EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 132
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:43 Pandain wrote: 1.If you don't think there's a tracker when masons stack with other roles and there are 30 people...; I mean it's possible but very unlikely esp. since suicide bomber would invite roles like tracker existing 2. It's poor play but people do it all the time. See doctors counterclaiming doctors and roles counterclaiming roles. Hell I did it but it was okay because Mason is less important. If BH has your mindset, then it's even worse play as town because it doesn't really confirm him and yet better play as scum because no one will counter-claim. Aaaand I disagree. I swear I am not swinging on the balls of BH, but there is no implication to BH based on possible poor play of others. At least not in a big game like this, in my opinion. I can see where you are coming from but I disagree. What were you thinking trolling with Grack? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:45 Pandain wrote: I do not like at all the timing of BH's claim I agree with this though. Seems he wasn't ingame optimally at all. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Buncha masons doesn't mean there are ANY roles. It might mean this game is ONLY masons as power roles, balanced between town and scum, and nothing else needs to be there (I feel like there's been one or two games with a ton of a single role, i THINK it was mason too). Trackers would usually be in games where other people have night actions. I would expect trackers to counterbalance cop/doc/vigi/RB, because you want trackers when you have mafia night actions. Trackers don't care about no masons. There may be times where folks counterclaim and find out there are extra docs/cops or whatever, but this is DAY ONE of a semi-open game with 30 something people. I agree that we can all play poorly, but I dunno about someone randomly "counter"claiming tracker just because BH randomly posts some stuff and claims tracker. Seems farfetched. At the very least, I think you're making a LOT of assumptions to get to a point where you can say "If A, then X, if B, then Y." You're relying on so many assumptions about tracker numbers and blue behavior, just to get to a variety of possible conclusions. That seems muy shakioso. Where that's spanish for very shaky. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I think it's impossible BH is tracker. And a town BH claiming does invite other people claiming I'm sorry but that is a fact and BH has played enough games to know that. And why would he fake-claim to get people off of his back when there are better ways (aka using a vote on VE, arguing for VE). I don't like how he's been active but poorly active throughout day one, and he's had time to play and yet played like he didn't. It's easy for a busy scum to justify his play by being busy; it's remarkable how town who are busy still have ways to contribute | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:49 Koshi wrote: btw. I haven't commented on this but pretty sure BH his claim is 100% fake. Maybe you should make the case on me before the night ends because if you don't i think you should be lynched if i die. Also noone knows why you think i am scum. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
I can agree with gracks early play being terrible. I can agree and have said i can agree to many of your lynch targets. My issue is i don't feel your push on any of these guys as an alignment push from a town bc or a mafia bc. As far as who between us has more town reads or scum reads, I don't see how this matters in the slightest. As far as diverting anything that could save your life, if your town im sorry. I don't feel you deserve to be saved for the reads you have gave. You stated earlier something along the lines of "Make us earn our mayor spots" I think the same could be applied to medic saves. Austin helped explain the situation about calling out medic saves, and i can understand that now. At the time, with how i felt about you leaning mafia, and what SS said, it felt wrong. I still feel your leaning mafia. That post did nothing at all to change my mind. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
His responses have not been in his favor. Didn't rayn make a fake-claim as scum in witchcraft? Haven't you guys learned? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe you should make the case on me before the night ends because if you don't i think you should be lynched if i die. Also noone knows why you think i am scum. Pretty sure I wont die. And if I die people know. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:53 Koshi wrote: Pretty sure I wont die. And if I die people know. That's not what i said. I said you should be lynched in case i die if you do not make the case. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:52 StorrZerg wrote: @BC I can agree with gracks early play being terrible. I can agree and have said i can agree to many of your lynch targets. My issue is i don't feel your push on any of these guys as an alignment push from a town bc or a mafia bc. As far as who between us has more town reads or scum reads, I don't see how this matters in the slightest. As far as diverting anything that could save your life, if your town im sorry. I don't feel you deserve to be saved for the reads you have gave. You stated earlier something along the lines of "Make us earn our mayor spots" I think the same could be applied to medic saves. Austin helped explain the situation about calling out medic saves, and i can understand that now. At the time, with how i felt about you leaning mafia, and what SS said, it felt wrong. I still feel your leaning mafia. That post did nothing at all to change my mind. Use quote Storrzerg that came out of the wild blue sky and I can't tell what you are talking about | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote: Hmm. We were talking about Mattchew? I was talking about StorrZerg. I would say Storrzerg = scum. Mattchew = Lurky lurk lurk why? do you have reason? or did i just miss your post | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:54 Alakaslam wrote: Use quote Storrzerg that came out of the wild blue sky and I can't tell what you are talking about http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275¤tpage=129#2572 My bad here.. needed to take a bit before answering it... | ||
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OOHCHILD
United States570 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:54 Pandain wrote: Rayn this is why I don't mason you because we never agree on anything anyway. I think there's plenty of things to come out of pushing BH, BC and SS agrees with me that BH is sketchy, why don't you listen to them if not me? Because i do not think they are necessarily town. And i do not think BH's claim makes him anything. I am not saying you are not allowed to call him scum, but you have focused on his claim for like latest 20 posts of yours. It's useless because his claim does not make him anything. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:56 OOHCHILD wrote: woulld scum bh really fake claim tracker? seems unlikely would, but more likely town BH would claim or fakeclaim tracker. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On November 18 2013 08:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's not what i said. I said you should be lynched in case i die if you do not make the case. Pretty sure you wont die. But if you do I will be a sad panda tomorrow. | ||
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