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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
September 14 2013 01:52 GMT
#1421
On September 14 2013 10:40 kushm4sta wrote:
im a little confused OP why did you feel the need to claim? nothing is scummy about voting a town read to save yourself.

For me the fact that he voted means he was probably waiting in the thread for a while and watching to see if he had to do anything and just not posting which is suspicious. Nobody simply says, hmmm 1 minute before deadline. Guess I'll check in to see who's getting lynched. oh it's me. *unvote*

BH would come off looking better if he could be not lynched while just conveniently not being there before the deadline when all of the discussion is taking place.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 01:58 GMT
#1422
On September 14 2013 10:43 Umasi wrote:
sorry for not being around at lynch time
fwiw I buy the roleclaim, I think it's stupid to not believe the roleclaim, it fits with his stated reasoning and pushing his lynch is blatantly pro scum
anyone have things they want me to address specifically? I've kind of lost the flow of the thread since I've been afk/entered the thread late


Have you read the whole thread so far?
Do you have any opinions on who you think are scum, and if so why?
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 14 2013 02:06 GMT
#1423
I'm caught up on the thread, yeah.
on BH, I'm most suspicious of rayn and oats (probably rayn a bit moreso), I wasn't really feeling the SAB tunnel very much, and never really understood what he was trying to communciate.
He just yelled HE'S SCUM HE'S SCUM HE'S SCUM WHY DON'T YOU GUYS WANT TO LYNCH SCUM is the main feel I got from him. He also has me as town during your discussion on people on BH being suspicious, and I have no idea what I'd done to be labelled as such :| referring to this post
On September 14 2013 06:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 06:37 Pandain wrote:
Look at the lynch on OP, Rayn. The votes on it don't make sense.

Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, [black]blubbdavid,[/black] Umasi, raynpelikoneet, [black]WaveofShadow[/black]

Makes more sense to me than any other wagon.


why am I town, why isn't WOS ( I have wos as kind of a town read.)

on blub, I'm more inclined to say that no one on him was scum. If there was a scum on him, I'd look at kush first for his A: blatant don't give a fuck attitude, B: totally unexplained vote on GK(me)
that would mean I think debs and zealot are town, and I think debs (papa smurf) could be, but zealot I'm less sure on.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 14 2013 02:16 GMT
#1424
On September 14 2013 10:40 kushm4sta wrote:
im a little confused OP why did you feel the need to claim? nothing is scummy about voting a town read to save yourself.


To break it down again: I had claimed that I wasn't available ever for the lynch deadline due to work and not having a smartphone. however, showing up to save myself would have proved that I was available. At this point I basically have to claim that i'm blazinghand right. But then people see "oh wtf this kid is blazinghand" so i basically had to lay out my whole gameplan
For better or for worse, things had changed.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
September 14 2013 02:22 GMT
#1425
On September 14 2013 11:16 Old Partner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 10:40 kushm4sta wrote:
im a little confused OP why did you feel the need to claim? nothing is scummy about voting a town read to save yourself.


To break it down again: I had claimed that I wasn't available ever for the lynch deadline due to work and not having a smartphone. however, showing up to save myself would have proved that I was available. At this point I basically have to claim that i'm blazinghand right. But then people see "oh wtf this kid is blazinghand" so i basically had to lay out my whole gameplan

did you think at all about claiming at the start of the game?
Like you said even if you are catching scum it's not in scum's interest to kill you because you don't count against their win condition and if you had been really pro-town and helped catch scum you wouldn't be lynched.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 14 2013 02:24 GMT
#1426
I am feeling scummers are doing #bigplays

Off to bed now
I had a good night of sleep.
Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 14 2013 02:24 GMT
#1427
On September 14 2013 11:22 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 11:16 Old Partner wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:40 kushm4sta wrote:
im a little confused OP why did you feel the need to claim? nothing is scummy about voting a town read to save yourself.


To break it down again: I had claimed that I wasn't available ever for the lynch deadline due to work and not having a smartphone. however, showing up to save myself would have proved that I was available. At this point I basically have to claim that i'm blazinghand right. But then people see "oh wtf this kid is blazinghand" so i basically had to lay out my whole gameplan

did you think at all about claiming at the start of the game?
Like you said even if you are catching scum it's not in scum's interest to kill you because you don't count against their win condition and if you had been really pro-town and helped catch scum you wouldn't be lynched.


i, what.
For better or for worse, things had changed.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 14 2013 02:29 GMT
#1428
claiming a non-town role is generally a bad idea to start the game.
reminds me of someone in a newbie game asking if claiming traitor was smart :|
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 14 2013 02:30 GMT
#1429
yeah actually im fine with a vig on bh. he likes to do retarded fancy things as scum.

