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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 17 2013 23:11 GMT
#2581
Yeah the Kush4mayor stuff was pretty unacceptable, puts Pandain in similar boat with Grack IMO.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 17 2013 23:12 GMT
#2582
On November 18 2013 08:07 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:55 Koshi wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:47 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 18 2013 06:29 Koshi wrote:
On November 18 2013 06:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi, you mentioned Storrzerg a few times as scum and have not given any reasoning for your scum read.
On November 17 2013 00:59 Koshi wrote:
I could see Storrzerg being scum. I was not impressed when we talked earlier. But rayn lynch is better.

On November 17 2013 01:46 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Koshi


I don't support your reads.

Skanj4b: nha
Pandain: nha just isn't playing
hiro protagonist: Did nothing at all so nha.
Grack: Disappeared. also nha. Not today.
Oatsmaster: where is the case? Why?

What is it that differentiates Storrzerg from other lurkers?

His first scumread was Mattchew but when I pressured him about he he didn't know what to say.

Koshi my gut did the same thing. Look at my pleas with the guy.

Point me towards it pl0x

Roughly pages 3-4 of my filter, sprinkled between 2-5. But that is basically reading the whole thing.

The only thing I see is a bird that looks tasty with cranberry sauce.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 17 2013 23:13 GMT
#2583
Nightkills will be cool. Maybe we don't have to kill rayn tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 17 2013 23:14 GMT
#2584
On November 18 2013 08:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 08:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:55 Koshi wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:47 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 18 2013 06:29 Koshi wrote:
On November 18 2013 06:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi, you mentioned Storrzerg a few times as scum and have not given any reasoning for your scum read.
On November 17 2013 00:59 Koshi wrote:
I could see Storrzerg being scum. I was not impressed when we talked earlier. But rayn lynch is better.

On November 17 2013 01:46 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Koshi


I don't support your reads.

Skanj4b: nha
Pandain: nha just isn't playing
hiro protagonist: Did nothing at all so nha.
Grack: Disappeared. also nha. Not today.
Oatsmaster: where is the case? Why?

What is it that differentiates Storrzerg from other lurkers?

His first scumread was Mattchew but when I pressured him about he he didn't know what to say.

Koshi my gut did the same thing. Look at my pleas with the guy.

Point me towards it pl0x

Roughly pages 3-4 of my filter, sprinkled between 2-5. But that is basically reading the whole thing.

The only thing I see is a bird that looks tasty with cranberry sauce.

THAT BIRD IS A CHUPAZI

IF YOU EAT ONE OF THOSE YOU WILL DIE

Because it's a freaking vulture lol
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 17 2013 23:16 GMT
#2585
On November 15 2013 12:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:39 Mattchew wrote:
i think VE is town,

that is all

You have a really poor show this game but it is better than nothing.

Explain your read on VE since "that is all" is tough to swallow. "Gut read" is an explanation albeit weak.

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 17 2013 23:17 GMT
#2586
On November 15 2013 13:56 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 13:06 Mattchew wrote:
On November 15 2013 13:03 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss.

Pandain looks better than he did early game, but grack is still being a useless fuck and is in the same category as hiro.

Super is more belligerent than I've ever seen him and also overall not seemingly invested too much into the actual game. His start to the game was rocky at best and he came under fire for it rightly so. His response was to OMGUS and insult the people calling him out, and then never to commit fully to any reads.

Mig's one post was pro town but it was essentially meaningless. Of the "conversation" Moc talked about, this is the most interesting aspect because Mig never followed up on the question or offered his own thoughts. Perhaps he is a generally lurky player, but I expect better if he,s supposedly a vet.

Oats and VE are my two solid town reads. Everyone else either hasn't posted at all or isn't posting anything I find alignment indicative.

If anything anyone could say particularly indicated "town" everyone would post that every game. Which is why there isn't such a thing.

Yamato's post here highlights that nicely and I wanted to take an opportunity to point it out.

That being said, I take it personally as a failure to ditch my meta and will continue under that assumption. I will prove my alignment, and I will not be lynched. If I am lynched this game I am absolutely at a loss to improve. This statement should not indicate my alignment as it is WIFOM.


Coag who do you want for mayor and am I swinging BH?

thought you were scum
now i dont

Is it all gut sir.

