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raynpelikoneet
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Oats - wrong, meta suggests Oats is town. Hopeless - wrong lazy meta-analysis, go look at Witchcraft 2 and then come back with the meta-case Cobbler - everything in his case has been said arleady. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Form of compensation will come with my sexy body being at your disposal throughout the mason term. | ||
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Holyflare
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On November 20 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Speaking of giving wishy-washy reads i have no idea why Holyflare calls Hopeless and Mattchew scum. His reasoning is "their meta shifts from their town games so heavily" yet he never explains how. I have still no idea why he voted supersoft for mayor (because he wanted to kill Mocsta maybe, is this correct?). I still have no clue why he says "I will run hardcore for mayor and lynch rayn" and then he doesn't do anything to make himself mayor. If someone know how Holyflare's filter from D1 suggests he "runs hardcore for mayor" please point it out. Quite clearly their meta's are wildly different. If you have read the mason chat I wrote that I most probably won't have time to outline cases on people that I found scummy and so I will have to vote someone that I think is towny into the slot. If you actually think their meta's in the same as a town game, that is a real joke. Ignoring any meta, hopeless' play this game has been very questionable but yet you don't even mention anything I've written about that. Although now I just plain know that you didn't actually read the mason chat because: On November 20 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Speaking of giving wishy-washy reads i have no idea why Holyflare calls Hopeless and Mattchew scum. His reasoning is "their meta shifts from their town games so heavily" yet he never explains how. I have still no idea why he voted supersoft for mayor (because he wanted to kill Mocsta maybe, is this correct?). I still have no clue why he says "I will run hardcore for mayor and lynch rayn" and then he doesn't do anything to make himself mayor. If someone know how Holyflare's filter from D1 suggests he "runs hardcore for mayor" please point it out. Is all answered within there. You even say why is hopeless not my scum read!?!?!? He's the second person out of 3 I mentioned??? Mattchew isn't mentioned because he is in modkill territory. Get your act together dude. There's also the fact you ask oats why I didn't look into yourself rather than him about mocsta??????? Your fucking filter is 20+ pages long in 2 days, there is no way that you are scum, I've seen what points you have been raising and although comical at times align you with town even more. Even if you were actually scum I only listed 3 people, there are 5 scum remaining and you are most definitely not in the front of my mind at the moment. I quite clearly think scum lie within those 3 and artanis brought up the point that BC would be a better scum loss and so that is an obvious reason for changing. You are the most tunneled player I think I've ever seen in a game of mafia. Not only do you say all my reads have changed (they most definitely haven't) but you find reasons for my return to also be portrayed scummy. You flat out make statements instead of inferring answers from questions asked at me. How can you possibly know my thought pattern and processes without asking? Stop making assumptions, play the game please. If i've been away from pretty much 48 hours, that's a lot of posts for me to catch up on. If you want to ask me questions about a specific instance in the game go ahead but what you're doing is silly. | ||
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thrawn2112
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@ all BH voters: ""When it comes down to it, Grack has done almost nothing today that merits the townreads or at least "let's lynch him later" reads that he's earned from people. People say my case on Grack is bad because he's an "easy target" but let's be 100% real here, that's pretty much the same as saying my case on Grack is bad because Grack is probably scum. Like "easy target" = "scummy". In fact, the majority of my case on Grack has to do with the fact that he's not an easy target, that when you reach out to grasp him he slips through your fingers like smoke and vanishes like a whisper on the wind, as quickly gone as an idle daydream but as firmly remembered as a summer's romance. "" in order of likeliness scum are grack pandain (one of HF or Austin, their mason chat was way too friendly and I don't detect any real suspicion coming from either of them) oats grack for reasons BH gave pandain because his stance on BH throughout D@ has been ridiculous and he has nothing else to talk about oats because town oats would never think i'm scum | ||
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Koshi
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Holyflare
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The link is Here!. This is quite clearly a town hopeless that I can see in this game. Not only does he make longer winded posts with actual information in them but this was also a game that he had replaced into. I can quite clearly see content in that game which is non-existant in this one. | ||
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On November 20 2013 03:15 Koshi wrote: I am voting for BH because he is scum. do me a favor. go read my mason logs with BH and pretend you're me | ||
