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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 05 2013 11:38 GMT
#4101
On November 05 2013 20:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 20:35 Koshi wrote:
On October 29 2013 10:04 Seuss wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:56 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:47 Seuss wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes.

Too bad.
If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while.

You, yourself, said "yuck" to Clarity's post, and since then, he just went to play dota and disappeared? Why aren't *you* convinced given what you've posted, or at least convinced enough to vote him over OOCHILD? That's really weak, WoS.

So Clarity pushing an obviously bad case makes him scum?
I see the point you make regarding he should know he's bad and not push it, but I posit that it's entirely possible that, you know, he wouldn't be pushing a bad case in the first place if he was scum because it looks like shit and would cause these problems for himself.

I agreed with your 'yuck' I am not convinced it's bad-scum.

And yet you're convinced enough that OOCHILD would make himself blatantly voteable by doing absolutely nothing and posting shit? That's more convincing to you? Ok Wave.


There's a notable difference between OOCHILD and Clarity_nl, effort. It takes effort to make an argument, even a bad one. It takes zero effort to do nothing and/or post utter shit.

Correct, and scum are liable to put some effort in, whereas usually players who do literally nothing (hello nyxnyxnyx) are the townies. Pretty surprised you're making this argument given how your game went actually. The scummers in your game actually put in effort, bad effort.


I have unshakeable faith in the lurker policy lynch.

I'm probably just biased because the lurkers in that game really made it a hair-pulling experience. Their presence was always looming in the background whenever I tried to make sense of anything, and it frustrated me (especially because it turned out they were all town, ugh). But you're right, there's a logical disconnect between "God lurkers are horrible and should all die" and "lurkers are scum and should be lynched".

On October 29 2013 10:21 Seuss wrote:
On October 29 2013 10:07 marvellosity wrote:
As long as we're clear, Seuss, that you're policy lynching and not actually aiming for mafia.


Yeah. I honestly don't find OOHCHILD scummy or worth a lynch, but I voted for him and didn't say that aloud because I was hoping he'd feel pressure and post.

Isn't this kinda claiming that he won't leave his vote there? These are the 2 posts Seuss made right after voting Kush. Seuss is actually not pressuring shit. He just leaves vote there for a second.

He only said these things under significant pressure from me to explain his vote

Yes, and do you see how he is already making sure you don't pressure him more when he removes his vote? He is already giving reasons to move off Kush.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 05 2013 11:38 GMT
#4102
On November 05 2013 20:37 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 20:36 Koshi wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:47 Seuss wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as.

I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential.
Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv.

I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes.

Too bad.
If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while.

You, yourself, said "yuck" to Clarity's post, and since then, he just went to play dota and disappeared? Why aren't *you* convinced given what you've posted, or at least convinced enough to vote him over OOCHILD? That's really weak, WoS.

So Clarity pushing an obviously bad case makes him scum?
I see the point you make regarding he should know he's bad and not push it, but I posit that it's entirely possible that, you know, he wouldn't be pushing a bad case in the first place if he was scum because it looks like shit and would cause these problems for himself.

I agreed with your 'yuck' I am not convinced it's bad-scum.

And yet you're convinced enough that OOCHILD would make himself blatantly voteable by doing absolutely nothing and posting shit? That's more convincing to you? Ok Wave.


There's a notable difference between OOCHILD and Clarity_nl, effort. It takes effort to make an argument, even a bad one. It takes zero effort to do nothing and/or post utter shit.

damn I forgot this one. This was the first post after his "pressure" on Kush.

He already starts saying Kush made more effort than Clarity.

no it's the other way round

Ah damned. You are ruining my tunnel.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 05 2013 11:38 GMT
#4103
no, it's the other way round like i just said

the effort = Clarity's case on Oatsmaster, I remember the context clearly

if I die you need to get these things right
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 05 2013 12:01 GMT
#4104
Based on Seuss alone, Oats+s&b look like the likely candidates.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 05 2013 12:14 GMT
#4105
Does rayn have the balls to send that nuke to Oats? Nothing was wrong for scum at that point.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 05 2013 12:15 GMT
#4106
Yes, that's a good question and one I've asked myself quite a bit, never came to a satisfactory answer one way or another.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 05 2013 12:16 GMT
#4107
Do you think that once the nuke is sent, rayn could delay it? Or is it before that you had to send the nuke?
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 05 2013 12:18 GMT
#4108
I don't think delay came into it.

The issue is this - if the nuke IS real and hits Oats as town, rayn really looks terrible. To other people, not just me.

rayn is really well known for being able to read Oats.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 05 2013 12:18 GMT
#4109
arff. rayn showed face protecting Seuss. I almost can't believe he would send a nuke to Oats.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 05 2013 12:19 GMT
#4110
On November 05 2013 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think delay came into it.

The issue is this - if the nuke IS real and hits Oats as town, rayn really looks terrible. To other people, not just me.

rayn is really well known for being able to read Oats.

But if they can secure a misslynch the game is won. It would be 4 vs 4 after NK. (If it is 9 vs 4)
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 05 2013 12:20 GMT
#4111
I don't think it's an unreasonable gamble that it wasn't real. Can't decide though.

The thing is, it doesn't make sense for rayn to nuke Oats *regardless* of Oats' alignment if he thinks the nuke is real, if you see what i'm saying
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 05 2013 12:20 GMT
#4112
Or even without NK and nuke on Oats it is 5 vs 4 and they got Kush that can block Pandain and Seuss that can minus a vote from one of us.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 05 2013 12:21 GMT
#4113
On November 05 2013 21:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think delay came into it.

The issue is this - if the nuke IS real and hits Oats as town, rayn really looks terrible. To other people, not just me.

rayn is really well known for being able to read Oats.

But if they can secure a misslynch the game is won. It would be 4 vs 4 after NK. (If it is 9 vs 4)

i don't think 9-4 is going to be the setup
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 05 2013 12:22 GMT
#4114
Hey hey marv, so Im fakeclaiming my role?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 05 2013 12:23 GMT
#4115
I think rayn knew the nuke was fake though, why would his be real but the rest fake?
So its just a plan to seem crazy as shit. Town rayn crazy as shit.
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 05 2013 12:27 GMT
#4116
But he was America America.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 05 2013 12:33 GMT
#4117
On November 05 2013 21:27 Koshi wrote:
But he was America America.

Bingo! Made a thought breakthrough

Sentinel isn't scumbuddies with rayn, all the nukes are fake, it literally makes no sense that only mafia get a real nuke, therefore rayn knows the nuke is fake.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 05 2013 12:37 GMT
#4118
On November 05 2013 21:33 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 21:27 Koshi wrote:
But he was America America.

Bingo! Made a thought breakthrough

Sentinel isn't scumbuddies with rayn, all the nukes are fake, it literally makes no sense that only mafia get a real nuke, therefore rayn knows the nuke is fake.

Yeah, the fact that Onegu didn't fire that Nuke is somewhat indicative they knew. As in 100%. Which makes me doubt if Sentinel is either town, or scum and knew that the nuke were fake.

VA needs to explain his sentinel read tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 05 2013 12:40 GMT
#4119
Yeah true actually Koshi. Why bother firing a nuke when you know its fake.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 05 2013 12:40 GMT
#4120
The long and short of it is, it didn't take rayn any balls to fire his nuke at Oats.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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