TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 182

On November 20 2013 00:09 OOHCHILD wrote:


what makes him scum if he's scum?

There are AT LEAST 7-8 reads where Oats has been calling actions null and putting a stopper in the discussion because of it. It looks worse when you find out that the first read he gave, without being told to give a read on that person was (excluding the random VE IS SCUM OMG!) post is on mocsta. His read? The total wishy washy thing in the spoiler above... maybe town/maybe scum.... Does he elaborate on mocsta again since then? Hah, of course fucking not. He posts this:

I think i'm going to go hardcore for mayor in a bit and mocsta/rayn would be my choices of lynch because I don't want to do what VE is doing and lynch into lurkers

On November 20 2013 00:47 Oatsmaster wrote:

yeah because I didnt agree with their TOWN READS. Come on HF.

On November 20 2013 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A question for everyone:

Does Holyflare's posts in D1 suggest he was doing this?

On November 20 2013 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why are Mattchew and Hopeless not any more his scumreads?
He had strong meta-reasons (which he never explains) to think they were scum, suddenly he has three completely different scumreads. Why? Because Blazinghand is going to get lynched and scum can give out any scumreads they want. He doesn't seem to be thinking BH is scum, because he voted for Oats, and then for BC. He does not try to convince people into lynching in who he thinks is scum. "Blazinghand can die but i don't actually think he is scum so i put my vote on somewhere and i don't even care on which one of those three people". Of course he doesn't fucking care because they are not gonna get lynched. He's not doing anything to lynch scum, again.

On November 20 2013 01:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I presume you believe BH to not be scum then? If BH is and HF is too, he'd want to actually put in effort to steer away the conversation from him. If HF is but BH isn't, then why would he even bother trying to sway the lynch when he can just do nothing and watch as town lynches a nonscum?

On November 20 2013 01:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF could've come into the thread, placed his vote on BH, make some read someone else already made and left again and be totally fine. Instead he put himself out there with three cases and has started an effort to get someone else lynched. I look at those actions and see it as a townie thing rather than a scum thing. Perhaps he intended to become mayor but saw that it was hopeless. Perhaps he still has scumreads on mattchew and hopeless but considers the cases less strong than the ones he has. Your accusations are flimsy at best.

On November 20 2013 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

BH's alignment has nothing to do with this. Anyone who comes in thread now and says "lol just lynch BH kthxbye" should be looked into N2 and later on because if BH is scum everyone voting for him now is not a reason to not play and find other scum.

Holyflare seems to be believing BH is town, at least that's what i get from his posts. Is he trying to save BH? Why not, if he thinks he is town? Like if you compare his behavior to thrawn's there is a significant difference. HF just drops his vote on Oats, when asked (why Oats over BC) he says "lol i can vote for BC too" and switches his vote. Does this look like he gives a shit about anything? And because he does not clearly give shit about anything (he knows BH gets lynched no matter what - and does not even try to push any other lynch while thinking BH is not scum) he can give out any reads he wants.

If i was scum and knew player X would never get lynched by my effort i could make 1000 cases on X if they were just not good enough to get X lynched. That's what i see HF doing, he is not trying to get anyone lynched. It's just what he did in Hogwarts, bussed to some extent so he was "right" but never really voiced his opinion so that it mattered.

On November 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:

The problem is the cases do not make sense. He has apparently dropped his top 3 scumreads (me/Mattchew/Hopeless) and has three new top 3 scumreads. Why? Where is the thought process on those? I see none from his mason chat, i see none from his thread posts. He just "read some filters".

On November 20 2013 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The case on Oats is mainly from D1. Why was Oats not his top scumread on D1?