and making Oats a candidate would have forced them to say something. Yeah that makes sense.
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supersoft
11-19-2013
06:24 PM ET (US)
ah now i understand - let me rephrase: There are people defending oats. I don't know what they really think, because they actually dont give any reasons for their reads
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supersoft
11-19-2013
06:23 PM ET (US)
ah no of course not.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-19-2013
06:21 PM ET (US)
Like what if we're wrong about BC and he's actually scum. Does that make either one of us scum? For thinking he's town?
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supersoft
11-19-2013
06:14 PM ET (US)
what?
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-19-2013
06:10 PM ET (US)
That doesn't mean anything - thinking scum is town doesn't make someone scum SS. Are you scum?
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supersoft
11-19-2013
06:05 PM ET (US)
nono, there are few people that think that oats is town
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-19-2013
05:59 PM ET (US)
I see no difference between the two. No one is defending Oats either because BH is a factor everyone just wants to kill BH. There's literally no difference between killing BH and Oats in terms of information gained this cycle.
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supersoft
11-19-2013
05:44 PM ET (US)
just discussed that with BC:

BH, I think he's unreadable. I think he might be scum, but I think it is better to lynch him with the doublelynch.
I mean there is almost no discussion about this lynch. Everyone is like yeah BH might be scum. If he flips green or assassin we got no further information for out doublelynch.
I prefer Oats today and BH tomorrow. Oats gives us information, so we can find a partner for BH much easier.

+ ScumKP won't go down in case we hit red today. They stay the same.
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supersoft
11-19-2013
04:31 PM ET (US)
i mean i try to look like i am trying. I hope he wakes up from this madness
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supersoft
11-19-2013
04:28 PM ET (US)
I try to get rayn lynched. I think we cannot win if he stays alive.
I am 100% sure, that almost noone follows this thread anymore. He's discussing townreads for millions of pages, this is just insane.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-19-2013
12:31 PM ET (US)
K...
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Supers
11-19-2013
04:29 AM ET (US)
nono pandain masoned BC because i told him so.
BC and I are still masoned. He masoned me and I masoned you.
And BC masoning you wasn't strange, because he and I never worked together in any mafia game before...
I usually got him lynched ^_^
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
10:25 PM ET (US)
For the record, I knew ever since BC masoned me first instead of you. <3
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
10:24 PM ET (US)
Oh so this was PLANNED. So you and BC are scum TOGETHER and this was all PLANNED. Okay, thanks super! ^^
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
10:03 PM ET (US)
I was under the impression that there was a mason circle. With the circle broken there's no reason for me to keep it a secret any longer.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
10:03 PM ET (US)
Yes obviously. You don't find it weird that he didn't mason you? You know, keep the circle going?
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Supers
11-18-2013
09:58 PM ET (US)
bc and pandain are masoned ^^
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Supers
11-18-2013
09:17 PM ET (US)
he's scum and now he's trying to confuse us and he's trying to get some mercy!
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
09:12 PM ET (US)
Fucking Oats dude. Like he doesn't even read. He doesn't care and he doesn't read and he could be any fucking alignment at all, there's no way of knowing. That's not playing Mafia, that's being an annoying little shit and ruining the game for everyone.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
08:58 PM ET (US)
Was it so potent it assailed your dreams causing you to have nightmares?
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Supers
11-18-2013
08:57 PM ET (US)
lol. i woke up from the bullshit oatsmaster posted :D
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
08:03 PM ET (US)
The alternative is that BH really is an Assassin, claimed to the wrong guy, played an exceptionally bad game, and then got outted at the most inopportune time possible for him (when the mayor and pardoner come out of the woodwork and both agree on a target that was NOT him)

So you either think that the above is true, or you think that BH is either town or scum and fake-claimed two town powerroles and Assassin. I admit that either conclusion is hard to swallow - but I think the former is more likely, assuming BH is scum. I don't think a town BH would confound town like this.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
07:43 PM ET (US)
Later dude.

His claim makes him scum basically, not third party.
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Supers
11-18-2013
07:36 PM ET (US)
lol now i am confused -_-
i am going to sleep now ^_^

cu tomorrow
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
07:27 PM ET (US)
omg classic BH.

