• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:22
CEST 17:22
KST 00:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !7Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Do we have a pimpest plays list? Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (Spoiler) Asl ro8 D winner interview BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
The Letting Off Steam Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1962 users

Golden Sun: The Broken Seal Mini Mafia - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 15 16 17 Next All
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 14 2013 04:59 GMT
#1473
hey im here for a bit to discuss anything if anyone wants to, otherwise heading to bed.

to pandain's last point, we can always lynch OP to buy us time for a day if we ever unsure at some point. We always have that as a back option due to his claim.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 14 2013 05:04 GMT
#1476
just like rayn, you'll have to piece together a case if you are in anyway serious. otherwise dont waste my time
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 14 2013 05:08 GMT
#1480
On September 14 2013 14:05 Old Partner wrote:
How does it possibly "buy time" to lynch a survivor


another cop check, another roleblock, a save, 72 more hours for scum to slip, etc the possibilities are literally endless. More time is always better for town. Any other cringe worthy questions
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 14 2013 05:09 GMT
#1481
On September 14 2013 14:05 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 13:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
hey im here for a bit to discuss anything if anyone wants to, otherwise heading to bed.

to pandain's last point, we can always lynch OP to buy us time for a day if we ever unsure at some point. We always have that as a back option due to his claim.

Would that be right choice? I guess so in that OP could vote as scum; unless a cop gets killed in which case we should go for scum anyway.


it is the right choice because his wincon is to survive at all costs. He is essentially another scum player if he never needs to be.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 14 2013 05:19 GMT
#1484
On September 14 2013 14:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 13:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
hey im here for a bit to discuss anything if anyone wants to, otherwise heading to bed.

to pandain's last point, we can always lynch OP to buy us time for a day if we ever unsure at some point. We always have that as a back option due to his claim.

Who do you think is scum, and if you say kush please give some analysis beyond just him planting his vote on Blubbers and being Kush in general



Hmm tough call but I'd say koshi, you, rayn, and kush are probably the scummiest to me right now.

something has felt off about koshi the entire game and he's using people as puppets again and kind of just floating along on people giving him town reads. Last time this happened he was a serial killer.

Like oats, I don't understand your last second vote switch and what you hoped to accomplish there. There's also way way back that point I made which I still think was a bit of a scumslip but your posting has improved since then...probably my lowest priority right now

rayn...where do I begin. the only reason he isn't dead yet is because he plays anti-town as town too. If he's scum welcome to hell because he's impossible to lynch and if he's town welcome to the titanic where town loses more and more the longer he lives. just somebody vig this guy.

kush pretty much a mini rayn, skating by on reputation and I haven't seen any good reasons as to why he's town besides HE'S TOWN STFU FUCKING FUCk!!11 and that doesn't fly where I'm from. Make these players do something or town loses.

brief rundown of my scum reads until further notice. the last two can easily be town if they stop trolling and do shit.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 14 2013 05:53 GMT
#1496
On September 14 2013 14:47 Grackaroni wrote:
@Vayne: you started out this game with an actual case and I got the impression that you would be doing actual anaylsis, as of late all your main scum reads look extremely outdated. Your only reasoning for me being scum is that I was suspicious of Pandain and besides that you latch onto WoS/Oat's posts. I have been doing so much more in the thread you could analyze.
You have even less reasoning for Koshi being scum, all you have said is that he was suspicious of Pandain. It looks to me that you only wrote your case on Blubbers to jump on some early town cred and after people wrote you off as town you got lazy and stopped bothering to analyze the thread.


I don't feel the need to repeat myself, if I see anything worthy of deep analysis then ill post it. You asked for scumreads and I gave an overview of what i've seen from day 1. It's not so much outdated as getting badgered to re-iterate what I have already said.

If you actually thought this was all shitty then you would have said something before now I presume.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 14 2013 06:12 GMT
#1499
On September 14 2013 15:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 14:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 14 2013 14:47 Grackaroni wrote:
@Vayne: you started out this game with an actual case and I got the impression that you would be doing actual anaylsis, as of late all your main scum reads look extremely outdated. Your only reasoning for me being scum is that I was suspicious of Pandain and besides that you latch onto WoS/Oat's posts. I have been doing so much more in the thread you could analyze.
You have even less reasoning for Koshi being scum, all you have said is that he was suspicious of Pandain. It looks to me that you only wrote your case on Blubbers to jump on some early town cred and after people wrote you off as town you got lazy and stopped bothering to analyze the thread.