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On November 20 2013 03:16 Holyflare wrote: He's so tunneled that he lies because he see's what he needs to see to make someone look like scum. He asked me to look at witchcraft 2 as an example of how hopeless plays town: The link is Here!. This is quite clearly a town hopeless that I can see in this game. Not only does he make longer winded posts with actual information in them but this was also a game that he had replaced into. I can quite clearly see content in that game which is non-existant in this one. so you're saying he's town then? why are you trying so hard to discredit him? I completely disagree with your hopeless read. Go look at that same game, wc2. Both rayn hopeless and I were all in it. What did hopeless do whenever I or other people call him scum? What did hopeless do earilier in this game whenever I raged at him? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Holyflare
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On November 08 2013 23:14 Hopeless1der wrote: and thats my queue to delurk. Since thrawn posted his case on ET its gained very little traction, and no on has been willing to call me out for being afk for more than 24 hours. For the record I'm only up to page 25/45 (the game before I replaced ET) but I also read cephiro's great-wall-of-WoS-is-scum post, so thats my excuse. Regarding Koshi's recent posts...does that almost confirm him as town since scum dont get witchcraft votes? So far, I have townreads on enough of the playerbase that lynching into my unknowns (assuming my townreads are right) would win the game by sheer numbers. The top of my would-lynch list is sylencia. This is partly OMGUS for him voting ET=me and partly what he's done today that thrawn already pointed out + Show Spoiler + On November 08 2013 14:28 thrawn2112 wrote: I am still wanting to lynch Onegu but I want to talk about syl because I'd like him to be a possible lynch candidate as well. Sylencia votes for ET on day 1. He is the only person with his vote still on ET at the end of the day during d2 sylencia says this Go back and read the part I bolded. Read what sylencia says he's going to do about hopeless during D2. He comes in voting for ceph saying that all the other candidates are likely to be lynched and therefore not worth talking about. I question him about this and his response is.... oh so now it's time to ignore everything being said about ET? When earlier he said hopeless is somebody he'd "be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him" why why why does nobody see this as scummy? syl's main candidate from d1 is someone who syl says he's going to "keep in mind during the course of the day" but he later refuses to acknowledge hopeless as a serious candidate. Others on my would-lynch list are umasi onegu and sn0-man, in no particular order, with no particular reasons than that I haven't found compelling reasons to call them town so far (Again, only up to page 25/45 at the time of this post) On November 09 2013 01:10 Hopeless1der wrote: ##Vote: Sn0_Man The silver bullet insistence when there is no evidence to that statement, still trying to out blues, this unsubstantiated statement that he almost immediately retracts when called out: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2013 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote: Nobody's around or something  this happened yesterday too then I get flamed because I'm afk or something. I'm fairly open to an Onegu lynch. That guy martyrs as scum all the time. I haven't identified anybody else I really want to lynch. Rayns points against ET make sense and all but at the same time if ET is scum he's successfully changed a lot of things about his scum play in the last... week. Which is eminently possible I guess, I mean I give him that much credit. OO's still scum but thrawn sez he's not so I'm not sure where to go with that one. Considering its majority lynch I don't think i'll waste anybodies time with him today. Coming up with 3 townreads is pretty hard when they can't just be the obvious candidates All point to him being scum to me. The gumshoe vote is a complete waste of time, but for the sake of confirmation bias: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2013 06:58 Sn0_Man wrote: 1 more or something lol this is awful Absolutely no thought into whether gumshoe was town or scum, just wanted a lynch On November 06 2013 07:02 Sn0_Man wrote: wat a shocker team ridiculous. Lets kill OO tomorrow. 'wat a shocker'....THEN WHY DID YOU FUCKERS LYNCH HIM? There's also this interaction with me, the moment i replace: + Show Spoiler + On November 07 2013 07:11 Sn0_Man wrote: R U scum? I half-jokingly but full-truthfully reply: On November 07 2013 07:16 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm an acolyte. I am not of The Inquisition. I am not scum. My blood is green. U haz moar questions? His response: On November 07 2013 07:21 Sn0_Man wrote: Either u read the whole thread in 5 mins or ur checking up on the most recent page. Dunno if that means anything. I fail to see what questions I could have for you that would be relevant. Tell u wat. As you read the game, Pay attention to OO and tell us why u think he was the NK  For whatever reason, Sn0 feels the need to take the piss out of me for being a little cheeky in response to his rhetorical question. It feels wrong that he is insinuating that I'm "something" simply because I hit F5. Is that not a