TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 12

On November 21 2013 10:11 Risen wrote:
Would rather lynch supersoft or Austin over grack but I'm lynching grack on policy not read.

On November 21 2013 10:28 Risen wrote:
Super is probably scum so...

On November 21 2013 12:47 Risen wrote:
Some things happened during N1. Namely SS logs not being posted immediately when asked to.

Spontaneously would mean you saw the question and immediately posted them. Which did not happen.

On November 22 2013 06:46 supersoft wrote:






this is your case, right?
I posted the MasonQTs too late. Nice catch, sherlock

On November 22 2013 06:56 Koshi wrote:
I like those 4 names.

On November 17 2013 05:08 BC wrote:



Of that post I still strongly suggest grack or storr. I know i've more or less sank my teeth into them and won't let go but since gracks reappearance from what ive seen in the last few hours hes done nothing to really prove hes town aligned. He could be an assassin, or mafia but no way in hell is he town. Storr as much as I suspect has given me enough to not want him dead currently but it all comes down to his reappearance.

kush is kush. I like offing him purely on principle but I don't think hes particularly bad so far this game. I can see his hesitance for voting for me purely on previous games together.

Hiro, coag and hopeless are all lurkers. They are all safe lynches. They may flip red they might not, but they are safe in the sense they aren't contributing much and what they have hasnt been particularly useful or good. Risen I am currently unsure of. Hes had both good and bad posts.

On November 17 2013 05:08 BC wrote:
I really really really don't like onegu atm.

He didn't make a good impact upon entering the thread and imo concentrated on all the wrong things.

as a note VE's strongest reads atm (mirrorish my own)

Grack, storr, rayn risen.

On November 17 2013 05:08 BC wrote:
risens vote confuses me to be sure, but ill take it.

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 22 2013 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
I also want to know who you rb'd the following days after oats, if you thought oats was delivering the nk why didn't you block him over and over again??

On November 22 2013 07:30 austinmcc wrote:
Who here is active and thinks BC is town?

I want to maek chat.

On November 22 2013 07:32 austinmcc wrote:
maek = make. Sorry. Stupid accents don't come out well in text.

You are mainly unsure about BC because of your D1 mason chat, yes?

VE, Oats, and SS are all town currently in my books and anyone harassing them for anything other than their aggression needs their head examined.

On November 17 2013 07:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
read time

Grackeroni

I have already harped on this guy. nothing has changed, at all. He hasn't posted anything groundbreaking, he hasn't attempted to really help the town in any way. Given that he has shown no compulsion to help even after being called out, I see no reason to think hes town.

Storrzerg
My read here has altered slightly in that I still think hes red, but he could end up being town. I am moving him to a null read given that if he keeps posting like he has been I am willing to say my initial read was wrong

Hiro
He has 0 content to his posts, insanely inactive, and i know hes capable of doing more than he is. Its possible hes just busy, but ive seen the guy lurk as red before and skate by on minimum posting standards as such I am keeping him to red until he proves otherwise

Blazinghand

The guy is fucking retarded. He is inactive for 24 hours, busts out with a shitty campaign post spouting horseshit, says hes gonna catch up and post then proceeds to have spotty play. He doesn't post any reads, he still defends bad play, he even then when called on it and sees his name up for a possible lynch claims tracker with the worst possible bread crumb in the world. He has done nothing useful whatsoever. I expect far more out of him than what he has given.


I do think at this point barring weird fucking circumstances i can confidently say

Supersoft, VE are town, yamato and artanis i have strong leanings on being town.

On November 20 2013 07:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Jesus fucking christ. I come home from work, after attempting to clear myself of tunnel vision and instead of finding a thread filled with happy bunnies and butterfly style of posting I get retardation at its finest. Seriously. What the fuck happened in the last few years that made people who trolled, actively played against win cons, etc... that this is considered town play and also acceptable play? Jesus.

Mattchew has done fucking nothing all game but spout bullshit and vanish into the mists. Is he being discussed for it no? Why the fuck would you, people who've been playing the game for years are allowed to do retarded shit and be ignored.

Holyflare has also done nothing fucking all game. He is harrassed for ages about not doing shit all then makes a giant post on 3 people under huge suspicion. He then goes to vote for one who apparently wasn't his top scum pick. He actively says so. Since when is lurking, only posting when pushes/analyzed, posting analysis on 3 top targets of the day, and then NOT VOTING FOR HIS TOP SCUM READ FUCKING TOWN PLAY.



That fucking logic? A guy is caught in thread, LYING ACTIVELY, trolls for days, actively doesn't help and rather than realize that scum would go "fuck this guy". BH is a Vet player. If he was town he'd have at least done something. Dropped analysis, dropped a bombshell of something to try and save himself. Is he doing that? No he gave up. But don't worry. Scum would actively not bus a teammate who got caught out completely in thread just to spare themselves 1 kp. Dont worry guys, Holyfaggot has figured the game out!

