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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 14:18 GMT
#1811
Bussing your teammate happens. But rayn was completely off the map. To bus him day 1 when there's no way he gets lynched is just dumb.

Yes, scum are dumb too sometimes (rayn is the evidence of that) but I just don't see it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 14:31 GMT
#1816
I dunno, I guess I kinda see it. He pushed me the same way he pushed rayn though.
Like, if we had lynched sloosh d1 and rayn d2 no one would be giving townpoints to risen for the case he made and did nothing about....

I guess my argument is starting to become it's anti-scum when I'm not sure there is such a thing really so I'll reread a bit first >.<

On October 07 2013 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 23:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
Bussing your teammate happens. But rayn was completely off the map. To bus him day 1 when there's no way he gets lynched is just dumb.

Yes, scum are dumb too sometimes (rayn is the evidence of that) but I just don't see it.


aren't you reading what you write?

it's the safest time to bus and look good for it.


Meh I guess my definition of bussing is different. If the bus doesnt run over the person you're throwing under the bus, you're not bussing.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 14:31 GMT
#1818
On October 07 2013 23:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2013 23:18 Clarity_nl wrote:
Bussing your teammate happens. But rayn was completely off the map. To bus him day 1 when there's no way he gets lynched is just dumb.

Yes, scum are dumb too sometimes (rayn is the evidence of that) but I just don't see it.

No, the point is, RISEN DIDNT ACTUALLY PUSH RAYN.
He just posted a case and fucked off.
Then BH and you started getting into it. And holyflare.


No, clarity was on a risen lynch. Risen voted sloosh to counteract the fact that he was the reverse wagon. When BH said we could lynch rayne who was risens top scum read (because of his case) he switched over, his post that I linked to you earlier even said why he went onto sloosh "it wasn't a risen lynch". Clarity was against a rayn lynch. In fact when I said the only other person I'd want to lynch is rayn and he said "no that definitely won't happen" or words to that effect. He didn't push rayn because he got butt hurt 24/7 by everyone saying they won't read his cases bla bla for a second time. It would demotivate anyone.

Either way, I will not be voting risen today unless there are some GLARINGLY obvious posts.


Yeah this guy is putting it better than I did.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 14:35 GMT
#1822
On October 07 2013 23:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lynch the Risen.

So who dies tonight? Im thinking Clarity or marv.


Duh
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 17:37 GMT
#1829
On October 08 2013 00:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 23:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2013 23:41 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2013 23:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 07 2013 23:35 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2013 23:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see any reasons in that statement by HF about Risen being townie

Ok HF, if you ignore the Rayn lynch, who do you want to lynch the most?



I really need to read around a bit more, but the people I will be reading are you, marv and dirk.

Why are we 3 the scummiest if we ignore the rayn lynch?
Come on HF, work with me.


why would I ignore the rayn lynch? Stop working against me

Because its an exercise to get you to think about Risen being scum Rayn didnt get lynched/was town.
Its night. Just do it.


But he was lynched and rayn was scum so what you are asking is somewhat silly.

Risen has been consistent in his case making and style. He makes long winded cases and makes them based off confirmation biased reads. He made his second case on rayn despite being told to improve on making cases. A lot of unnecessary effort went into it and thus when he was shot down again he felt dejected, this wouldn't happen if he was a scum partner with rayn would it, he asked how to improve it, agreed that he could have cut out half of it etc etc. If you're convinced someone is scum you look at everything incriminating which he did, literally everything.

The point you make about not pushing his case is the same point yo made against me at the start too. However, what I wrote above still applies. If you put in all that effort and get shot down a second time you get really really demotivated to push anything.


As for you oats, you have played what I see as the most scummy game. You didn't really push people you just agreed with points and sheeped votes. It's not until day/night 2 that you really begin to make a case on someone. The case was weak in my opinion and you're jackhammering it rather than looking objectively at other people that could indeed be scum.

Marv is a good player so I've heard, the only thing that's made me see him negatively was the BH argument vut as I understand he dislikes BH for out of game reasons. I would have liked him to leave that out of game though for the sake of making this harder. I still need to read up on his posts though because i have somewhat neglected him till now, which can be a total mishap if I've properly misread him. He was convinced sloosh was scum and so didn't do anymore scum hunting and joked at how we were trying which left me questionable.