common thing for replacements to do? Also, deferring any read of OO onto me, in addition to insisting OO was a silver bullet target. On November 13 2013 12:08 Hopeless1der wrote: @Sn0 Like what, pray-tell? Do I get my own personal edition of "(OMGUS-read) makes up shit!" (previous installments include WoS makes up shit Parts 1 and 2) Are you sure you have read the thread? I've been saying you and Syl for a long time, basically from the moment I replaced (and caught up). I know I backed off syl for a bit but that was before a)koshi flipped and b) rayn gave Umasi a greencheck I will not consider voting the "other person" unless thrawn and rayn decide to go after syl instead of you(/me) today. @Thrawn what, having no reads and running around chasing my own tail? Aside from a slight diversion for thinking syl was too dumb to be scum, I've been consistent and assertive in stating who I think is scummy and who I want lynched. Furthermore, the consensus comes down to scum being Sn0 + (Me/Sylencia). So, while I can appreciate that you are not able to verify my role PM, my attitude of "lol game solved" is absolutely appropriate given the knowledge that I would be expected to have.(or pretend to if I were scum). I will concede that I have not been proactive about getting my scumreads lynched so I'll have to get to work on that. Sn0_Man To start with, do you recall Sn0's "Onegu matryrs as scum" debacle? I've spoilered the relevant quotes. + Show Spoiler + The bolded red in this quote On November 06 2013 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote: Nobody's around or something this happened yesterday too then I get flamed because I'm afk or something. I'm fairly open to an Onegu lynch. That guy martyrs as scum all the time. I haven't identified anybody else I really want to lynch. Rayns points against ET make sense and all but at the same time if ET is scum he's successfully changed a lot of things about his scum play in the last... week. Which is eminently possible I guess, I mean I give him that much credit. OO's still scum but thrawn sez he's not so I'm not sure where to go with that one. Considering its majority lynch I don't think i'll waste anybodies time with him today. Coming up with 3 townreads is pretty hard when they can't just be the obvious candidates The next whole quote belongs in an IHOP On November 06 2013 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote: Last game I gave him a townread for something and he said stuff like "don't give me a townread for that" and shit. Maybe not full martyr but the mindset is the same. Its "Would scum throw away "towncred" like this? Would scum call attention to themselves like this? Of course not". Its how Onegu plays. I'll admit that I often get the same vibes from his townplay and in general I have real difficulty reading Onegu, but I'd argue that that makes him a serious liability to have moving into the late game. And he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town. I mean, if he IS town, then he wants to die so we should oblige him and solve that questionmark. If he is scum, then we lynch scum. It feels like the right move right now. Besides what townie ever self votes except in frustration? This wasn't frustration it was "look at me I'm so cooperative and want town to win" yeah right. Note the emphasis on Onegu martyrs AS SCUM all the time On November 09 2013 01:11 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm not insisting retards, I'm trying to figure out. I retract nothing, onegu martyrs and plays the "no-defence" scum style all the time. Now see his response when I tell him to PROVE its a SCUM-ONLY trait for Onegu + Show Spoiler + On November 09 2013 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote: Quotes, filters and alignments for the games in question. You wanted to lynch the guy. Prove he martyr's ONLY as scum and NEVER as town. On November 09 2013 01:18 Sn0_Man wrote: Well you aren't reading. I say he does it as both alignments. I've played with onegu as town and scum multiple times. He plays very similarly as both alignments and he's always the last scum to die. I've lost to his scum. If other people think he is scum, I am going to lend weight to their arguments because I have no reason to believe otherwise. But he JUST finished saying Onegu is scum because he martyr's as scum. Now he's saying Onegu martyrs as town as well. Then why in the hell is Onegu a scum-read? btw, from Onegu's filter with regard to this issue: On November 09 2013 01:19 Onegu wrote: This is the first time I have martyred as town, and I dont martyr all the time as scum I think I have only done it twice as scum and I never self voted. ...from Onegu's own mouth. He has never martyred as town before this game. Now he could very well be mistaken, but I'd like to believe Sn0 is full of it rather than believe that Onegu misunderstands what martyring is. So there's that issue fleshed out more thoroughly. I touched on this in my earlier case on Sn0 which is spoilered here if you'd like to re-read it: + Show Spoiler + ##Vote: Sn0_Man The silver bullet insistence when there is no evidence to that statement, still trying to out blues, this unsubstantiated statement that he almost immediately retracts when called out: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2013 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote: Nobody's around or something this happened yesterday too then I get flamed because I'm afk or something. I'm fairly open to an Onegu lynch. That guy martyrs as scum all the time. I haven't identified anybody