JAT claims to have shot LoneMeow. There is no CC.
So it's Cephiro or raynko.

Lynching into Hufflepuff is silly atm. Imo the cop is scum or Cephiro is scum.

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 23 2013 21:37 GMT

#3619

On October 24 2013 06:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'd go with: Ceph investigated rayn, learned about his candy giving role, tried to fake-claim it subtly.

This is what he said:
He investigated us, said he got only our role name. Somehow he knew we had candy as power. I asked him about it, he said "it's obvious given your role name". Then, later on he revealed that it was also an affiliation check.

So he claims to be an role-name&affiliation cop and have guessed our rolepowers name.

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 23 2013 22:09 GMT

#3640

On October 24 2013 06:45 Hopeless1der wrote:

Show nested quote +

I ctrl+f'd your filter for "candy". The first instance is ceph's quote, where you proceed to tear him a new one for stealing your case. Have you mentioned your role at all in the QT or to anyone in pm's/masons or anything else? How did ceph know about the candy?

No to all questions.

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 23 2013 22:33 GMT

#3648

So Cephiro is looking to all other possibilities but the one where the house cop is lying (which is the most obvious one if he is town). hmm....

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 23 2013 22:47 GMT

#3650

On October 24 2013 07:41 Cephiro wrote:

Show nested quote +

.... Because I have a greencheck on him? -__-

So the only possibility with the framer is that i was framed, right?
Why could scum not frame the house cop on N2?
Why is this not a possibility?

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 23 2013 22:48 GMT

#3651

Especially when you have crumbed your check on D2... *sigh*

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 23 2013 22:57 GMT

#3653

When Cephiro flips scum next thing to do is to lynch Grack who called my reads D1 - N1 awful.
I had 3 scumreads and they were Cephiro, ET and Pandain.

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 23 2013 23:18 GMT

#3657

On October 24 2013 08:01 Cephiro wrote:

Show nested quote +

I don't consider that Matt was framed a possibility because he's being modkilled for out-of-game communication. Scum wouldn't get modkilled for that.

I also said that it is possible that I got framed N2. Or then you got framed N1 (falsifying my check), or N2 (falsifying matt's check to one scum), or I'm not a sane cop.

How on earth does framing you affect to your checks?

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 24 2013 00:06 GMT

#3675

Why is Grackaroni so hesitant to give opinions.
By his posts i must be scum, but hey, let's lynch somewhere else and/or wait for syllo to say what to do.

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 24 2013 00:14 GMT

#3677

On October 24 2013 09:09 Grackaroni wrote:

Show nested quote +

I wanted to hear about the part where I called your day1-night1 reads bad. Tell me more. I didn't say you must be scum. I said you could be scum. If you are town I am thoroughly disappointed with your play.

I am a bit puzzled on how you can be disappointed in my play?
I called 2 people out on D1. Cephiro and ET. On N1 i told our QT that Pandain is scum.
I have not played at all on D2 (or very little). On D3 you call me out for my bad reads. Especially me. Not the hydra, but me, rayn. It was pretty clear the comment was pointed to me.

I am going to dig the quote up when it's time to make a case on you. Right now it's irrelevant because we are lynching Cephiro.

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 24 2013 00:42 GMT

#3680

On October 23 2013 07:44 Grackaroni wrote:
The thing is that he oftentimes "nails" those scum by accusing everyone in the game.

This is the quote.

After this you try to cover it up by saying this:

On October 23 2013 08:22 Grackaroni wrote:

Show nested quote +

yeah but those are the reads that will show up post game. Not the Day3 reads of Me/JAT/Mattchew which are probably all wrong.

The problem is i hadn't given out those reads on you/Matt/JAT before you made the first comment.
Therefore you can't possibly say my reads are bad as you did in your first post.

TLDR;
"rayn's all reads are bad because he asccuses everyone"
"i ahve only accused scum if Cephiro is scum"
"yeah but these D3 reads are bad" (they were not there when Grack made that argument)

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 24 2013 00:54 GMT

#3686

So why is everyone wanting to lynch outside me/Cephiro? It's a 50% chance of hitting scum. For Cephiro, if he is town, lynching me would be 100% and he is hesitant to lynch me.. lol..

I do not believe there is a framer. Given that the only check we know of is a house check, which means framer is incredibly powerful, as instead of hitting one person, it hits a most of 6. If a check says "there is X scum in house Y", what happens when there are 3 people left in the house (see our house atm). We lynch one. They turn up town. We lynch another one. They turn up town. The last guy must be scum. They turn up town.

Framer role would be indredibly BS, there is no way there is a framer.

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 24 2013 00:56 GMT

#3690

I also do not believe Cephiro is telling truth about his power. He says he gets more powerful.
He has checked me on N1, he has checked Matt on N2. Where is the "getting more powerful" part?

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 24 2013 00:57 GMT

#3691

And that's all cephiro has done this game. Zero scumhunting.
He's just flip flopping around his role.

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 24 2013 01:04 GMT

#3697

On October 24 2013 10:00 Holyflare wrote:
Either the cop is lying and is scum (not likely because of the modkill event) or there are no scum in hufflepuff and the framer made a guess or there are scum in hufflepuff and they are dumb.

Or Cephiro is scum and there is no framer and there is scum in hufflepuff?

I agree with your statement on the framer regarding N2.
I know that if Cephiro is town, i was not framed on N1.
JAT is pretty clearly town as he shot scum.
Therefore the only explanation is that Cephiro is scum.

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 24 2013 01:07 GMT

#3699

On October 24 2013 10:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Can I see the rest of the case now Rayn? The thread really seemed to take to the first part. Also, comment on Skanjab1s.

You use BS reasons to discredit people. You did the exact same thing Golden Sun. You are arrogant and cocky in a different way than you are as town.
As i said, i don't need to make a case on you now, we are not lynching you.
Why do you want to distract the thread from today's lynch`?

-rayn

raynpelikonoshi

Cayman Islands1087 Posts

October 24 2013 01:13 GMT

#3704

Mocsta.
Cephiro has a green + rolename check on me from N1.
From N2 there is a house check that says there is 1 scum in Gryff.
People who are alive in Gryff at that point:
Cephiro
raynkoshi
JAT (shot scum)
Vayne (flipped green)

In case there is no framer shit there must be scum in me/Cephiro.
I do not believe there is any sort of framer shit.
I also do not believe the cop is lying (because of the modkill shennies)

-rayn