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 17 2013 23:17 GMT
#2587
On November 16 2013 10:00 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 09:33 Mattchew wrote:
mattchew is town

i lean town on storr too

Alakaslam is scum

Are you going to lynch me based on that?

This sentence, and the one before it, are lies.

Are you going to lynch all liars?

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 17 2013 23:19 GMT
#2588
On November 17 2013 03:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 03:04 Mattchew wrote:
BC grack OOH can all die. BH too but not for alignment reasons

Matthew for the love of being listened to

WHYYYY?!??!?

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 23:19 GMT
#2589
BH needs to get lynched tomorrow.

The fact he's just started to get really active at night doesn't prove anything actually. Scum or town BH would start being active now.

Instead it's more important to realize he has been effectively afk during the thread with no real thread presence except defending himself and that is pretty unacceptable. His tracker claim is absoltely awful play as town and okay play as scum.

He varies between being active and always posting whenever he's mentioned and then not posting at all besides. Which is pretty suspicious to me.

While I'll agree the claim makes sense compared to his previous crumbs, he claimed 6 hours before mayor lynch would even be decided. Which doesn't make sense from a town perspective who wants to win, who wouldn't claim a blue role unless he was then going to do something with it.

BH claimed tracker and then didn't do anything with it except with his defense. This contrasts with his Heavyweight claim where he did claim early(did he? Can't remember how early) and then he pushed and used his town prescence to get a scum claim. BH's claim doesn't make sense from a town perspective.

Him defending his claim actually makes it twice as worse.

He comes back night one and then has a scum read on Grack. Great. okay
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 17 2013 23:19 GMT
#2590
There
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 17 2013 23:19 GMT
#2591
Hmm. We were talking about Mattchew?
I was talking about StorrZerg.

I would say Storrzerg = scum.
Mattchew = Lurky lurk lurk
I had a good night of sleep.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 17 2013 23:24 GMT
#2592
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Stutters695

This is unacceptable and is also a pretty good lynch.
Don't say that this is always Stutters play because he played damn better in ##. And he said he was going to lurk alot in his scum game with me when we were both scum.


The part for BH that I can't get over is that he justifies his claim which is the main force certifying my scum read of him.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
November 17 2013 23:25 GMT
#2593
It was the right time to claim and I stand behind it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 17 2013 23:26 GMT
#2594
On November 18 2013 08:24 Pandain wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Stutters695

This is unacceptable and is also a pretty good lynch.
Don't say that this is always Stutters play because he played damn better in ##. And he said he was going to lurk alot in his scum game with me when we were both scum.


The part for BH that I can't get over is that he justifies his claim which is the main force certifying my scum read of him.


can you link to where he said that?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 17 2013 23:28 GMT
#2595
I have absolutely no idea why anyone would think Storrzerg is scum. I think he looks really townie.
table for two on a tv tray
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 17 2013 23:28 GMT
#2596
On November 18 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
Hmm. We were talking about Mattchew?
I was talking about StorrZerg.

I would say Storrzerg = scum.
Mattchew = Lurky lurk lurk

I'm saying the difference between me and Storrzerg regarding Mattchew is simply that I am less visceral and more reserved with my reads.

I don't see a reason to base Storrzerg scumminess on that alone, and if you continue to do so after this point that will make me lend credence to your own detractors.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 17 2013 23:30 GMT
#2597
On November 18 2013 08:24 Pandain wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Stutters695

This is unacceptable and is also a pretty good lynch.
Don't say that this is always Stutters play because he played damn better in ##. And he said he was going to lurk alot in his scum game with me when we were both scum.


The part for BH that I can't get over is that he justifies his claim which is the main force certifying my scum read of him.

You have plenty of bull to answer for yourself before I lend you much credence.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 17 2013 23:30 GMT
#2598
On November 18 2013 08:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 08:24 Pandain wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Stutters695

This is unacceptable and is also a pretty good lynch.
Don't say that this is always Stutters play because he played damn better in ##. And he said he was going to lurk alot in his scum game with me when we were both scum.


The part for BH that I can't get over is that he justifies his claim which is the main force certifying my scum read of him.


can you link to where he said that?