else I really want to lynch. Rayns points against ET make sense and all but at the same time if ET is scum he's successfully changed a lot of things about his scum play in the last... week. Which is eminently possible I guess, I mean I give him that much credit. OO's still scum but thrawn sez he's not so I'm not sure where to go with that one. Considering its majority lynch I don't think i'll waste anybodies time with him today. Coming up with 3 townreads is pretty hard when they can't just be the obvious candidates All point to him being scum to me. The gumshoe vote is a complete waste of time, but for the sake of confirmation bias: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2013 06:58 Sn0_Man wrote: 1 more or something lol this is awful Absolutely no thought into whether gumshoe was town or scum, just wanted a lynch On November 06 2013 07:02 Sn0_Man wrote: wat a shocker team ridiculous. Lets kill OO tomorrow. 'wat a shocker'....THEN WHY DID YOU FUCKERS LYNCH HIM? There's also this interaction with me, the moment i replace: + Show Spoiler + On November 07 2013 07:11 Sn0_Man wrote: R U scum? I half-jokingly but full-truthfully reply: On November 07 2013 07:16 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm an acolyte. I am not of The Inquisition. I am not scum. My blood is green. U haz moar questions? His response: On November 07 2013 07:21 Sn0_Man wrote: Either u read the whole thread in 5 mins or ur checking up on the most recent page. Dunno if that means anything. I fail to see what questions I could have for you that would be relevant. Tell u wat. As you read the game, Pay attention to OO and tell us why u think he was the NK For whatever reason, Sn0 feels the need to take the piss out of me for being a little cheeky in response to his rhetorical question. It feels wrong that he is insinuating that I'm "something" simply because I hit F5. Is that not a common thing for replacements to do? Also, deferring any read of OO onto me, in addition to insisting OO was a silver bullet target. I'd like to add to this, why is he upset that I answered his question? Was I not supposed to see it? Like...what exactly was the "town" response he was looking for there? Ignoring him completely? His post in response to me is just noise and reaches no conclusions, as usual. Next, something Thrawn pointed out in blue, and obviously the relevant scum association in red: You know...I could write something up, but I'd much rather you, the reader, go into Sn0's filter, hit All and then Ctrl+F for 'Vanesco' and 'syl'. Read each quote up to the 7th time each name crops up (So ctrl+F 'vanesco', read quote, hit next, read quote etc. until instance #7 then repeat for syl). Let me know if you found the statement in red from the above quote convincing. In fact, here is his filter, already set to 'All' mode. Okay, so you did that right? Checked his filter out? Good, now go ahead and open the spoiler. + Show Spoiler + There was not a whole lot of reasoning for Vanesco and I'll be damned if I saw anything concrete about syl, but you can be sure of one thing: Sn0 said On November 11 2013 16:12 Sn0_Man wrote: Something something weekend something something not at all convinced vanesco is scum. ##Vote: Vanesco I'll attempt to show up pre-lynch since I feel like syl's a better one but majority etc. A better lynch to be more precise. i.e. calling him scum. So how come he later on says On November 13 2013 05:27 Sn0_Man wrote: Yeah u changed avatar now we can't be Templar friends I wasn't leaning scum on syl because there wasn't memorably scummy things in them. Syl is part of a large group of people who play very forgettably as town or scum as far as I can tell (Umasi too only he's town this game). Syl went kinda pants on head D3 though. Is calling the towniest person in the thread scum intelligent as either alignment? I'd argue not... How'd I come through all that without a certain scum? ugh. Still working on it or something. Sn0 LITERALLY said he thinks syl is a better lynch than Vanesco. In what universe does that not equate to a scum read? How many times has Sn0 made a waffle and on how many players? It'd be one thing if he was pursuing leads on a scum read, but again, Thrawn you already hit this point:+ Show Spoiler + On November 13 2013 07:13 thrawn2112 wrote: snoman like every single post you've made today has been something like words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words but on the other hand words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words null tell or nvm Its not just today though...its everything he's done all game. The only thing he was consistent on was OO being scum. Oh, and that OO died to a Silver Bullet. Because scum-reads are most likely to be elected as blues and then shot by the witchhunter in Sn0_Man's head. wat. Obviously, I'm a little confirmation biased, so I've spoilered the following statements from Sn0's filter that left me wondering what the hell is he doing? + Show Spoiler + On November 13 2013 07:11 Sn0_Man wrote: PS Theres 0 fucking way koshi is shot if i'm scum I think. wat? + Show Spoiler + On November 13 2013 07:15 Sn0_Man wrote: Every post i've made has been legit. Nobody reads them though because you all have scumreads on me for no fucking reason. The fact that I haven't solved the game 100% is PROOF IM FUCKING TOWN since we are at MYLO if i'm scum I just ahve to commit to 1 mislynch and win. READ VANESCO PLEASE PPS: i voted thrawn for blue last night. Blue can claim see my above post. If you did soem retard shit like hiding then fuck you how's