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On October 11 2013 07:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
marv put it like this, pretend you're me in that day 1 lynch (you basically were, stance on sloosh/dirk/rayn was the same, only different stance on risen I think), would you have switched to rayn? Would you have done it earlier than me, even if you didnt believe in the lynch?
I had doubts on sloosh because of his deathpost yet d2 you convinced me that it's just one post among scumminess.....
I yelled for a risen lynch over rayn for as long as I could simply because I was being practical about who would be more useful, and didn't really like either one as likely to hit scum.
What would you have done differently?
these hypotheticals are slightly silly because i can't tell exactly... but... although I said on day 1 i didn't think rayn was a good lynch for that day, in a followup summary post, I called rayn and BH big fat nulls.
with rayn coming in and trolling town near lynch and slOosh's death post looking genuine, i don't think my vote would have been moving back to slOosh over rayn like you did.
I've actually had fairly strong feelings about who is mafia all day, and although I desperately want it not to be, I'm pretty sure it's you Clarity. Like I feel both terrible about it and also really good about it being you.
It's funny, you made a post a little while ago "I'm consistent as mafia" - well, that was your problem in the day 1 lynch, as far as I can tell. You were nowhere near flexible enough to vote for rayn at a time when you should have been voting for rayn. Voting a sincere slOosh over a trolling rayn is actually just inflexible. You bussed and it carried you this far, but you didn't quite manage to make the decision in the timeframe you needed to.
I also think you killed Oats because you needed to justify yourself being alive and you wanted me alive because of "mindmeld". I think the Oats kill was by "correct" standards irrational, and I think you made an error in judgement in killing Oats because you were worried how you'd appear later.
Further I think you've been casting about today not knowing who is mafia because you know none of us is mafia. At this stage of the game, Holy, Risen, and I all look very townie for hilariously different reasons, so any push on any of us looks terrible. But as a townie, I *know* that someone I had a strong townread on had to be mafia, and my gut told me it was you. In many ways you are like mini-me this game, but actually that's just a fucking indictment of how superficially, how casually I've played this game despite my enormous, shitty filter.
You've had the safety of being considered widely town, unlike me, and yet you've failed to be aggressive like it's pointed out you usually are as town.
In the end my reasons for calling you town were weakest (as holy noted) and are actually more of a damnation of my play than anything else. So there we have it.
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Well fuck.
I also think you killed Oats because you needed to justify yourself being alive and you wanted me alive because of "mindmeld". I think the Oats kill was by "correct" standards irrational, and I think you made an error in judgement in killing Oats because you were worried how you'd appear later.
I'm insulted by this.
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Further I think you've been casting about today not knowing who is mafia because you know none of us is mafia. At this stage of the game, Holy, Risen, and I all look very townie for hilariously different reasons, so any push on any of us looks terrible
You've been the fucking same -.-
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On October 11 2013 08:53 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +Further I think you've been casting about today not knowing who is mafia because you know none of us is mafia. At this stage of the game, Holy, Risen, and I all look very townie for hilariously different reasons, so any push on any of us looks terrible You've been the fucking same -.-
On October 11 2013 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I've actually had fairly strong feelings about who is mafia all day, and although I desperately want it not to be, I'm pretty sure it's you Clarity. Like I feel both terrible about it and also really good about it being you.
No, I've thought you were mafia all day.
Thing is, if I'm wrong and you are town, then one of Holy and Risen is wrong about you as well, because one of them must be town. All 3 of us have reached the same conclusion with different methodology.
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I would not in a million years bus rayn like that. Either I hop on him first or I never lynch him. You say it would make me look terrible but I disagree.
rayn was trolling but I did believe that he was drunk and not a good lynch
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If you stay on slOosh there you just indict yourself fully. That's the thing.
You don't have my handy afk excuse :p
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One person was bussing is the thing. And yours looks quite easily the worst.
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On October 11 2013 08:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 08:53 Clarity_nl wrote:Further I think you've been casting about today not knowing who is mafia because you know none of us is mafia. At this stage of the game, Holy, Risen, and I all look very townie for hilariously different reasons, so any push on any of us looks terrible You've been the fucking same -.- Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
I've actually had fairly strong feelings about who is mafia all day, and although I desperately want it not to be, I'm pretty sure it's you Clarity. Like I feel both terrible about it and also really good about it being you.
No, I've thought you were mafia all day. Thing is, if I'm wrong and you are town, then one of Holy and Risen is wrong about you as well, because one of them must be town. All 3 of us have reached the same conclusion with different methodology.
Well that's fucking depressing.
Look, I voted rayn
Other than the rayn lynch what is there? I wasn't aggressive? What does that even mean. I was happy with the sloosh lynch and I was happy with the dirk lynch, there was nothing to be aggressive about. I tried to push both of them during their lynchdays but sloosh just rolled over and dirk couldn't manage to convince me.
You really think I somehow constructed my play to sound like you or something? Like wtf
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There is no way I kill Oats. You were talking me into an oats/sloosh + dirk/risen lynch, why the fuck would I remove tomorrow's mislynch????
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Now I really hope holyflare dies tonight but I highly doubt it.
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No, I don't think you constructed your play to sound like me (I think that's a bit of a reach on Risen's part). I just think I said a lot of obvious shit and you also said a lot of obvious shit. Holy's meta points on you are actually quite decent.
You never had to deal with all the pressure I've dealt with all game, yet you've never done that much with the space.
Thing is, we can argue about it until the cows came home.
And in another game you might even convince me, if I didn't haev such massive reasons to think Holy and Risen were town. I'm just hoping I'm right.
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You were hardly pressured this game what are you even talking about.
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On October 11 2013 08:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
There is no way I kill Oats. You were talking me into an oats/sloosh + dirk/risen lynch, why the fuck would I remove tomorrow's mislynch????
why would anyone?
that's not part of a case on you, that's just my feelings on what occurred. there's no arguing for or against that bit really.
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Whatever, if marv dies tonight I'll try to fight tomorrow but >.<
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On October 11 2013 09:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
You were hardly pressured this game what are you even talking about.
Risen? Dirkzor? BlazingHand? Even Oats for a moment?
How many people have you had calling for your head?
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Day 4
The English superstar marvelosity always carried himself with both class and dignity. With the title belt on the line he took
his step forward.
Someone decided to give him a knee to the face for his efforts
marvellosity the VT was sent to sleep.
You have 48 hours
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On October 11 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 08:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
There is no way I kill Oats. You were talking me into an oats/sloosh + dirk/risen lynch, why the fuck would I remove tomorrow's mislynch???? why would anyone? that's not part of a case on you, that's just my feelings on what occurred. there's no arguing for or against that bit really.
Why would anyone indeed. But you know, at least partly, how I think and approach mafia. Oats nk is not really in my realm of possibility
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##Vote Risen
I guess I'll address his monster post tomorrow.
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Previously stated reasons.
##vote: Clarity_nl
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