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On October 11 2013 04:43 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
(4) It is clear that D4 onwards scum were bussing and bussing hard. Who is the last scum and why do their actions from D4 onwards make most sense from scum!pov? This sounds dumb, but please explain what you mean by "bussing" here. Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 07:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
4. Austin has been targeting s0lstice and CR for a bit recently, this implicates him the most. S0lstice also warmed up to an austin lynch before the whole fiasco but never actually expands on it. Can you unpack this answer? I guess specifically, how do my actions on D4 onwards implicate me. You say I was targeting them recently, entirely true esp on CR, but go through how my actions D4 onwards implicate me and make sense from a scum pov in your mind.
its not about making sense or not at this point. 2 of the 3 members pretty much gave themselves up. Logic is no longer an issue here. I am looking purely at an interactions.
The interactions between you and s0lstice are abrupt and soft push-y, they look weird.
CR does not even address your cases against him, which is ultra super fucking weird. He has no problem arguing all day with me but he never even addresses your case against him or anything.
When CR gives him scrumreads he puts me as the last banger and s0lstice/you/CC as the other team. I don't think he would be smart enough to leave WoS out as his partner completely, so I am pretty confident it's you or CC. Both you and mr.CC have weird interactions with s0lstice/CR thats all there is to it
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On October 11 2013 05:17 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 04:43 austinmcc wrote:On October 10 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
(4) It is clear that D4 onwards scum were bussing and bussing hard. Who is the last scum and why do their actions from D4 onwards make most sense from scum!pov? This sounds dumb, but please explain what you mean by "bussing" here. On October 10 2013 07:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
4. Austin has been targeting s0lstice and CR for a bit recently, this implicates him the most. S0lstice also warmed up to an austin lynch before the whole fiasco but never actually expands on it. Can you unpack this answer? I guess specifically, how do my actions on D4 onwards implicate me. You say I was targeting them recently, entirely true esp on CR, but go through how my actions D4 onwards implicate me and make sense from a scum pov in your mind. its not about making sense or not at this point. 2 of the 3 members pretty much gave themselves up. Logic is no longer an issue here. I am looking purely at an interactions. The interactions between you and s0lstice are abrupt and soft push-y, they look weird. CR does not even address your cases against him, which is ultra super fucking weird. He has no problem arguing all day with me but he never even addresses your case against him or anything. When CR gives him scrumreads he puts me as the last banger and s0lstice/you/CC as the other team. I don't think he would be smart enough to leave WoS out as his partner completely, so I am pretty confident it's you or CC. Both you and mr.CC have weird interactions with s0lstice/CR thats all there is to it
Can you explain what you mean by the bolded?
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On October 11 2013 05:22 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 05:17 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 11 2013 04:43 austinmcc wrote:On October 10 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
(4) It is clear that D4 onwards scum were bussing and bussing hard. Who is the last scum and why do their actions from D4 onwards make most sense from scum!pov? This sounds dumb, but please explain what you mean by "bussing" here. On October 10 2013 07:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
4. Austin has been targeting s0lstice and CR for a bit recently, this implicates him the most. S0lstice also warmed up to an austin lynch before the whole fiasco but never actually expands on it. Can you unpack this answer? I guess specifically, how do my actions on D4 onwards implicate me. You say I was targeting them recently, entirely true esp on CR, but go through how my actions D4 onwards implicate me and make sense from a scum pov in your mind. its not about making sense or not at this point. 2 of the 3 members pretty much gave themselves up. Logic is no longer an issue here. I am looking purely at an interactions. The interactions between you and s0lstice are abrupt and soft push-y, they look weird. CR does not even address your cases against him, which is ultra super fucking weird. He has no problem arguing all day with me but he never even addresses your case against him or anything. When CR gives him scrumreads he puts me as the last banger and s0lstice/you/CC as the other team. I don't think he would be smart enough to leave WoS out as his partner completely, so I am pretty confident it's you or CC. Both you and mr.CC have weird interactions with s0lstice/CR thats all there is to it Can you explain what you mean by the bolded?