that help solve the game. wat + Show Spoiler + On November 13 2013 07:28 Sn0_Man wrote: I want to lynch Hopeless and Syl. I don't really care which since they are both scum. Rayn could be (that suspicion keeps getting stronger) but I'm ignoring that since even if he is there must be another scum out there. Literally nobody else can be scum (I have a green pm, you can't be scum, thats the entire thread). The only good reasons I have for them to be scum (apart from EchelonTee and vanesco tag-teaming shit like pushing you day 1, voting me d2, etc) is process of elimination. Any point you can put on me (too lazy to scumhunt) applies to hopeless in fucking spades. Syl has been off in lala land all game apparently thats more townie than having fun with the game d1[*], doing my best to discuss onegu day 2[**], actually voting for scum d3[***], etc... You guys are all so out of touch because scum kept whispering "sno is scum" in the thread till people believed it for NO REASON. Koshi himself said (and he's conftown) that I afk most weekends you can't lynch me for that. Note how he got killed because Koshi was the single person most against my lynch in the whole thread. * i.e. Nothing. p.s. I replaced in Day2 ** Remember how he martyrs, all the fucking time? u gaiz? he so martyr ***+ Show Spoiler + On November 12 2013 00:32 Hapahauli wrote: Vote-Count: Day 3 Vanseco (6): Thrawn2112, Umasi, Koshi, Sn0_Man, raynpelikoneet, Hopeless1der Sn0_Man (1): Vanesco, Cephiro (1): Sylencia Not Voting (1): Cephiro Currently Vanesco is set to be lynched! 5 votes are needed to lynch. The deadline is in @ Monday, Nov 11 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). Make sure to PM your ONE witchcraft vote to both Blazinghand and Ange777 by the deadline. + Show Spoiler + On November 13 2013 07:29 Sn0_Man wrote: PS by scum whispering that I mean Onegu and ET/Hopeless unless that isn't clear. On November 09 2013 07:00 Blazinghand wrote: Onegu the Acolyte has been elminated! ![[image loading]](http://cdn.alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/jpg/misc-you-dont-say.jpg) | ||
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Holyflare
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On November 20 2013 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare did you vote ss for amyor because he wanted to kill Mocsta? READ MY MASON CHAT!?!?!?! | ||
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thrawn2112
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On November 20 2013 03:22 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 08 2013 23:14 Hopeless1der wrote: and thats my queue to delurk. Since thrawn posted his case on ET its gained very little traction, and no on has been willing to call me out for being afk for more than 24 hours. For the record I'm only up to page 25/45 (the game before I replaced ET) but I also read cephiro's great-wall-of-WoS-is-scum post, so thats my excuse. Regarding Koshi's recent posts...does that almost confirm him as town since scum dont get witchcraft votes? So far, I have townreads on enough of the playerbase that lynching into my unknowns (assuming my townreads are right) would win the game by sheer numbers. The top of my would-lynch list is sylencia. This is partly OMGUS for him voting ET=me and partly what he's done today that thrawn already pointed out + Show Spoiler + On November 08 2013 14:28 thrawn2112 wrote: I am still wanting to lynch Onegu but I want to talk about syl because I'd like him to be a possible lynch candidate as well. Sylencia votes for ET on day 1. He is the only person with his vote still on ET at the end of the day during d2 sylencia says this Go back and read the part I bolded. Read what sylencia says he's going to do about hopeless during D2. He comes in voting for ceph saying that all the other candidates are likely to be lynched and therefore not worth talking about. I question him about this and his response is.... oh so now it's time to ignore everything being said about ET? When earlier he said hopeless is somebody he'd "be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him" why why why does nobody see this as scummy? syl's main candidate from d1 is someone who syl says he's going to "keep in mind during the course of the day" but he later refuses to acknowledge hopeless as a serious candidate. Others on my would-lynch list are umasi onegu and sn0-man, in no particular order, with no particular reasons than that I haven't found compelling reasons to call them town so far (Again, only up to page 25/45 at the time of this post) On November 09 2013 01:10 Hopeless1der wrote: ##Vote: Sn0_Man The silver bullet insistence when there is no evidence to that statement, still trying to out blues, this unsubstantiated statement that he almost immediately retracts when called out: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2013 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote: Nobody's around or something this happened yesterday too then I get flamed because I'm afk or something. I'm fairly open to an Onegu lynch. That guy martyrs as scum all the time. I haven't identified anybody else I really want to lynch. Rayns points against ET make sense and all but at the same time if ET is scum he's successfully changed a lot of things about his scum play in the last... week. Which is eminently possible I guess, I mean I give him that much credit. OO's still scum but thrawn sez he's not so I'm not sure where to go with that one. Considering its majority lynch I don't think i'll waste anybodies time with him today. Coming up with 3 townreads is pretty hard when they can't just be the obvious candidates All point to him being scum to me. The gumshoe vote is a complete waste of time, but for the sake of confirmation bias: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2013 06:58 Sn0_Man wrote: 1 more or something lol this is awful Absolutely no thought into whether gumshoe was town or scum, just wanted a lynch On November 06 2013 07:02 Sn0_Man wrote: wat a shocker team ridiculous. Lets kill OO tomorrow. 