We should probably just lynch it man. XD
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
07:22 PM ET (US)
Ooooh watch what happens when I do this.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
07:20 PM ET (US)
Oh - Ya I don't know. I actually think BH might be an assassin, but I have /no/ idea what Coag is. He keeps saying he thinks it's weird how no one suspects him because of him not doing anything. Instead of...you know...doing something. It's really weird, and I'm not sure how to take it.
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Supers
11-18-2013
07:18 PM ET (US)
dunno... i think it's somehow fitting. I didn't think too much about it :D
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
07:16 PM ET (US)
Problem solved. What makes you think Coag is an assassin?
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
07:16 PM ET (US)
LMAO
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Supers
11-18-2013
07:15 PM ET (US)
thread ^_^
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
07:14 PM ET (US)
TELL ME!
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Supers
11-18-2013
07:13 PM ET (US)
i have an Idea!
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Supers
11-18-2013
07:13 PM ET (US)
true. Marv is the kind of guy who makes coagulation and BH assassins :D
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
07:10 PM ET (US)
It's just this game though, that's what gets me. It's /just/ this game where I'm having a hard time reading him. Generally I can at least say whether I think he's town or scum, but this game for some reason I'm having a hard time saying one way or the other. He's not playing like he has extra information, but he's not playing like he gives a shit about town winning either. Maybe he actually /is/ an assassin.
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Supers
11-18-2013
07:00 PM ET (US)
true... i can't read anything out of what BH produces. He could be anything...
I remember the days when we expected Kurumi to be unreadable...
What people do lately makes Kurumi look like the paragon of serious play :-(
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
06:52 PM ET (US)
Or I guess 49/49 or whatever because Assassins XD
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
06:51 PM ET (US)
For my part I'd say about 50/50. I like Oats for scum though.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
06:51 PM ET (US)
Yeah I'm feelin that. FEELIN IT BRO.

What do you think the chances of hitting scum lynching BH are?
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Supers
11-18-2013
06:45 PM ET (US)
more scum btw:

pandain and mig.

townies:
BC
Grack
rayn
koshi
VE
artanis
OOHCHILD
Lonemoew
VA
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Supers
11-18-2013
06:44 PM ET (US)
we talked about it, but he didn't try to influence me there. I picked my target and told him after the deadline to make sure, if he's scum, he cannot change anything.
But all in all, i am confident he's town.
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Supers
11-18-2013
06:42 PM ET (US)
because i think that BC is town, and we have a towncircle.
Scum doesnt know that BC/you/me are connected.
If they know, they might suicide on me and we're all dead.

suicidebomber goes through my vest, your vest and obviously BC. :-o

And it's more fun to look at peoples reactions, when we stick together like glue.

And i can claim my RBings to you and if I die, you know who I blocked and you can use the information.
And I don't have to claim my RBs in the thread.
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
06:40 PM ET (US)
No did you discuss all that with him?
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
06:39 PM ET (US)
I'm struggling with keeping my mason information from town though - explain to me why I need to not explain to town who is masoning me right now.
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Supers
11-18-2013
06:39 PM ET (US)
did he tell you about the RBing stuff?
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
06:37 PM ET (US)
Ya no I don't wanna lynch BC yet - I just wanted to see your gut reaction when I said that.

My impression is town from my PMs with him, but understand that /I/ understand that BC is extraordinarily skilled in PMs and I'm giving that little weight. From what I've seen in the thread, I'm saying I think he's town.
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Supers
11-18-2013
06:36 PM ET (US)
is trust you btw :D
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Supers
11-18-2013
06:36 PM ET (US)
i need to know who shot mocsta and i want to know if scum shot sharrant or a vig/assassin.
Because I am townroleblocker and I blocked Oats.
Would be fantastic if one KP misses, because then Oats would be confirmed scum.
However oats didn't necessarily carry a scumKP.
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Supers
11-18-2013
06:35 PM ET (US)
no nvm i didnt tell him to. I just told him that he should convince you to vote for me
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Supers
11-18-2013
06:34 PM ET (US)
what? i told him to tell you my role!
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VisceraEyesPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
06:33 PM ET (US)
He didn't. Give me a sec to go reread it but I may MAY be willing to lynch BC.
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Supers
11-18-2013
06:32 PM ET (US)
finally my QT arrives... I wanted to go to sleep!

So now let's talk about BC, what's your impression. What did he tell you about me.
Did he tell you my role? I think so right?
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted
11-18-2013
06:30 PM ET (US)
supersoft & VE mason, Day 2/Night 2