Thug Life Mini Mafia - Page 294

On October 11 2013 07:28 austinmcc wrote:
We don't seem to write/think the same way. This has happened like 3-4 times over the course of the game, earlier you thinking that I wasn't quite calling someone scum or wasn't quite doing x, when in my mind I was.

I DON'T fully know. I AM unsure.

Just...remember this one for future games.

On October 11 2013 07:26 WaveofShadow wrote:

I saw some of that, but I think I have to go back and read it.
Who was commenting on the fact that Austin shouldn't still be alive, you or VE? (Or was it Rayn?)
'Cause I remember that particular point being bullshit.
I do remember Austin talking quite a bit without taking stances recently.

Give me a few hours before any hardcore reading/analysis. I promise I'll get to any thing people want me to get to later on.

On October 11 2013 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote:

I was referencing the bit where you were giving me options instead of conclusions austin...and I still attest that until I dragged it out of you, you were NOT saying that Cheese was the most suspicious. You were giving me options and expecting me to be like "Oh okay, so THAT'S who austin thinks is scum" when I couldn't have possibly gleaned that information from the info you provided.

On October 11 2013 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
It was me - I brought that up in response to some WIFOM bullshit he gave me. Feeding him his own bullshit as it were.

On October 11 2013 07:38 austinmcc wrote:
There have been a few times this game where it's popped up. Not just yesterday.

Yesterday WAS mainly thoughts/options, not conclusions. Things that I'm trying to make sense of. When I'm spammy, I'm not posting neatly packaged conclusions. And especially if it looks like people want to lynch me, my goal, as disorganized as it may be, is to just get all my thoughts into the thread. Maybe something in there is important, maybe not.

It's either all/mostly bullshit, or very little bullshit. If stuff like "he's alive" factors into your read, so should things like "his scumbuddy claimed cop, claimed scum, and austinmcc came out looking worse than anyone else in the game (apparently), why would solstice sac himself to make his buddy look BAD."

You can call it all bullshit and that's okay, but then you've got to toss things that are both for AND against me, imo. I don't think it's all bullshit. I've explained my being alive as best I can, but I don't know why other people do what they do.

On October 10 2013 02:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If I had the time, I'd make cases. My problem lies with vayne/wos buddying up, I think one of them is scum that needs to have a friend in this time of need. When I made posts about CR being possible scum, WoS jumped all over me and told me they were bad. He also tried to discredit me the entire time when s0l was up for lynch. I'd lynch him first. Vayne I'm not so sure on. I haven't seen a game of his where he didn't troll as town, and this game he's active and stuff. It's weird.

Austin is probably town because of the way he handled the s0l lynch. Like, every other person and their mother just voted s0l and fucked off. Even CR, mafia. I'm more inclined to think mafia just sat with their vote on s0l rather than make huge posts considering if Koshi was mafia or not.

On October 11 2013 08:33 austinmcc wrote:
It's coo VE, as long as you're not factoring this other stuff in.

And I know my best bet is to find other dudes. Stuff like that solstice interaction isn't something I can go "yup, here's a super townie explanation." I can give you the HONEST explanation, and can you question my lack of followup postgame/in later games/when we cuddle.

I just...usually if I get suspected as mafia it's because it's early game and i'm semi-afk or useless on D1 or something. When it gets lategame and I'm under suspicion, I get all prickly and I want to fully understand exactly why people are on my nuts. If you don't care about my D4/me being alive/any of that stuff, it's all good. But you brought that up, and then WoS got the still alive thing as the major takeaway from your posts. So...either it was a bigger factor in your posting on me than you thought or WoS needs glasses. But yeah, npnp if you're throwing out all WIFOM-y stuff except you should definitely consider all the stuff I say.

I heard your cry for help with the bear. I kinda/sorta came to the rescue OR made it worse, definitely one of the two. You can trust me.

On October 11 2013 07:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Started looking through CC's filter already because I just decided I'm way too fucking tired and lazy to go out tonight.


I don't even remember doing this.
Trying to discredit me and my wanting to lynch him I thinks.
Yup, found my conversation with him. Starts here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429897&currentpage=176#3506

Essentially I told him I found CR newbie and not bad enough as scum to direct the entire thread to the fact that he wanted to save his teammate. Turns out I was right. I wonder if his team knew Palmar was scum or not though.
I also commented on CC calling CR's posting 'consructed,' which is exactly how he got mislynched in Noire---essentially that is just how CR posts, scum or town it seems. (Though I imagine with all the bussing and going back on scumcalims, there must have been SOME construction going on in the lategame at the very least). The point there being CR did not scumslip, and the suspicion on him at the time was fine, but CR's REASONS weren't great. It look like this may have been the beginning of where CC decided to bus his team, and the bolded looks liek CC's attempt to garner towncred because of it. I suppose what I did here in this conversation could be interpreted as me 'jumping all over him' though I would consider it simple questioning. As far as me calling his reasons horseshit...they kind of are.

Gonna need to read more in-depth here.

On October 10 2013 09:12 austinmcc wrote:
If they're different teams, then solstice convinces his team that Cheese is the other team.

So we need a solstice/cr/x team where x can be convinced that cheese is mafia.

Like, unless it's mega mega next level, it makes VA look decent because VA has been calling pandain the last MCB. So if the whole thing is REAL, then solstice would have to convince his scumteam, including VA, that cheese and not pandain was the last MCB. Cuz it appears that VA would be pushing to contact pandain.

I think CR or WoS is the last MCB, but if I were scum I'd be on CR's team. So I'd be pushing for WoS and solstice would be pushing cheese, if I were mafia.

In this scenario, cheese is town and it's not fake, so he's out.

Which leaves WoS. Which I don't really like.

So either solstice is already setting things in motion N3

OR

VA is calling Pandain last MCB but solstice convinces him otherwise (or VA faking the read)

OR

Wos is mafia

OR (for you guys)

I am calling WoS mafia but solstice convinces me otherwise (or me faking the read)

On October 11 2013 09:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
s0L would have had us believe that he had this like, super scumread on Cheese right? I mean based on the case he posted and the tone of SOME of his posts he might as well have a red check on the guy. But look at the rest of the posts - they seem to be APPEALING to Cheese, trying to convince him of his point of view. It's like he can't decide if he wants to stay consistent and PUSH Cheese or if he wants to be swayed and get Cheese on his side. This type of interaction I find mostly from scum-town interactions, but I admit that it could just as easily be fabricated between teammates. But taken with his attack on Cheese, and admittedly because of the whole QT vs. PM thing that happened, I think it's more likely that Cheese is town.

On October 11 2013 09:12 VisceraEyes wrote:

I don't see how any of what Cheese said looks like he was trying to get town cred - I mean, he just OUTTED SCUM man, how much more town-cred can he possibly get?

And while you WERE right about CR not "saving his teammate", at the time we didn't know whether CR was Baller or Banger...right? So I'm not really seeing how this makes Cheese scum to be frank.

Was there some other post you were referring to? Because this one is mostly just you explaining the actions CC is calling you scummy for.