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On November 19 2013 05:26 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 05:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 19 2013 05:10 supersoft wrote:On November 19 2013 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is supersoft doing nothing and not even reading the thread? I am going to report you. You asked me this TWICE now. TWICE! in only a few minutes. I haven't read any filters yet. I have a life and I don't spend 24 hours in this thread posting oneliners. Your filter is unreadable. Your filter has the length of an average newbiegame. I read my filters yesterday evening for about 2 hours of my valuable time. I came up with mocsta as my final lynchtarget and in the night i read through filters and found Oatsmaster, who i am highly suspicious of. I am creating more useful stuff than anyone else here. I am organising the game. Look what I did at the end of d1. Everyone was analysing and we had a PERFECT town atmosphere. Now look what you did to the thread! It's a MESS! Think about that! please! I am going to read through BH and others. But not when you expect me to. I was the one that actually made the case on Mocsta, don't go taking credit for that. I didnt read your shit. And you weren't even close to get elected and kill him. So I keep my credit okay?
Then you're shit for not reading the thread, and you didn't kill him either unless you were the vigilante which you aren't since you asked who it was so you don't get shit either. Now get the fuck out until you have something useful to say so the people that actually read the game can play.
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So BH is a mason too? SO MANY MASONS!!!
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supersoft may i ask you what are you trying to do?
How does that help anyone if you are town? rly?
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On November 19 2013 05:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
So BH is a mason too? SO MANY MASONS!!!
No he's probably not. I assumed he might be.
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Rayn SS was basically mayor since VE was afk, and he wanted to lynch Mocsta. That's pretty evident enough.
He also has done analysis, his mason with me was very good and he gave thoughts on lots of people. Stop harassing him
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Rayne it's different because that was a mini
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Also the vast.majority of yours are d2 .
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:/
Like, as far as confirmed masons we have what?
?????? - the guy who masoned me (??? to you - I have a name to put here)
LoneMeow - guy who masoned Yamato
Skanjab1s
And claims we have
BH - thrawn claims BH masoned D1
Pandain - claimed mason D1, masoned SS? I think?
And non-claimed masons that exist (who could maybe overlap with the above? Maybe?)
???????? - guy who masoned my mason (??? to you - I have a name to put here)
???????? - guy who masoned austinmcc
And I'm probably even missing some. There's scum in there, there almost has to be. But yeah I think maybe we lynch based on analysis rather than try and limit the lynch to the masons trying to find scum that may or may not exist.
Sooooo many posts.  Ooooh woooooe is meeeeeee.
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On November 19 2013 05:40 Pandain wrote:
Rayn SS was basically mayor since VE was afk, and he wanted to lynch Mocsta. That's pretty evident enough.
He also has done analysis, his mason with me was very good and he gave thoughts on lots of people. Stop harassing him
So where are both of your scumreads?
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Your story does not add up Pandain.
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rayn i literally have a bullet and i will shoot you if you dont stfu not even lying
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On November 19 2013 05:57 OOHCHILD wrote:
rayn i literally have a bullet and i will shoot you if you dont stfu not even lying
I literally have bombs on 2 scum so i don't care <3
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I disagree that Mocsta acting differently then he does to normal scummates means much. At most you can say it's different, you can't draw a scum read from that alone.
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Mocsta and I coached a game together for newbies. Going to give some relevant quotes he gave since he was coaching scum
The top 2 lynch candidates are both town. Do you really need to do these shenanigans?
I would consider instead to cast shit on the people that led the lynch onto the two town wagons (hopefully they arent scum) --- > setting them up for lynch day 2.
That is solid advice.
My extra bit is:
(1) Identify the core issue that town has with you.
(this should be clear from the case)
(2) Come up with a reason for this behaviour [You can ask us for advice here - to be frank, I havent read the game since the NK]
(3) PROVIDE A COUNTER-CASE.
Its all good diverting attention; but you need to give town another bone to pick with. This is essential; and is the quintessential hallmark of strong town play.
"Im town you idiots... this is the guy you should be focusing on"
And most improtantly this
Also, I disagree that GGTemplar should help SagaZ. [But that is because Me/Pandain play scum differently. There is no right/wrong; just a matter of preference]
In my opinion: if SagaZ looks like being an imminent lynch, Templar needs to jump on that wagon ASAP to retain that town status.
The key to this (if you choose to go this path) is to not mull over alternatives too hard.. this will make the bus look obvious.