It takes huge balls to actually put all town members as your scumreads. Usually people will just mix in town with the real scum as it's easy to do and gives you allies. That sets everyone against you. Get it?
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Yeah that makes more sense. I thought you meant specifically Wave for some reason.
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Wait so how are you so certain that Wave is town?
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because he makes the least sense to me to be the last scum. plays conservatively, check. Massive fiter/very undecisive, check. Doesn't have strange interactions with s0lstice/CR, check. etc
Process of elimination.
austin 66%
CC 33%
WoS 1%
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On October 11 2013 05:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
because he makes the least sense to me to be the last scum. plays conservatively, check. Massive fiter/very undecisive, check. Doesn't have strange interactions with s0lstice/CR, check. etc
Process of elimination.
austin 66%
CC 33%
WoS 1%
Ya I'm satisfied with this.
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Did you read my austin shit Vayne? Any complaints or anything you think might be misinterpreted?
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I only ask because I've had zero comment from anyone but austin himself.
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could you quote what you are referring to? ive skipped a lot of the recent game since it just looked like a bunch of bullshitting to me
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It's really just easier if you read it. Whatever.
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Like, it's fucking not bullshitting or I wouldn't be asking for comment. Just read the shit Vayne.
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You mean the stuff about him in relation to making cases on s0lstice and CR and stuff and how they never actually refute them or whatever and all that jazz? just looks to be in line with what im thinking about, not too sure what you want commented on. It's good and showed that he has no real answer for it. Does it make him 100% scum? No but he is the most likely.
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On October 11 2013 05:17 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 04:43 austinmcc wrote:On October 10 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
(4) It is clear that D4 onwards scum were bussing and bussing hard. Who is the last scum and why do their actions from D4 onwards make most sense from scum!pov? This sounds dumb, but please explain what you mean by "bussing" here. On October 10 2013 07:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
4. Austin has been targeting s0lstice and CR for a bit recently, this implicates him the most. S0lstice also warmed up to an austin lynch before the whole fiasco but never actually expands on it. Can you unpack this answer? I guess specifically, how do my actions on D4 onwards implicate me. You say I was targeting them recently, entirely true esp on CR, but go through how my actions D4 onwards implicate me and make sense from a scum pov in your mind. its not about making sense or not at this point. 2 of the 3 members pretty much gave themselves up. Logic is no longer an issue here. I am looking purely at an interactions. The interactions between you and s0lstice are abrupt and soft push-y, they look weird. CR does not even address your cases against him, which is ultra super fucking weird. He has no problem arguing all day with me but he never even addresses your case against him or anything. When CR gives him scrumreads he puts me as the last banger and s0lstice/you/CC as the other team. I don't think he would be smart enough to leave WoS out as his partner completely, so I am pretty confident it's you or CC. Both you and mr.CC have weird interactions with s0lstice/CR thats all there is to it Given that rayn specifically asks about actions, and given that I have some...peculiar actions, do they fit scumaustinmcc for you, or do you believe they are just less convincing than the interactions?
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On October 11 2013 05:44 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 05:17 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 11 2013 04:43 austinmcc wrote:On October 10 2013 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
(4) It is clear that D4 onwards scum were bussing and bussing hard. Who is the last scum and why do their actions from D4 onwards make most sense from scum!pov? This sounds dumb, but please explain what you mean by "bussing" here. On October 10 2013 07:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
4. Austin has been targeting s0lstice and CR for a bit recently, this implicates him the most. S0lstice also warmed up to an austin lynch before the whole fiasco but never actually expands on it. Can you unpack this answer? I guess specifically, how do my actions on D4 onwards implicate me. You say I was targeting them recently, entirely true esp on CR, but go through how my actions D4 onwards implicate me and make sense from a scum pov in your mind. its not about making sense or not at this point. 2 of the 3 members pretty much gave themselves up. Logic is no longer an issue here. I am looking purely at an interactions. The interactions between you and s0lstice are abrupt and soft push-y, they look weird. CR does not even address your cases against him, which is ultra super fucking weird. He has no problem arguing all day with me but he never even addresses your case against him or anything. When CR gives him scrumreads he puts me as the last banger and s0lstice/you/CC as the other team. I don't think he would be smart enough to leave WoS out as his partner completely, so I am pretty confident it's you or CC. Both you and mr.CC have weird interactions with s0lstice/CR thats all there is to it Given that rayn specifically asks about actions, and given that I have some...peculiar actions, do they fit scumaustinmcc for you, or do you believe they are just less convincing than the interactions?
