Oh no, IN THAT SAME GAME KUSH ALSO SMURFED.

However, he did apologise and promise to change his ways, and he also had been a reasonable player beforehand (unlike threesr and sidesprang who seem to have no redeeming qualities as players). About Kush, GM wrote:

Alright, update time.

Something a lot of people on tl seem to miss (I've noticed it both here and in the ABL, notably), is the virtue of compassion. Whenever someone gives a two day ban, or just a warning, someone seems to feel like it's "not enough", and they miss the point of the action entirely. Many times much more is achieved by compassion than by crushing the offender under your heel. With mercy, you create good feelings and turn bad behaviors into constructive ones, while by not staying your hand, you instead create further resentment. That is not to say that there aren't times when the fullest punishment is called for, but I feel that it is wisest to err on the side of mercy, there is always time to ban someone, but the hate created by banning rarely heals.

Based on that, and his sharp shift in attitude both here and in PMs and following discussion in the staff forums, kushm4sta will not be permed from tl (yes, he is a PBU, those are allowed on occasion provided they behave) and I will give him the punishment the host decided, a three game ban. If he is caught on a similar infraction however the consequences will be severe. Terminal even.

That said, anyone who does not want him in his games is free to blacklist him. His change of attitude is abrupt, but I prefer to believe it sincere.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

March 13 2014 22:29 GMT

#1004

We perm'd 4face right? DAT GUY.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

March 13 2014 22:30 GMT

#1005

2/3 of the scum team had to be replaced on d1

marvellosity

United Kingdom36159 Posts

March 13 2014 22:32 GMT

#1006

kush apologised and offered to change his ways after being largely antagonistic for some time, and basically only became contrite when it was clear that the forum was trending towards a perm ban for him.

for sidesprang i'd favour a multi-game ban, which 98% will be the end of him, but on the small chance that he's serious about playing mafia, leaves the door open to take penitence that would take many weeks/months as befitting the seriousness

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

March 13 2014 22:35 GMT

#1007

I'd be fine with a multi game ban too.

Balla24

2322 Posts

March 13 2014 22:38 GMT

#1008

Me too. For the times that he DID play he was enjoyable to play with. With that said: his behavior was deteriorating since the shadowed series.

If he can't be assed to sitout a single game ban anyways, I doubt he will be bothered to sitout multiple games anyways. If he has the intention (which he can show by posting) of playing here still and changing his ways, i'd be all for having him around more.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

March 14 2014 00:22 GMT

#1009

If we go multi game it had better be at least three with a mark on his record that says something about perming him if he is mod killed for any reason.

We let kush off for a lesser offence. Remember that sprang ban dodged to be in a newbie game, the person who has done that before was threesr and we did perm him.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

March 14 2014 00:34 GMT

#1010

A semi-permanent ban seems perfectly reasonable to me. He's already been banned twice - even a normal ban would be five games.

And trying to dodge a previous ban+smurfing into a newbie game is clearly worse.

DarthPunk

Australia10854 Posts

March 14 2014 00:35 GMT

#1011

Sidesprang was a decent person to play with. He made a mistake, but marv is right, we should give him a multi and the chance to reform and come back.

If he really wants to play mafia enough to /sitout 3 games or so then he is worth giving a final chance.

Perming people should be an absolute last resort. And let's be honest. He probably wasn't all that much better a player than some of the newbies, it is not like it is rayn and I smurfing into a newbie so we can destroy everyone. He hadn't played all that much more than the 4 game cutoff.

What I want to know is. How the F did Blazinghand have multiple IP address' of players here to compare?

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

March 14 2014 00:40 GMT

#1012

Incidentally, he seems to be listed on the ban list twice (once with a capitalized name, once without). I'm assuming he didn't sit out the first offense either?

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

March 14 2014 00:43 GMT

#1013

On March 14 2014 09:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Sidesprang was a decent person to play with. He made a mistake, but marv is right, we should give him a multi and the chance to reform and come back.

If he really wants to play mafia enough to /sitout 3 games or so then he is worth giving a final chance.

Perming people should be an absolute last resort. And let's be honest. He probably wasn't all that much better a player than some of the newbies, it is not like it is rayn and I smurfing into a newbie so we can destroy everyone. He hadn't played all that much more than the 4 game cutoff.

What I want to know is. How the F did Blazinghand have multiple IP address' of players here to compare?

Can't you request IP checks as a host?