The best way is to have a case on somebody else, and you keep saying.. well Saga could be scummy; but this guy <insert whoever> is DEFINITELY scummy. I have to vote for the best chance to flip scum. etc etc.
If possible; GGTemplar comes out first with counter case; and SagaZ should counter-case on somebody else (or again, will look like team work)... If sagaz looks real bad, maybe counter case on Balla (which will make balla look better post-flip)
He advocates bussing but never outright bussing. Others have said he has never bussed before. I agree he would not bus Grack in this case
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Grack was trolling and considered suspicious by a number of people in the thread - and based on his general demeanor in the thread, it seemed like he was hoping others would latch onto the wagon/suspicion (which is what I would expect in the case of a town-Grack). He didn't seem super interested in reaping the credit for a Grack case (which is what I would expect in the case of a bus).
I think Grack comes out looking better, not worse, after Mocsta's flip.
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I actually think Grack is town, regardless what mocsta said about him.
Grack switched his vote on me when I said i'd lynch mocsta. At this point of time, i was one vote away from mayor.
+ If VE would not have shown up, i would have killed mocsta.
That move would have been incredibly risky if Grack really was scum. Remember, Mocsta was a 2 shot Vig. No scumteam wants to sacrifice their 2 shot vig. That doesn't make sense.
Just read this.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275¤tpage=104
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can't believe we're still debating over grack, he was obviously town ever since mocsta's flip. dis game is slow
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I _still_ have an issue with Oatsmaster:
+ Show Spoiler +First piece of evidence:On November 15 2013 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 02:27 yamato77 wrote:
My mayor campaign is simple.
If I'm town, I'm the best townie in the game and am obvious choice to lead the D1 lynch.
BloodyC0bbler
VisceraEyes
Mig
Coagulation
supersoft
BlazingHand
I see yamato. I see. Pregame. Ingame he votes Yamato for no good reason and doesn't partivipate at the discussion! Second piece of evidence:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster&view=allone million questions, no follow-ups. Only oneliners, no opinions on anything. Questions are mostly pointless. If he has no serious notes, he's scum Third piece of evidence:
This line of posts seem extremely fake: On November 15 2013 21:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
nah yeah I think VE is town.
On November 16 2013 22:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
What super?
How do you tell the difference between town and assassin?
Also explain Mig being scum, Im thinking he is town now actually. On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
what the fuck VE.
What the fuck.
I dont think VE cares about lynching scum now.
On November 17 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
WHICH MEANS HES THE ASSASISN
Also at least 1 mason is scum, we should lynch into the mason pool and all the masons should claim tmr morning with their reads on mason buddies. WHAT? why does that mean he's assassin? Why doesn't that mean he's scum? Ah i know why. Because Oats slipped terribly. VE isn't scum and he knows that!
Fourth piece of evidence
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432880&user=Oatsmaster¤tpage=2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Oatsmaster¤tpage=2
On November 15 2013 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
looks the same to me.
yeah. I think so, too
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432504&user=Oatsmaster
huge difference: Posts with actual content in between the massive amount of oneliners. See for yourself guys.
On November 18 2013 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know what SS wants me to post. but thats basically how I play every game. Good job SS, you managed to show that I play consistently with my other games.
and this is a lie.
Fifth piece of evidence:
His defense:
On November 18 2013 13:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also I like how nobody mentioned me until SS and suddenly Im everyones top scumread. Namely Pandain and Hopeless. Hopeless is the most scum.
ad hominem
On November 18 2013 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 14:02 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 18 2013 14:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im sorry what hopeless? Why am I scum? Can you put it in your own words? A few sentences? And say how you are different from me.
I dont understand how Im full of shit. Explain that too.
Why am I scum? Explain that first please. You havent done jack shit and you sheeped SS's case on me without bothering to rephrase anything. Rephrase the points you agree on Hopeless.
more ad hominem.
And most important: He doesnt try to explain each point individually. He just takes the weakest point of what I said about him - the oneliners - and says he does that every game.
No explanation why he voted Yamato,
No explanation why he thought VE was assassin and not scum.
And finally, even his defense was a lie, since he doesnt play like this every game.
OATSMASTER is scum!
##vote: Oatsmaster
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+ I am not convinced that BH is scum. I skimmed his filter in hogwarts, and yes looks kind of similar. But his towngames don't look much different either. He's a good policylynch because of his shitty fakeclaim but yeah: I want to give him another day, we can lynch him when VE activates the doublelynch d3.
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