'wat a shocker'....THEN WHY DID YOU FUCKERS LYNCH HIM? There's also this interaction with me, the moment i replace: + Show Spoiler + On November 07 2013 07:11 Sn0_Man wrote: R U scum? I half-jokingly but full-truthfully reply: On November 07 2013 07:16 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm an acolyte. I am not of The Inquisition. I am not scum. My blood is green. U haz moar questions? His response: On November 07 2013 07:21 Sn0_Man wrote: Either u read the whole thread in 5 mins or ur checking up on the most recent page. Dunno if that means anything. I fail to see what questions I could have for you that would be relevant. Tell u wat. As you read the game, Pay attention to OO and tell us why u think he was the NK For whatever reason, Sn0 feels the need to take the piss out of me for being a little cheeky in response to his rhetorical question. It feels wrong that he is insinuating that I'm "something" simply because I hit F5. Is that not a common thing for replacements to do? Also, deferring any read of OO onto me, in addition to insisting OO was a silver bullet target. On November 13 2013 12:08 Hopeless1der wrote: @Sn0 Like what, pray-tell? Do I get my own personal edition of "(OMGUS-read) makes up shit!" (previous installments include WoS makes up shit Parts 1 and 2) Are you sure you have read the thread? I've been saying you and Syl for a long time, basically from the moment I replaced (and caught up). I know I backed off syl for a bit but that was before a)koshi flipped and b) rayn gave Umasi a greencheck I will not consider voting the "other person" unless thrawn and rayn decide to go after syl instead of you(/me) today. @Thrawn what, having no reads and running around chasing my own tail? Aside from a slight diversion for thinking syl was too dumb to be scum, I've been consistent and assertive in stating who I think is scummy and who I want lynched. Furthermore, the consensus comes down to scum being Sn0 + (Me/Sylencia). So, while I can appreciate that you are not able to verify my role PM, my attitude of "lol game solved" is absolutely appropriate given the knowledge that I would be expected to have.(or pretend to if I were scum). I will concede that I have not been proactive about getting my scumreads lynched so I'll have to get to work on that. Sn0_Man To start with, do you recall Sn0's "Onegu matryrs as scum" debacle? I've spoilered the relevant quotes. + Show Spoiler + The bolded red in this quote On November 06 2013 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote: Nobody's around or something this happened yesterday too then I get flamed because I'm afk or something. I'm fairly open to an Onegu lynch. That guy martyrs as scum all the time. I haven't identified anybody else I really want to lynch. Rayns points against ET make sense and all but at the same time if ET is scum he's successfully changed a lot of things about his scum play in the last... week. Which is eminently possible I guess, I mean I give him that much credit. OO's still scum but thrawn sez he's not so I'm not sure where to go with that one. Considering its majority lynch I don't think i'll waste anybodies time with him today. Coming up with 3 townreads is pretty hard when they can't just be the obvious candidates The next whole quote belongs in an IHOP On November 06 2013 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote: Last game I gave him a townread for something and he said stuff like "don't give me a townread for that" and shit. Maybe not full martyr but the mindset is the same. Its "Would scum throw away "towncred" like this? Would scum call attention to themselves like this? Of course not". Its how Onegu plays. I'll admit that I often get the same vibes from his townplay and in general I have real difficulty reading Onegu, but I'd argue that that makes him a serious liability to have moving into the late game. And he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town. I mean, if he IS town, then he wants to die so we should oblige him and solve that questionmark. If he is scum, then we lynch scum. It feels like the right move right now. Besides what townie ever self votes except in frustration? This wasn't frustration it was "look at me I'm so cooperative and want town to win" yeah right. Note the emphasis on Onegu martyrs AS SCUM all the time On November 09 2013 01:11 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm not insisting retards, I'm trying to figure out. I retract nothing, onegu martyrs and plays the "no-defence" scum style all the time. Now see his response when I tell him to PROVE its a SCUM-ONLY trait for Onegu + Show Spoiler + On November 09 2013 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote: Quotes, filters and alignments for the games in question. You wanted to lynch the guy. Prove he martyr's ONLY as scum and NEVER as town. On November 09 2013 01:18 Sn0_Man wrote: Well you aren't reading. I say he does it as both alignments. I've played with onegu as town and scum multiple times. He plays very similarly as both alignments and he's always the last