Yeah he did that in Noir.
I needed to basically force him to post.
table for two on a tv tray
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#2599
Tomorrow we lynch Koshi

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2013 23:43 Koshi wrote:
supersoft
Do you really want to be Mayor? Your first post:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:59 supersoft wrote:
okay okay okay, i think we need to elect me for mayor. Otherwise it's yet another game where i pass away n1.


Your second post is you trying to stir up Yamato/VE who were at that point the most active posters in the thread that also wanted to be Mayor. The same second that you posted this you should have known that they would be mad. Why did you post this?
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

Oats said that you search for confrontation and are able to read people after that? But to me this looks like plain old shitting up the thread for no reason at all.
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

Yeah, super's mafia.


oh god, you're reatarded.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:21 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

This is false. Please address the post where I explain what my reasoning for not liking your statement actually is.


On November 15 2013 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

Fuck this. This is garbage.


You mean this peace of wisdom???

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:24 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

Yeah, super's mafia.

Not so fast super-friend. super is an arrogant ass regardless of alignment. We must continue to observe. Patiently.

super's not this bad as town, is he?

super does stuff like say controversial stuff to see how people react. Is it bad? Who's to say? I'm willing to write him off as arrogant and observe others. What do you think of Oats and his blatant lies? Typical non-reading-shittalking? Or something slightly more sinister?


Write me off and "observe others"
you're pretty dodgy.

...

You enter the thread claiming that you need to be elected. But instead of gathering support you are shitting up the thread and annoying the living shit out of VE and Yamato. Why? If you want to be elected, wouldn't it be better to play nice with these 2?

Btw, what is your read on VE and Yamato atm?


I don't like this first attack at all. Koshi implies that SS is scum for shitting up the thread and insulting other players but this is just standard SS play. I don't think even Koshi understands why he is calling SS scum. He decides that SS is not really trying to get elected, and that he is scum because of that, but there is probably more motivation for scum players to want to appear pro-town early and become mayor.


On November 16 2013 01:55 Koshi wrote:
Told you guys he would come back with a bang.

@BC
StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts.
Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum.

@rayn
Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy.

This contradiction is a big deal to me. The first line should imply that he is in favor of BC's post, yet he ends up disagreeing with all of his points. It's inconsistent and I think he is just making up his reads out of thin air.

On November 16 2013 04:52 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 04:43 supersoft wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:26 Koshi wrote:
On November 16 2013 03:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't have a single scumread of the following players and would like to hear from them their answer to two very simple questions:
1. Who is scum?
2. Why?
The following players are: Mattchew, Koshi (!!, already has 3 pages of filter), Storrzerg, Skanjab1s, hiro protagonist, Hopeless1der, Stutters695, Spaghetticus, VayneAuthority, Mr. Cheesecake, and BlazingHand.
Some of these haven't posted yet but I want them to tell me as soon as they've caught up.

From the vets/actives I am not a supersoft fan. I said why.
I am still waiting on follow ups/more posts from others.


So you're no fan or do you think I am scum?

I just find it odd that you were such a friendly fellow in Hogwarts who was more in the background helping around. It was only after you died N1 that I found out that you were a vet. This game you entered the thread elbows forward and smacked down VE/Yamato and started the early shitfest between you people.

Don't know if it is scummy. But it isn't ideal at all.

I mentioned this earlier, I don't like the phrasing in this post. He seems afraid to outright accuse Supersoft, but he still wants to cast suspicion on to him.

On November 16 2013 05:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 04:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:53 Koshi wrote:
Also, I have it always a bit harder in the start of a game. Especially big games.

lol in Aperture you were like confirmed town at this point of the game.

Yeah and in Noir I didn't do jack shit till the end of Day 1 and start yelling you were scum. Well, I did make a case on Mocsta about stuff. Aperture I wasn't too awful in early game. I give you townpoints for thinking about a game in which you were town.


On November 16 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 05:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 16 2013 04:32 Koshi wrote:
If I have to name a second name out of the actives it would be rayn. Like if you really really force me to name 1 more. Don't think I will be against his lynch today.

I'm glad you named someone without me really really forcing you to. I'd like to know why too though.


ctrl + f "Koshi" in rayn his filter.
I get mentioned too many times but he doesn't interact with me at all. Except for the "Koshi why do you play so weird".