I don't feel the need to repeat myself, if I see anything worthy of deep analysis then ill post it. You asked for scumreads and I gave an overview of what i've seen from day 1. It's not so much outdated as getting badgered to re-iterate what I have already said.

If you actually thought this was all shitty then you would have said something before now I presume.

There's a reason I had asked you the question rather than just looking back at what you already said. I wanted to see if you had anything new to bring to the table after the Blubbdavid lynch.

Your reasoning for Koshi being scum is weak. You are telling me there is nobody in this game you are more suspicious of at the moment then Koshi because he was suspicious of Pandain's first post? That's the best scum read you've got at this point in the game?


I don't get where the pandain thing is coming from but its more of a meta read, considering he actually hasn't done that much if you read his filter.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 14:51 GMT
#1909
dont have time to read this all right now, quick run down on why everyone is voting OP? cop check or something? I see that WoS was a survivor as well but don't think that really means anything. has OP been doing anything or just gave up?

I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 16:52 GMT
#1945
reading through I guess a lot of people are suspicious of my blubbdavid vote now that he showed up town, which is convenient in hindsight. Didn't stop you guys from following me eh? lol

I don't know what's going on now with this kush/koshi hard buddying thing but I doubt they would do that as scum so im probably wrong somewhere

rayn still concerns me since he was just lecturing me about not wanting to vote for the survivor but now he goes ahead and votes OP without a second thought. really weird and inconsistent.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 16:55 GMT
#1946
On September 16 2013 01:50 Papa_Smurf wrote:
btw koshi, since you are so keen on the fact of having two 3p in this game.

What games have ever had two 3p in a 15 player game
What games haven't

Then do the percentages. I'd love to know


golden sun is a game with a lot of lone wolves and rouges of that nature. It fits the game and his role PM looked very convincing. Idk why you would ever ask the hosts for a survivor role PM to fake when that role is usually lynched on sight by every town.

I don't see him flipping scum.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 16:58 GMT
#1947
also im trying to wrap my head around this night kill, WoS never really had any reads of his own looking through his filter. The last thing he says is i want to policy lynch kush but that's stupid.

Don't really know what's going on in this game tbh
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 17:04 GMT
#1950
On September 16 2013 02:01 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:50 Papa_Smurf wrote:
btw koshi, since you are so keen on the fact of having two 3p in this game.

What games have ever had two 3p in a 15 player game
What games haven't

Then do the percentages. I'd love to know


golden sun is a game with a lot of lone wolves and rouges of that nature. It fits the game and his role PM looked very convincing. Idk why you would ever ask the hosts for a survivor role PM to fake when that role is usually lynched on sight by every town.

I don't see him flipping scum.


what of "the captain"

I could only find one reference of someone being a captain of the ship. Nowhere does it say he was called "the captain"

riggs was presumably born and raised in Champa. In his early life he is described as formerly being a real brat, but in the present age he has become a swarthy middle-aged man who was eventually recognized as the greatest of Champa's sailors, so he was subsequently named the captain of the sailors of Champa. He is also described as having "never been sick a day of his life." While he is recognized as tough and boasts of it, Briggs is also very insecure around those even more powerful than himself, instinctively running away from someone who defeats him in battle.

I couldn't find karagol anywhere in the wiki entry, which was the sea referenced that "the captain" sailed in.


see bolded. does that not scream survivor to you? also how would he fake such a long role PM in such short time, he obviously got it from the hosts so the name of the character is not in question, it's if he is actually telling the truth or not.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 18:32 GMT
#1983
On September 16 2013 02:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
also im trying to wrap my head around this night kill, WoS never really had any reads of his own looking through his filter. The last thing he says is i want to policy lynch kush but that's stupid.

Don't really know what's going on in this game tbh

A really bad vigi shot or a set-up with SK + survivor.

VA, your opinion on OP and Papa "The Red" Smurf?


I think OP is honestly survivor, and I stand by the fact that it's a good lynch if we don't have any better reads. Sucks for him but what ya gonna do.

PS is fighting with pretty much all my scumreads so he's either getting gangbanged or I just suck this game, which isn't the first time.

while your here can you explain what you mean by WoS not being killed by scum? there's only one kill today. did they just not use their KP? lol
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 18:42 GMT
#1985
On September 16 2013 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can people now see why Vayne is scum?


you've been saying that all game but refuse to ever given any evidence when asked for it. You also unintentionally discontinue conversations with me when you have no response.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 18:42 GMT
#1986
intentionally*
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 18:48 GMT
#1988
On September 16 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would any sane scumteam shoot WoS?
Why is the only other option for only one death "scum holding KP"?