scum to die. I've lost to his scum. If other people think he is scum, I am going to lend weight to their arguments because I have no reason to believe otherwise. But he JUST finished saying Onegu is scum because he martyr's as scum. Now he's saying Onegu martyrs as town as well. Then why in the hell is Onegu a scum-read? btw, from Onegu's filter with regard to this issue: On November 09 2013 01:19 Onegu wrote: This is the first time I have martyred as town, and I dont martyr all the time as scum I think I have only done it twice as scum and I never self voted. ...from Onegu's own mouth. He has never martyred as town before this game. Now he could very well be mistaken, but I'd like to believe Sn0 is full of it rather than believe that Onegu misunderstands what martyring is. So there's that issue fleshed out more thoroughly. I touched on this in my earlier case on Sn0 which is spoilered here if you'd like to re-read it: + Show Spoiler + ##Vote: Sn0_Man The silver bullet insistence when there is no evidence to that statement, still trying to out blues, this unsubstantiated statement that he almost immediately retracts when called out: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2013 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote: Nobody's around or something this happened yesterday too then I get flamed because I'm afk or something. I'm fairly open to an Onegu lynch. That guy martyrs as scum all the time. I haven't identified anybody else I really want to lynch. Rayns points against ET make sense and all but at the same time if ET is scum he's successfully changed a lot of things about his scum play in the last... week. Which is eminently possible I guess, I mean I give him that much credit. OO's still scum but thrawn sez he's not so I'm not sure where to go with that one. Considering its majority lynch I don't think i'll waste anybodies time with him today. Coming up with 3 townreads is pretty hard when they can't just be the obvious candidates All point to him being scum to me. The gumshoe vote is a complete waste of time, but for the sake of confirmation bias: + Show Spoiler + On November 06 2013 06:58 Sn0_Man wrote: 1 more or something lol this is awful Absolutely no thought into whether gumshoe was town or scum, just wanted a lynch On November 06 2013 07:02 Sn0_Man wrote: wat a shocker team ridiculous. Lets kill OO tomorrow. 'wat a shocker'....THEN WHY DID YOU FUCKERS LYNCH HIM? There's also this interaction with me, the moment i replace: + Show Spoiler + On November 07 2013 07:11 Sn0_Man wrote: R U scum? I half-jokingly but full-truthfully reply: On November 07 2013 07:16 Hopeless1der wrote: I'm an acolyte. I am not of The Inquisition. I am not scum. My blood is green. U haz moar questions? His response: On November 07 2013 07:21 Sn0_Man wrote: Either u read the whole thread in 5 mins or ur checking up on the most recent page. Dunno if that means anything. I fail to see what questions I could have for you that would be relevant. Tell u wat. As you read the game, Pay attention to OO and tell us why u think he was the NK For whatever reason, Sn0 feels the need to take the piss out of me for being a little cheeky in response to his rhetorical question. It feels wrong that he is insinuating that I'm "something" simply because I hit F5. Is that not a common thing for replacements to do? Also, deferring any read of OO onto me, in addition to insisting OO was a silver bullet target. I'd like to add to this, why is he upset that I answered his question? Was I not supposed to see it? Like...what exactly was the "town" response he was looking for there? Ignoring him completely? His post in response to me is just noise and reaches no conclusions, as usual. Next, something Thrawn pointed out in blue, and obviously the relevant scum association in red: You know...I could write something up, but I'd much rather you, the reader, go into Sn0's filter, hit All and then Ctrl+F for 'Vanesco' and 'syl'. Read each quote up to the 7th time each name crops up (So ctrl+F 'vanesco', read quote, hit next, read quote etc. until instance #7 then repeat for syl). Let me know if you found the statement in red from the above quote convincing. In fact, here is his filter, already set to 'All' mode. Okay, so you did that right? Checked his filter out? Good, now go ahead and open the spoiler. + Show Spoiler + There was not a whole lot of reasoning for Vanesco and I'll be damned if I saw anything concrete about syl, but you can be sure of one thing: Sn0 said On November 11 2013 16:12 Sn0_Man wrote: Something something weekend something something not at all convinced vanesco is scum. ##Vote: Vanesco I'll attempt to show up pre-lynch since I feel like syl's a better one but majority etc. A better lynch to be more precise. i.e. calling him scum. So how come he later on says On November 13 2013 05:27 Sn0_Man wrote: Yeah u changed avatar now we can't be Templar friends I wasn't leaning scum on syl because there wasn't memorably scummy things in them. Syl is part of a large group of people who play very forgettably as town or scum as far as I can tell (Umasi too only he's town this game). Syl went kinda pants on head D3 though. Is calling the towniest person in the thread scum intelligent as either alignment? I'd argue not... How'd I come through all that without a certain scum? ugh. Still working on it or something. Sn0 LITERALLY said he thinks syl is a better lynch than Vanesco. In what universe does that not equate to a scum read? How many times has Sn0 made a waffle and on how many players? It'd be one thing if