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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 23 2013 09:35 GMT
#861
The lynch on nyxnyxnyx was town's biggest mistake of the game, town should have had it in the bag with so many good available lynches on day 2.

All the anti-town elements were suspicious, and onlywonderboy, Bereft, and Seuss were all looking good for town (from what I read)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 23 2013 11:35 GMT
#862
On October 23 2013 16:29 playerboy345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 11:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
Although that said town would have probably been pretty fucked considering how almost everyone thought Balla was town.


How can you even think this, balla was so fucking obviously scum T_T

Oh and my coaching QT is over here: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/q9B8bv8PASsm

ilu marv <3

I mean, Day 3 it sure seemed that way. Everyone was listening him when he was trying to discredit my claim on July. I was too reliant on my "town" status. Once Suess died I lost my biggest cheerleader haha.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
playerboy345
Profile Joined May 2013
Netherlands194 Posts
October 23 2013 12:31 GMT
#863
It was pretty obvious that he was scum imo.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 23 2013 12:31 GMT
#864
On October 23 2013 21:31 playerboy345 wrote:
It was pretty obvious that he was scum imo.


Didn't you think it was pretty obvious owb was scum?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 23 2013 12:34 GMT
#865
On October 23 2013 16:32 Blazinghand wrote:
I would like to take all credit for july's excellent play. Even though he's the only guy in this entire game who lost, I consider him the moral victor here

e: also "stop being a guy pretending to be a doctor and instead be a doctor" is amazing advice!



Is there an award for moral victory?

Thanks Coach ^_^ , having never played SK before you gave me allot of great advice and i couldn't have made it this far without you .

My hat's off to you blazing, thanks again for coaching me.
twitch.tv/Jjuly617
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 23 2013 12:40 GMT
#866
Seriously July, you killed all the blues and mafias. So terror
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
playerboy345
Profile Joined May 2013
Netherlands194 Posts
October 23 2013 12:58 GMT
#867
On October 23 2013 21:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 21:31 playerboy345 wrote:
It was pretty obvious that he was scum imo.


Didn't you think it was pretty obvious owb was scum?



Shh, noone has to know that you bastard
istandwithmitt
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil117 Posts
October 23 2013 13:00 GMT
#868
That should be a mafia win not a draw. If number of mafia = number of other players during a day that's the end of the game for mafia.

Also sorry I got modkilled. The rule that you have to vote every day is really dumb so I'm not that sorry. I was posting that day & was busy before the deadline but I still got modkilled? I don't know what that's set up to avoid because it's obviously not just people who don't post.

An okay game mod should learn how to call games in the end & fix modkill rule & maybe it would be better than okay.
playerboy345
Profile Joined May 2013
Netherlands194 Posts
October 23 2013 13:08 GMT
#869
This guy....
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 23 2013 13:19 GMT
#870
On October 23 2013 22:00 istandwithmitt wrote:
That should be a mafia win not a draw. If number of mafia = number of other players during a day that's the end of the game for mafia.


That's not how the win conditions were worded. Additionally, your suggested win condition does not work with a Serial Killer.

On October 23 2013 22:00 istandwithmitt wrote:
Also sorry I got modkilled. The rule that you have to vote every day is really dumb so I'm not that sorry. I was posting that day & was busy before the deadline but I still got modkilled? I don't know what that's set up to avoid because it's obviously not just people who don't post.


Voting is required because we don't want the choice to abstain to be a tactical decision for the mafia team. I think 48 hours is a more than reasonable amount of time. If you anticipate that you may be busy at the deadline, then it is suggested that you vote before the deadline.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 23 2013 13:24 GMT
#871
On October 23 2013 22:00 istandwithmitt wrote:
That should be a mafia win not a draw. If number of mafia = number of other players during a day that's the end of the game for mafia.

I actually posted this then edited it out because I realised I was wrong.

owb was a multi-shot vigilante and so could have shot mafia at the time he was shot by mafia.

People worry way too much about the exact wording in the OP, when using common sense to work out what would happen is almost always the right way.

The only reason there's the # of mafia = # of town rule is to rule out stupid vote races based on who's online when.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
istandwithmitt
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil117 Posts
October 23 2013 13:24 GMT
#872
On October 23 2013 22:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 22:00 istandwithmitt wrote:
That should be a mafia win not a draw. If number of mafia = number of other players during a day that's the end of the game for mafia.


That's not how the win conditions were worded. Additionally, your suggested win condition does not work with a Serial Killer.

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 22:00 istandwithmitt wrote:
Also sorry I got modkilled. The rule that you have to vote every day is really dumb so I'm not that sorry. I was posting that day & was busy before the deadline but I still got modkilled? I don't know what that's set up to avoid because it's obviously not just people who don't post.