Dirk was well scummy to start, he obviously had to pick up his posting mishap in order to appear not scummy so I'm not sure i can let him slide. I liked his case on sloosh though it looked very convincing. People have seemingly let him go free.

If i had to target someone it would be you oats


What does the bolded mean?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 19:21 GMT
#1842
I didn't push rayn at any point, I was shouting that we weren't lynching him until I voted him like 2 min to deadline
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 20:18 GMT
#1853
On October 08 2013 04:41 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 04:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oh ok my bad.

Clarity still town for basically repeating marv numerous times and also being town. Totes town.

So you admit to not reading the game or lying. Cool. At this point you're either town intentionally playing horribly because you're afraid to go back and appear scummy, or scum intentionally playing horribly and won't go back because you must stick to your meta.


Dude....
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 21:31 GMT
#1867
On October 08 2013 06:22 marvellosity wrote:
it's interesting how LITTLE rayn addresses the Dirk situation as it's happening.

only kinda comes after him when thread sentiment is moving off on to slOosh.


He did the same about sloosh though. And he was town.

I'm around but spending some time with someone over skype so not sure how much time I'll invest here tonight
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 21:35 GMT
#1869
Yeah I was thinking of risen interaction with rayn, my bad >.<
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:23 GMT
#1891
marv is town because, although he can be a dick to people as scum, he's much less likely to be. Let alone being blatantly anti-town and admitting to it. (blazing is tearing his hair out right about now I imagine)

Risen is town, too much angry tunnel to be scum, and a lot of things just don't make sense from a scum perspective.

Oats... I think he's town. Much less abrasive as scum from what I've heard (not actually played with scum oats myself). The interaction with marv d1 where he was being silly is kinda hard to fake.

Dirk ??????

Holyflare.. Starting to look way worse. Throwing dirt everywhere lately but not really coming to conclusions. Push on oats seems forced.

Time to reread before deadline! So tired though >.< Will see how far I get.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#1892
Sorry marv I thought about fake calling you scum to see if scum would kill me instead but didn't want you to waste your possible final hours raging at me
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:30 GMT
#1894
Something about dirk admitting that his vote is on someone that he doesn't think is a good lynch seems really hard for scum to just say like that.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:32 GMT
#1895
Like, scum are really self concious about how and where to drop their vote so they can cruise to the next day, right? At least I am when I'm scum.

It was the reason I stopped wanting to lynch him at the time and I think I have to stand by that.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:33 GMT
#1898
On October 08 2013 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
meh. that's not why i stopped wanting to lynch him.


So why did you stop?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:35 GMT
#1901
On October 08 2013 07:33 marvellosity wrote:
his posts sounded kinda sincere



Still seems that way in rereading him IMO
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:39 GMT
#1908
I'd like to think I am obvtown at this point.

On October 08 2013 07:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wanna bet Risen still calls me scum? Yup.

Dunno about the dirk thing clarity, it seems kinda nullish to me. What else are you gonna say if you vote someone for all the wrong reasons and get caught out for it?


Well yeah that happened but after that when he was kinda scumhunting around he kept his vote where it was and admitted he didn't want to lynch holy. His response to me saying "your vote is still on him youknow" was "yeah, so what"

And that was after marv lectured him on the importance of his vote.

Like with the way he's been passively reacting to everything I don't expect him to just say that as scum. I expect him to go " oh yeah ##unvote" or whatever.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:41 GMT
#1910
On October 08 2013 07:40 marvellosity wrote:
thing is, it's easy to make a defence of anyone Clarity.


There's not a lot of people in this game and dirk is/was a big question mark for me so I'm throwing thoughts out there.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:42 GMT
#1911
Oats dirk and holy is the group where scum more than likely reside so if I can eliminate one of those as a very likely townie then we lynch the other two and win..
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:46 GMT
#1916
He doesn't read the thread
He lies
He trolls
He didn't vote to lynch rayn
He's purposefully playing to his meta


You're saying "he lies" when what he's done is say something about what happened that is wrong, could easily be bad memory
Oats trolls as town too.
He's not the only one that didnt vote rayn
This last point is silly. How is he "purposefully" playing to his meta instead of just playing his meta, how do you tell the difference?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 07 2013 22:48 GMT
#1918
On October 08 2013 07:43 marvellosity wrote:
i feel kinda bad finding holy suspicious by default, kinda hoping reading him later will give me a decent townread on him


What do you mean by this? Process of elimination orrr?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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