Dear fucking god people.

Hopeless1nder. Why has no one really talked about him? The guy fucking does what? Nothing? Ever? Wanders into the thread, a wild hopeless1nder appears. He uses dickall and peace. Its apparently super effective. Why? Because hes being ignored completely, not posting shit all, and skating by for it. However its not like I can blame you fucks for it because we have people who are allowed to troll/spam/be utterly useless pieces of trash cluttering the thread.

Grackerfuckingroni. You know what. Im not going to bother to make a case on this fucker. Hes scum. If any of you can name 5 fucking things hes done all game that have helped this town then Ill change that view. Seriously. Find me 5 points where he helps. The guy since being "confirmed town" has done absolutely dick fuck to help anyone. He has actively said hes not going to stop trolling ie hes going to continue being an unhelpful piece of trash. Hey though, TL towns know that being a town member is about being retardedly bad so its ok!

Pandain. Go fuck yourself. You are actively viewing me as scum for the most bullshit logic I've ever heard. If you don't realize the reasons you were told what you were was specifically because of my read of you then your fucking stupid. Seriously.

Alakslam doesnt contribute really anything. He doesn't justify his current vote at all, hell his vote swap went completely unnoticed. Hey its ok tho, the guy doesn't do shit all game but hug peoples coattails anyway. Im glad this shit is acceptable because thats how you get solid reads on people right? Let them not do shit at all and be ignored. Yep, good glad im learning something.

How about Risen? Whats he done lately other than to appear and jump onto a bandwagon, what did he do at all actually? Nothing, got yea. Im glad to see this shit is fine.

The only players in this game not playing like complete garbage are SS, Rayn, arguably VE and maybe artanis.

There are a few trying at least to not play like garbage. Myself in that list. However given the entire clusterfuck of this thread and how retarded virtually everyone is being, the entire scum team is likely on that list of people I just mentioned. You know why? Because town is so bloody unorganized and we currently have people trying to swap people OFF OF A CONFIRMED LIAR WHOS DONE NOTHING BEFORE OR SINCE TO A) JUSTIFY HIS REASONS FOR IT OR B) ATTEMPTING TO PROVE HIMSELF NOW.

Seriously? What motivation is there for any player to take someone they have 100% certainty is fucking scum, and goes "lets lynch someone else"

Jesus, i know ive played like ass this game, but the level of retardation going on is just fucking ridiculous.

On November 22 2013 07:37 austinmcc wrote:
EBWOP: You should have been RBed or oats should not have delivered a kill.

On November 22 2013 08:00 austinmcc wrote:
Ya. But it's public info that artanis claimed he was going to shoot BC and got RBed (i guess technically if both BC and I are mafia together then artanis could have been RBed for claiming BC and then I got saved by that AND am faking vet?).

BC has made some persuasive posts for people today. But I want to see how they feel when EVERYTHING is on the table. People keep picking and choosing bits and pieces of what someone has done, and it needs to stop. There seems to be a lot of (relative) short term memory loss, where people are making reads based off of what JUST happened and what someone JUST posted.

We got NKs, we got claimed actions, we got DAYS of posting.

On November 22 2013 09:19 Mig wrote:
Super do you get the feeling that BC is actually trying to figure anything out? I see him tunnel me I see him tunnel Grack. I don't see any actual search for information or changing reads whatsoever.

On November 22 2013 09:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


which game?

On November 22 2013 09:34 supersoft wrote:
on the other hand, man BC could be good enough to do this :D
I could imagine me doing it. I am really afraid that BC is playing me like a fiddle right now :D

On November 23 2013 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

How do you feel about supersoft saying nothing about this all in thread and refusing to post the mason logs?

On November 20 2013 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well first of all, fuck the plan. It would have been so good but it's not allowed. I was planning on using the double lynch to lynch supersoft/supersoft so we could have passed the pardoner protection from the lynch but that's not possible to vote for the same person for both of the lynches.

Anyways, here i presesent to you supersoft the mafia pardoner:

This is supersoft's to lynch -list near end of D1:

Grackaroni, Coagulation, Hopeless, Storrzerg, Hiro/thrawn, Risen, kushmasta, Pandain, and Mig (he corrected in the next post Mig is not a townread but strong scumread).

Next thing he does is he starts asking people to give +/- on those people. Some people answer, mainly Grackaroni. After some time supersoft says Pandain looks a bit better and he does want to give Mig another day, does not comment on any other of his candidates. So if we take out Pandain, the list looks like this:
Grackaroni, Coagulation, Hopeless, Storrzerg, Hiro/thrawn, Risen and kushmasta.