Voting is required because we don't want the choice to abstain to be a tactical decision for the mafia team. I think 48 hours is a more than reasonable amount of time. If you anticipate that you may be busy at the deadline, then it is suggested that you vote before the deadline.


Does SK not win if he's in a 1:1 situation then? Because that's dumb.

Also I don't see any point in deterring a mafia player from abstaining. It's not like it's a good decision or something town can't see. It would be one thing to modkill someone for not posting during a day but in this situation you modkilled someone for forgetting to vote & that was stupid.

You don't have to take my criticism but all I'm trying to do is help the mod run a better a game in the future.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 23 2013 13:25 GMT
#873
This forum has run dozens and dozens of games, and we are very happy with our voting rules.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
istandwithmitt
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil117 Posts
October 23 2013 13:26 GMT
#874
On October 23 2013 22:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 22:00 istandwithmitt wrote:
That should be a mafia win not a draw. If number of mafia = number of other players during a day that's the end of the game for mafia.

I actually posted this then edited it out because I realised I was wrong.

owb was a multi-shot vigilante and so could have shot mafia at the time he was shot by mafia.

People worry way too much about the exact wording in the OP, when using common sense to work out what would happen is almost always the right way.

The only reason there's the # of mafia = # of town rule is to rule out stupid vote races based on who's online when.


Exactly. If its 2:1 town:mafia, then town isn't actually encouraged to vote for mafia nor is mafia to kill the following night in the case of a NL. That should 100% be a mafia victory.
istandwithmitt
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil117 Posts
October 23 2013 13:27 GMT
#875
On October 23 2013 22:25 marvellosity wrote:
This forum has run dozens and dozens of games, and we are very happy with our voting rules.


Cool ty for your thoughtless response
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 23 2013 13:27 GMT
#876
On October 23 2013 22:26 istandwithmitt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 22:24 marvellosity wrote:
On October 23 2013 22:00 istandwithmitt wrote:
That should be a mafia win not a draw. If number of mafia = number of other players during a day that's the end of the game for mafia.

I actually posted this then edited it out because I realised I was wrong.

owb was a multi-shot vigilante and so could have shot mafia at the time he was shot by mafia.

People worry way too much about the exact wording in the OP, when using common sense to work out what would happen is almost always the right way.

The only reason there's the # of mafia = # of town rule is to rule out stupid vote races based on who's online when.


Exactly. If its 2:1 town:mafia, then town isn't actually encouraged to vote for mafia nor is mafia to kill the following night in the case of a NL. That should 100% be a mafia victory.


What are you talking about? Town is obviously encouraged to vote in a 2:1 situation, otherwise a 2:1 situation becomes a 1:1 situation.

Literally the *only* situation that mafia does NOT win in this 1:1 situation is the EXACT situation that occurred in this game - where the remaining townie has bullets to shoot at the mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
playerboy345
Profile Joined May 2013
Netherlands194 Posts
October 23 2013 13:34 GMT
#877
Marv you are too sexy to argue with him, just stop. He can't absorb your sexiness so argueing with him is pointless.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 23 2013 13:35 GMT
#878
well, i'd rather he knew why/how things worked than didn't ^^

if he's reasonable he can query me on what i wrote
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 13:41:24
October 23 2013 13:36 GMT
#879
Opps double post
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
October 23 2013 13:41 GMT
#880
On October 23 2013 22:24 istandwithmitt wrote:
Also I don't see any point in deterring a mafia player from abstaining. It's not like it's a good decision or something town can't see.


Suppose my scum buddy is a lynch candidate and I've expressed suspicion of him in the thread. If I vote for him, he will be lynched. I can be around at the deadline and decide not to vote, pretending to be afk. Now suppose you are busy at the deadline and are unable to vote. There is no way for the town to tell whether or not I'm telling the truth about being around and they receive little information in a game that may only last three cycles. There is no way to distinguish my intentional no-vote from your accidental no-vote.

There is a grey area between whether or not a single no-vote should be a modkillable offense. Some hosts will wait until you break a rule twice, others will enforce it right away. While I don't think the voting rule should change, we should probably try to be more consistent with how it is punished.

On October 23 2013 22:24 istandwithmitt wrote:
Does SK not win if he's in a 1:1 situation then? Because that's dumb.


That's a reasonable concern in a setup with a non-bulletproof serial killer. It appears that the hosts decided that losing your bulletproof power (either by night hit or choosing investigative immunity) would force the Serial Killer to lynch or kill off the mafia/town vig before a 1:1 occurs.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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