Hogwarts Mafia - Page 137

On October 22 2013 11:27 Holyflare wrote:
By the way, who are the people cephiro has a coin on?

On October 19 2013 00:47 Skanjab1s wrote:


Classic "why me?" scum defense.

I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable. His sheeping onto Cephiro is not the most pressing concern to me at the moment. You are much more interesting, baby.

On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote:


I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing.

I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now.

On October 22 2013 05:00 Skanjab1s wrote:


Yeah ill vote for stutters, CRay looks like he will contribute mo'

On October 17 2013 23:55 Skanjab1s wrote:


Tunneling is my style. Reading into things is the way I roll, baby. I do not let off my scumreads because they "could be valuable" or because they are vets.

On October 22 2013 06:06 Skanjab1s wrote:


In retrospect, the things Stutters was doing were not scummier than what I posted on Yamato, I do not even know why I switched, but alas these are the things that made me think Stutters was scum:

> Coming out of nowhere with just "Ceph is not town, because his role". Not offering any further insight into his scum read on Ceph

> Says that as town, he doesn't just coast by (which he was doing). Then says that he is an infrequent poster, but as town he makes his thoughts known. As I've just said, he wasn't making his thoughts known at all.


> Him telling someone to read the summary of Ceph's actions in the qt, but then someone else pointing out that there was no such summary, made me think that he was just saying it in thread to make it seem as if he was contributing, at least in his QT.

Those were the things he posted that gave me scumfeels.

On October 22 2013 11:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Skanjab1s

Skanjab1s writes a case on Yamato and pushes him in the thread early day1. Eventually Yamato disappears off his radar.


When questioned by Sn0 Man, "why'd you drop your longstanding tunnel on him for no reason?" He says that Yamato's reaction to the case was satisfactory meaning he no longer had a scum read on him or wanted to lynch him.

On October 22 2013 11:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Final reasoning for vote switch is terrible. He had actual reasons to believe Yamato was scummy and they were much better than his reasons to lynch stutters. Skanjab1s didn't even mention Stutters before his last minute switch. Also his reasoning directly contradicts what he said earlier.




he was very confident in Yamato being scum and I don't think he could have been as confident in his read on stutters based on the reasoning he put out.

On October 22 2013 11:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Beyond all of that other reasoning I don't believe for one second that him showing up in the thread in the last minute was mere happenstance. He wanted Stutters to be lynched but he didn't want to risk losing the town cred from pushing Yamato so he waited it out without posting thoughts in thread that may look bad on him later. I can see the secret vote and him voting doesn't exactly line up but these situations can be very chaotic and scum teams don't have perfect organization.

On October 22 2013 12:38 Skanjab1s wrote:
I hate how you people put forward the "him showing up last minute was not a coincidence" as though it is a fact, it is quite annoying. I've already responded to all of these points, but ill keep going.

As I've stated, yamato's reaction was not satisfactory, I assume that the reason I said it was is because I was focusing on pushing Sno_man and didn't want to get pulled off track.

For these points, you assume that if I am town I would play in a perfect pro-town way, which is just not the case. It was a mistake to change the vote from my long standing scumread yamato, to stutters, but that is what I did. While it was not the optimal/logical play, it doesn't make me scum, just town with a lapse in judgement.


Like I said, I was reading the thread for the hour before, and only finished very close to the deadline. You even say that the secret vote + my after-deadline vote doesn't add up, but still try to reach for an explanation that would make me scum. Surely my scumteam would have mentioned that they were going to use a secret vote? I highly doubt that if I were scum I would be taken by surprise by it, it wouldn't have had to be perfectly organized either, I'd just have to look at the 6-6 tie and know that stutters would be lynched.
Also, although this is no consolidation at all, for future reference perhaps, as scum I'm a bit more selfish, I wouldn't jeopardize myself to save a teammate.

On October 22 2013 12:55 Mocsta wrote:
Skanjab
Did u find grackwron case to be a genuine effort?

On October 22 2013 13:02 Grackaroni wrote:
There is a lot of scum motivation for you to stay out of the thread. If you come in beforehand and say you want to switch to stutters and Yamato is lynched you lose all of the town cred you could have gotten. If you you post beforehand that you still think Yamato is scum and continue to push Yamato then you increase the chance of losing Yamato.

On October 22 2013 13:05 Skanjab1s wrote:

The point on me not being in the thread is a matter of perspective, really. You see it as me purposely staying out, whereas it is actually me only finishing reading the thread close to deadline. There is not much that I can say to change your mind on this.

On October 22 2013 13:15 Grackaroni wrote:

What can i say. It's hard for me to believe that you just happened to make a mistake where you vote Stutters with bad reasoning. (CR could be useful) - already contradicted earlier in filter. And that you just happened to show up at the end of the lynch and that your stance on the player you tried to move the lynch off of switches back and forth based on your interpretation of the same information. And when you give your reasoning for Stutters being as strong of a scum read as Yamato it's self-admittedly weak and it's clear you didn't even read through his filter/misinterpreted his posts.

On October 22 2013 13:21 Mocsta wrote:
I just reread slytherin qt.

After lastargument died. Skanjab instantly wondered if anyone thought stutters could be scum even though he was masoned to marv.

Bh instantly replies. Role != allignment

Point is. Did skanjab do anything to flesh out this read?
I'm on phone so it's hard to check filter.

On October 22 2013 13:26 Skanjab1s wrote:


(1) The reasoning wasn't CR could be useful, it was that CR looked as though he was going to do something, whereas stutters was doing nothing at all, and showed no sign that he would start doing anything.
(2) Again, your interpretation is that I "tried to move the lynch off" of yamato, when I actually just preferred to lynch stutters. (bad move, yes.) I was fine with either lynch and was having trouble deciding between them.
(3) My stance on yamato doesn't switch back and forth, I think he is scum, why I stated that he reacted fine to my case I have already explained, although I think it was silly to say that.
(4) Yeah, I did not read through Stutters' filter, I didn't have time. The reasoning of Stutter's being as strong a scumread as yamato is self-admittedly weak in hindsight. At the time I did not think that was the case.

(2) Again, your interpretation is that I "tried to move the lynch off" of yamato, when I actually just preferred to lynch stutters. (bad move, yes.) I was fine with either lynch and was having trouble deciding between them.