he was pursuing leads on a scum read, but again, Thrawn you already hit this point:+ Show Spoiler + On November 13 2013 07:13 thrawn2112 wrote: snoman like every single post you've made today has been something like words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words but on the other hand words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words null tell or nvm Its not just today though...its everything he's done all game. The only thing he was consistent on was OO being scum. Oh, and that OO died to a Silver Bullet. Because scum-reads are most likely to be elected as blues and then shot by the witchhunter in Sn0_Man's head. wat. Obviously, I'm a little confirmation biased, so I've spoilered the following statements from Sn0's filter that left me wondering what the hell is he doing? + Show Spoiler + On November 13 2013 07:11 Sn0_Man wrote: PS Theres 0 fucking way koshi is shot if i'm scum I think. wat? + Show Spoiler + On November 13 2013 07:15 Sn0_Man wrote: Every post i've made has been legit. Nobody reads them though because you all have scumreads on me for no fucking reason. The fact that I haven't solved the game 100% is PROOF IM FUCKING TOWN since we are at MYLO if i'm scum I just ahve to commit to 1 mislynch and win. READ VANESCO PLEASE PPS: i voted thrawn for blue last night. Blue can claim see my above post. If you did soem retard shit like hiding then fuck you how's that help solve the game. wat + Show Spoiler + On November 13 2013 07:28 Sn0_Man wrote: I want to lynch Hopeless and Syl. I don't really care which since they are both scum. Rayn could be (that suspicion keeps getting stronger) but I'm ignoring that since even if he is there must be another scum out there. Literally nobody else can be scum (I have a green pm, you can't be scum, thats the entire thread). The only good reasons I have for them to be scum (apart from EchelonTee and vanesco tag-teaming shit like pushing you day 1, voting me d2, etc) is process of elimination. Any point you can put on me (too lazy to scumhunt) applies to hopeless in fucking spades. Syl has been off in lala land all game apparently thats more townie than having fun with the game d1[*], doing my best to discuss onegu day 2[**], actually voting for scum d3[***], etc... You guys are all so out of touch because scum kept whispering "sno is scum" in the thread till people believed it for NO REASON. Koshi himself said (and he's conftown) that I afk most weekends you can't lynch me for that. Note how he got killed because Koshi was the single person most against my lynch in the whole thread. * i.e. Nothing. p.s. I replaced in Day2 ** Remember how he martyrs, all the fucking time? u gaiz? he so martyr ***+ Show Spoiler + On November 12 2013 00:32 Hapahauli wrote: Vote-Count: Day 3 Vanseco (6): Thrawn2112, Umasi, Koshi, Sn0_Man, raynpelikoneet, Hopeless1der Sn0_Man (1): Vanesco, Cephiro (1): Sylencia Not Voting (1): Cephiro Currently Vanesco is set to be lynched! 5 votes are needed to lynch. The deadline is in @ Monday, Nov 11 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). Make sure to PM your ONE witchcraft vote to both Blazinghand and Ange777 by the deadline. + Show Spoiler + On November 13 2013 07:29 Sn0_Man wrote: PS by scum whispering that I mean Onegu and ET/Hopeless unless that isn't clear. On November 09 2013 07:00 Blazinghand wrote: Onegu the Acolyte has been elminated! where is the effort in WC2? I mean look at this shit: On November 11 2013 07:35 Hopeless1der wrote: sorry thrawn I cant bring myself to give a shit right now...this setup should probably be invite-only from here on. I don't think you can count what he did during mylo because mylo of that game and D1-D2 of this game are completly different scenarios. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 19 2013 17:33 Blazinghand wrote: WHAT ABOUT GRACK also don't lynch rayn jesus christ I'm not moving on this, it's not because he was lynching you it is about how | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Holyflare: Alright, I've never played a mayor game before so I'm a bit aprehensive at the moment, don't want things to go wrong later in the game. I'm liking supersoft a lot more now though. I've played 1 or 2 games with him and I did a lot of reading in those games around him and he is now looking like the town SS I played with in hogwarts (I was scum and killed him because of that). Holyflare: His dickish behaviour was also demonstrated in town games and not so much scum games. I voted him before he said anything to do with mocsta because he looked the most townish and one of the most likely to be shot, he also was open to people giving ideas on who to be shot. One of his choices later was mocsta who I was most comfortable with being lynched. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
[QUOTE]On November 20 2013 03:15 Koshi wrote: I am voting for BH because he is scum.[/QUOTE do me a favor. go read my mason logs with BH and pretend you're me [/QUOTE] I feel like BH plays his own little game as scum: "how can I stay alive with the least effort?" Pro's: he doesn't give information away about his teammates. con's: he gets lynched. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On November 20 2013 03:17 thrawn2112 wrote: do me a favor. go read my mason logs with BH and pretend you're me I feel like BH plays his own little game as scum: "how can I stay alive with the least effort?" Pro's: he doesn't give information away about his teammates. con's: he gets lynched. TL+ Member | ||
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