Also, I am not impressed by rayn at all. His case on Holyflare is bad and he is not convincing anybody that Holyflare is scum.

Once again I think Koshi is playing scared. Earlier he said that he might be ok with lynching Rayn, and then as soon as Rayn accused him, he started giving him townie points for absolutely no reason. He also rushes in to Rayn's filter and searches his own name and tries to use that as a point against Rayn.

After that exchange insists several times that Rayn has to be scum for having a weak case, which isn't terrible reasoning. I don't like how much he uses the fact the people aren't listening to him to point towards him being scum. That is terrible reasoning.
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 00:39 Koshi wrote:
Rayn

Let's start with the 6 names rayn just gave us as his scumreads.

Holyflare : rayn made a case on Holyflare nobody understands or nobody supported. But for some reason rayn believed that people supported his case when he was discussing with me earlier. This so so strange because rayn hates it when people don't listen and follow his cases. rayn is scum and doesn't give 2 shits about his case.

Koshi : Started with townread on me, gave me scumread after I made a case on ss and dropped it. However, rayn doesn't know that he is giving me a scumread for that himself it seems as I asked him about why I am scum earlier and he couldn't reply. It is very strange for rayn to not let the thread know why somebody is scum. Especially when he would think and be able to prove I am scum because he can point out why I am scum pretty easily.
(PS: I am not playing afraid, hesitant or restricted this game. Does somebody believe that? Maybe you should ask proof from rayn) (PSII: rayn saying I am scum while I am town makes me bitter)

Sharrant: rayn has had a scumread on Sharrant since Sharrant made the conclusion rayn is scum while it should have been town. Pretty sure that is the same reason why rayn thinks Holyflare is scum. It's just weak, and silly. But could come from town rayn this one. But it's just silly that nobody knows why Sharrant is a scumread from rayn unless you read that 1 post about him.

supersoft: For the same reason I think supersoft is scum (disruptive townplay). So yay for us. I still got a scumread after I made my case on ss though.

Pandain/Grack: Both these names shouldn't be on rayn his list. rayn is confident in reading Pandain so he should be sitting on null till Pandain posts. Grack is scum because he is useless? town rayn ignores useless people if he has 4 scumreads in which he strongly believes.
_________

What I want to point out to everybody that scum rayn is still a very active player, it will always look like he is figuring out the game, scum rayn does this because he needs to come in and be able to take control when it is needed. So while it looks like he is atm playing the game and figuring out alignments I want to show you that he isn't.
The people that played with a town rayn before know that when rayn is figuring somebody out and starts to have a very strong scumread on this player he makes sure everybody in the thread knows about this. He will repeat constantly why somebody is scum and will try to convince people that he is right in every way possible. therefore, it is really important that you guys note down that rayn hasn't tried to convince any of the possible Mayors why he is town and or push his reads upon them. The 1 towngame rayn played like this would be Aperture but I do not believe this is a repeat of that.


Lynch rayn. I am certain that he is the best bet for scum.


When he writes a case on Rayn his reasoning falls short.
-Who cares if people ignore his case. That doesn't make him scum. I also don't see him not caring that people disagree with his case.
-He says I am afraid. lol you are afraid.
-He thinks Sharrant is scum. But he could do this as town.
-He has the same SS read as me.
-He says he is good at reading Pandain and that Pandain is scum. he should wait longer. (?)
-Town Rayn ignores useless players - (I don't know if this is true and I don't actually remember Rayn spending too much time pushing me.)
On November 18 2013 04:01 Koshi wrote:
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On November 18 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:55 Koshi wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Koshi apparently is not interested in playing this game. Wonder what taht means.

Am I scum again?

Well i don't know why are you posting here now if you are notinterested in telling people who is scum and why and you are not interested in discussing anything. Idk, should i think you are town for it?

Scummers are
Yamato, VA, Storrzerg and yourself.
The other 2 are within lurkers.


Town Koshi is try hard. Koshi's filter this game is completely devoid of reasoning; he makes up scum reads as he goes along through the thread. He's given no reasoning why VA is scum. He's given no reasoning why Storrzerg is scum. He's given no reasoning why Yamato is scum. He's mentioned all of these people being scum several times throughout his filter before.
Koshi isn't town.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#2600
i also support grack scum btw
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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