less convincing given the context of the game. Not really too concerned with the actions given what has happened, and I think you'll find that's a reasonable assessment to make
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I don't think it's unreasonable, I think that we've all got a mix of stuff. Just trying to to get insight into your thought process and adjust reads.
I still have a hard time figuring out how my D4 makes sense as scum, but I can see some bits and pieces of other stuff you'd look at. If that's more convincing, a scumread from you is better/townier than you trying to force everything I've done to be scummy, a la rayn.
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Just poppin' in to say hi.
We're sure it's not Vayne, right?
Paranoia setting in as to how he keeps assuring everyone I'm town.
Like, I'm pretty sure my recent solid townread on him is for a pretty good reason and I really don't want to go back and revisit him. Under any other circumstances I'd be all like 'Well Vayne played a great scumgame so if it's him than he deserves to win"
And I mean, he would deserve to win too, but it's VAYNE, and I'm sick of him winning scumgames and not getting lynched for good reasons and shit.
All of that is pretty spiteful though I admit.
I just want to see if everyone else is as pretty damn sure as I am that it's not Vayne. Before having a good look at Austin/CC later. Still leaning CC, but I want to be sure.
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I'm pretty sure...he wasn't as overtly abrasive in the scum game I read and that's pretty much the only serious difference, but his conclusions match mine and I'm going with town.
Wave you should read austin and my interactions on the last 4 or 5 pages. Over the course of questioning him I had a really hard time getting him to commit to a scumread, and it didn't feel like it was because he wasn't sure or was paranoid or whatever. And he's got some interactions with s0L that are basically unexplainable from a town perspective.
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On October 11 2013 07:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm pretty sure...he wasn't as overtly abrasive in the scum game I read and that's pretty much the only serious difference, but his conclusions match mine and I'm going with town.
Wave you should read austin and my interactions on the last 4 or 5 pages. Over the course of questioning him I had a really hard time getting him to commit to a scumread, and it didn't feel like it was because he wasn't sure or was paranoid or whatever. And he's got some interactions with s0L that are basically unexplainable from a town perspective.
I saw some of that, but I think I have to go back and read it.
Who was commenting on the fact that Austin shouldn't still be alive, you or VE? (Or was it Rayn?)
'Cause I remember that particular point being bullshit.
I do remember Austin talking quite a bit without taking stances recently.
Give me a few hours before any hardcore reading/analysis. I promise I'll get to any thing people want me to get to later on.
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On October 11 2013 07:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm pretty sure...he wasn't as overtly abrasive in the scum game I read and that's pretty much the only serious difference, but his conclusions match mine and I'm going with town.
Wave you should read austin and my interactions on the last 4 or 5 pages. Over the course of questioning him I had a really hard time getting him to commit to a scumread, and it didn't feel like it was because he wasn't sure or was paranoid or whatever. And he's got some interactions with s0L that are basically unexplainable from a town perspective. We don't seem to write/think the same way. This has happened like 3-4 times over the course of the game, earlier you thinking that I wasn't quite calling someone scum or wasn't quite doing x, when in my mind I was.
I DON'T fully know. I AM unsure.
Just...remember this one for future games.
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