Then this piece of conversation happens:




Does this sound legit to you? Grackaroni, one of supersoft's lynch targets tells him Mocsta is the best lynch according to Artanis' case. supersoft does not read Artanis' case, he has admitted that later on. He just says "okay i read my top scumreads target's filter, the target is btw someone who wasn't on my lynch list earlier, and i will not even look at the ready case there is, but don't worry, i read the filter, np ezpz there still 13 minutes to the lynch". Notice that here is also when austin suddenly makes a voteswitch onto VE like Vayne pointed out.

Then here is what happens next:

8 minutes before the lynch, has another target still, wants to look into Mocsta and Mattchew (who was not on the initial list aswell).

Does he even read these filters because he has time to find new target compared to Mocsta all the time. I don't believe he is even reading Mocsta's filter because he just keeps on posting new targets instead of reading.

Here he says he'd kill Mocsta. But notice the underlined. This is already backpedalling!

Then the time is up and VE is the mayor.

Pandain says he has a townread on Mocsta.

Another move that seems like backpedalling. Notice that Pandain is also a person that supersoft at least does not think is town because a while ago he was his scumread, yet he says "hey gimme some townie points on Mocsta".


This comment screams insecureness and fear. "Do i really need to decide the lynch if VE does not come back.. fuuuccckkkk". Also notice that supersoft is supposed to be rereading Mocsta's filter, yet he has time to post every other minute. Mocsta is his top scumread (apparently), yet he is not telling VE to lynch Mocsta in case he comes back.



"OKAY I GUESS THAT'S A SOLID LYNCHCANDIDATE"?!?!!?!??! More like "phew.. i got out of this shitty situation". Fuck, Skanjabs is NOT even a scumread for supersoft. supersoft had 8 scumreads, Mocsta "#1", VE lynches outside his pool and it's a "solid lynchcandidate". WTF, ARE YOU OKAY WITH LYNCHING EVERYONE IN THIS GAME? This is fucking bullshit.

And what does he tell VE later on:

BUT HE WAS AN OKAY LYNCH WHEN VE KILLED HIM???
Of course he was a good lynch because supersoft didn't need to squirm out of Mocsta lynch!!!
Now when Mocsta is under no pressure he was obviously a bad lynch and Mocsta was so much better! rofl.

Then suddenly, OUT OF NOWHERE, this:

Suddenly there is a big scumread on someone completely different from his lynch list. No filtering for his scumreds from D1, no Mocsta, apparently supersoft dropped all his scumreads from D1, even Mocsta who was totally scum, to find BAD OATSMASTER! resoning for Oatsmaster scumread is this:
1) Oats asks a lot of questions and posts many onliners and has no thoughts - that's what Oats always does, and he has had thoughts.
2) Oats has an assassin read on VE - guess fucking what VE was?

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So yeah, as a TLDR;

• On D1 supersoft has 8 scumreads. Instead of finding a lynch in them, he listens to his scumreads and ends up on "Mocsta is scum" because his scumread tells him to look into him!
  
• Grack even provides a ready case on Mocsta, supersoft does not look that at all (keep in mind he has 5 minutes, and thinks filtering Mocsta is better than looking at the complete case).
  
• He filters Mocsta (yet he has time to post between filtering) and says "he is the best lynch" but already provides an out for himself by saying "i'm still rereading him".
  
• I don't believe he actually did filter anything because he had time to post every other minute during the lynch.
  
• I don't believe he actually wanted to lynch Mocsta at all because every post he makes during the lynch provides him an out to not lynching Mocsta if needed.
  
• He tells VE Skanjabs was a good lynch when VE kills him, after the heat is not on Skanjabs was suddenly a bad lynch
  
• After this all of his scumreads go away and suddenly there is Oats, and a terrible case.
  

What has supersoft done after this and after N1:

• Tunneled Oats for shitty reasons
  
• Acted like a baby because rayn post so much boo hoo (notice even lurkers like Hopeless are perfectly capable of posting good analyses)
  
• Said BH needs to be lynched but when he flips assassin RAGES because we should have not lynched him.
  
• Tried to take towncredit from Mocsta flipping scum (lol wut?)
  
• Did i already say acted like a baby because rayn posts so much?
  

So yeah, the only thing people can even remotely think supersoft is town is because he said "i guess i will lynch Mocsta". If someone is considered town because of one comment like that (which i have pointed out is fucking fishy in the first place) i might aswell give up this game. Everything else supersoft has done this game has been HELLA SCUMMY!

Notice also that we are talking about a guy who is supposed to be a town leader. He's fucking vet who is considered really good at this game, yet he is plaing like absolute shit, and not only shit, but SCUMMY!

Lynch supersoft the mafia pardoner on D3, let's burn his pardon down and lynch him again on D4.
Also lynch austin as a second lynch on D3.
Thank you for listening.

On November 23 2013 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:

But why is supersoft not here calling out Pandain for lying?

On November 23 2013 03:52 Hopeless1der wrote:

I...um...yes.
##Unvote: BC
##Vote: supersoft