Are you trying to bluehunt here? because you're doing a horrible job of trying to make it look like an attack on me.

How am I supposed to know what the scum team is thinking and what exactly are you implying by your second statement? you are just putting words into my mouth.

how about answering my questions now buddy?
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 18:55 GMT
#1990
On September 16 2013 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, why would scum hit WoS who is a scumread for almost everyone and didn't do much anything on D1?
And why can't somebody have been docced / veteran have been hit? You are suggesting that as the only option, why?


plz show me where I say it's the only option that would be great. You are pretty much confirmed scum to me now for having information you shouldn't.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 18:58 GMT
#1993
On September 16 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are trying to justify your survivor-read on BH by the fact that WoS was killed by scum and there were no other deaths.
You are either very dumb or protecting a SK / scumbuddy.


lol you are so incredibly naive it's hilarious. sigh you are so awful to play with
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 19:09 GMT
#1999
this rayn guy is only using stuff that works to his advantage to try and get me convicted, its desperate at best. says im defending OP for some bullshit reason when kush/oats/koshi are also "defending" him and has townreads on them...dat bias

says lynching a survivor is horrible for town and gives more time for scum when I bring it up and then he jumps on lynching OP without a second thought, not even trying to do anything else.

Has extra information that he shouldn't have based on this convo.

how do you have rayn as town koshi, you are letting his retarded/useless = town meta confuse you.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 19:14 GMT
#2003
On September 16 2013 04:13 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 04:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
this rayn guy is only using stuff that works to his advantage to try and get me convicted, its desperate at best. says im defending OP for some bullshit reason when kush/oats/koshi are also "defending" him and has townreads on them...dat bias

says lynching a survivor is horrible for town and gives more time for scum when I bring it up and then he jumps on lynching OP without a second thought, not even trying to do anything else.

Has extra information that he shouldn't have based on this convo.

how do you have rayn as town koshi, you are letting his retarded/useless = town meta confuse you.

Pretty sure most of us are safe for a while with OP/PS being lynched today.
So if he is trying to get you convicted he is just pressuring you for 2morrows.
Dnu why you are getting your panties in a bunch over this.

btw, you are not useful VA. Your initial reads you brag about are even proven wrong.


quote where I bragged about my initial reads and where they were proven wrong, ty
I come in for the scraps
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 15 16 17 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 3102
RotterdaM 264
TKL 117
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 46560
Bisu 2031
Horang2 921
EffOrt 894
Larva 587
firebathero 546
Hyuk 495
Stork 491
ggaemo 450
Mini 373
[ Show more ]
BeSt 261
actioN 224
hero 212
Soulkey 206
ZerO 191
Killer 186
Rush 179
Soma 174
Pusan 93
Dewaltoss 87
Hyun 81
Barracks 72
Sea.KH 66
Zeus 61
Sharp 51
Backho 42
soO 41
ToSsGirL 34
sorry 33
Shine 21
HiyA 18
scan(afreeca) 18
Rock 15
IntoTheRainbow 14
Noble 13
GoRush 12
Terrorterran 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Sacsri 8
Dota 2
Gorgc4629
qojqva1801
syndereN439
monkeys_forever182
Other Games
singsing2428
B2W.Neo1179
hiko842
Liquid`RaSZi503
Beastyqt496
Lowko346
DeMusliM318
FrodaN314
ceh9221
KnowMe194
ArmadaUGS152
Mew2King101
QueenE55
Trikslyr26
ZerO(Twitch)13
fpsfer 1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1269
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3238
• TFBlade944
Other Games
• Shiphtur157
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
38m
Fjant vs Bly
Serral vs Shameless
OSC
6h 38m
The PiG Daily
7h 38m
Maru vs Rogue
TBD vs Classic
herO vs Solar
ByuN vs Solar
Replay Cast
8h 38m
CranKy Ducklings
18h 38m
RSL Revival
18h 38m
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
19h 38m
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
SC Evo League
21h 38m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
23h 38m
BSL
1d 3h
Artosis vs TerrOr
spx vs StRyKeR
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 18h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
1d 19h
BSL
2 days
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Leta
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-05
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
Escore Tournament S2: W6
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.