why would survivor lie about not being here for lynch?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 14 2013 02:33 GMT
#1430
I lied and said I was around for like 6 hours a day so I wouldn't be seen as a threat, and I'd also have an excuse / way not to be lynched WHILE not being seen as a threat. If I hadn't freaked out and voted at the last minute I'd be totally fine surviving.
For better or for worse, things had changed.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
September 14 2013 02:38 GMT
#1431
On September 14 2013 11:29 Umasi wrote:
claiming a non-town role is generally a bad idea to start the game.
reminds me of someone in a newbie game asking if claiming traitor was smart :|

That's how I would have chosen to play as that role. Better to just come out with it and act really pro-town and lynch scum in order to not get lynched then playing like a scum player without the advantage of a scum team and somehow expecting to make it to the endgame.
Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 14 2013 02:52 GMT
#1432
On September 14 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 11:29 Umasi wrote:
claiming a non-town role is generally a bad idea to start the game.
reminds me of someone in a newbie game asking if claiming traitor was smart :|

That's how I would have chosen to play as that role. Better to just come out with it and act really pro-town and lynch scum in order to not get lynched then playing like a scum player without the advantage of a scum team and somehow expecting to make it to the endgame.

no that's not
For better or for worse, things had changed.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 14 2013 02:53 GMT
#1433
On September 14 2013 10:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 09:50 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 14 2013 09:43 Koshi wrote:
Question to all:

Did you know that you could post your role PM?

Please answer!

Thank you!

no, I expected BH to be modkilled. You made an interesting point about BH asking if he could post his role PM. maybe he thought he could and then saw people expecting him to modkill and second guessed himself. I don't really see any sort of scum motivation for not knowing whether he could post it or not.

It's more about the fact that scum knew that it was allowed because they got fake role pms in their QT from hosts. I remember them being provided in Nuclear as well. So scum BH knew he was able to post roles.

If he was really survivor/town he would have assumed that it was not ok to post roles unless he actually read the rules and knew it was allowed. But in that case he wouldn't have to ask the hosts if it was allowed.

It is unbelievable/almost impossible that BH posted his role PM without checking if it was allowed. Nobody assumes that posting roles is allowed.


Ink kind of agree with this.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
September 14 2013 02:55 GMT
#1434
On September 14 2013 11:52 Old Partner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 14 2013 11:29 Umasi wrote:
claiming a non-town role is generally a bad idea to start the game.
reminds me of someone in a newbie game asking if claiming traitor was smart :|

That's how I would have chosen to play as that role. Better to just come out with it and act really pro-town and lynch scum in order to not get lynched then playing like a scum player without the advantage of a scum team and somehow expecting to make it to the endgame.

no that's not

haha I would. But I also would claim Miller at the start of the game if I was SAM so it could just be a stylistic difference.
Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 14 2013 03:01 GMT
#1435
On September 14 2013 11:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 11:52 Old Partner wrote:
On September 14 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 14 2013 11:29 Umasi wrote:
claiming a non-town role is generally a bad idea to start the game.
reminds me of someone in a newbie game asking if claiming traitor was smart :|

That's how I would have chosen to play as that role. Better to just come out with it and act really pro-town and lynch scum in order to not get lynched then playing like a scum player without the advantage of a scum team and somehow expecting to make it to the endgame.

no that's not

haha I would. But I also would claim Miller at the start of the game if I was SAM so it could just be a stylistic difference.

Yeah, the difference between good style and grack style
For better or for worse, things had changed.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 14 2013 03:05 GMT
#1436
Not gonna lie Rayn successfully made this thread turn to shit
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 14 2013 03:15 GMT
#1437
On September 14 2013 12:05 Pandain wrote:
Not gonna lie Rayn successfully made this thread turn to shit

It's a proven successful scum tactic.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
September 14 2013 03:29 GMT
#1438
On September 14 2013 12:15 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 12:05 Pandain wrote:
Not gonna lie Rayn successfully made this thread turn to shit

It's a proven successful scum tactic.

You think that both Rayn and BH look scummy.
Rayn was repeatedly pushing BH over Pandain when nobody was suspicious of BH. do you think that Rayn was actually bussing BH today or do you think that they both have things about them that are scummy but it is unlikely that they are scum together?

Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 14 2013 03:54 GMT
#1439
On September 14 2013 12:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 12:15 strongandbig wrote:
On September 14 2013 12:05 Pandain wrote:
Not gonna lie Rayn successfully made this thread turn to shit

It's a proven successful scum tactic.

You think that both Rayn and BH look scummy.
Rayn was repeatedly pushing BH over Pandain when nobody was suspicious of BH. do you think that Rayn was actually bussing BH today or do you think that they both have things about them that are scummy but it is unlikely that they are scum together?



If you could tell koshi this line of reasoning, then replace raynp with me and BH with blobb, that would be appreciated
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 14 2013 03:54 GMT
#1440
actually nvm bobb is town thats invalid
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