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On September 14 2013 13:26 Papa_Smurf wrote: I can see BH pulling a stunt like that. No necessarily just any random person smurfing. I am also the king of last-minute vote shenannies, for what it's worth. And I think the fact I call a guy "illegible" is pretty much a BH-tell. | ||
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On September 14 2013 13:28 Oatsmaster wrote: So if OP is BH, you think OP is scum. Is that right? Wait, if he thinks i'm lying about being BH, then... I'm mafia? or I'm not mafia? Should I have pretended to forget what i claimed in mario mini to dodge the wrath of PS/DB? | ||
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On September 14 2013 13:44 Pandain wrote: OP how about you stop trolling on useless matters and help analyze WoS so I can get a fresh perspective. This is a reasonable request. I'll take a look at his filter. Is there anything in particular you want me to keep an eye out for while I do so? | ||
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On September 14 2013 13:59 VayneAuthority wrote: hey im here for a bit to discuss anything if anyone wants to, otherwise heading to bed. to pandain's last point, we can always lynch OP to buy us time for a day if we ever unsure at some point. We always have that as a back option due to his claim. you're literally scum | ||
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He says this: On September 14 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol. and he continues with this: On September 14 2013 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote: Who said specifically they don't want to vote SnB because they think your case is bad? I'm still waiting on SnB to come back and explain the apparent lie you found (and even more so why he came back already and didn't address it) but aside from that I wouldn't be sure enough to vote him today even if he doesn't come back JUST because of that lie (as I feel that is the strongest part of your case). and so he lays suspicion on SnB without voting him at a time when were sitting on about 2-3 votes on each of SnB, Blubb, and me. he continues here to sheep umasi who has basically said nothing all game: On September 14 2013 04:14 WaveofShadow wrote: Fuck it. Make of this what you will but I really don't think Blubb is scum. I've noticed that before people get lynched they are expected to make some sort of a reads post or something to help people out if they happen to flip town (never mind the=at TL towns ignore that shit anyway but whatever). I think out of all the games I've played in, scum has made a post (for WIFOM) like this ONCE that I can think of offhand, and that was ShiaoPi in LXI. Most often scum simply don't want to bother. Blubb has made a post like this recently, and specifically told us to watch out for debears (I'm not saying debears is scum). The reason I didn't want to reveal this until later is because I'd want to see if he repeats this behaviour closer to deadline but since I'm not here I have to reveal it now. TL;DR Scum don't give reads before getting lynched. I don't think blubb is scum. Make of the above what you will but I think at this point I'd lynch OP simply by process of elimination. On September 14 2013 05:18 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright kush with effort. I will have faith. I'm gone as well guys. vote: old partner Ultimately, I don't think WoS's opinions here are inherently bad. What's bad are two things: one, he has to be backed into them, and dodges my SnB question. Two, he doesn't vote me because he thinks I'm scum. He doesn't write a case that would convince other people, he states a process of elimination. I could see this coming from a town perspective, but there's a couple things to bear in mind here 1) at this point there are several closely competing wagons, all of which have few votes. A serious case could change things here 2) WoS comes out without a clear opinion on SnB. He defends Blubb, but the fact that his defense is so brief (and he doesnt hang out after he votes me to argue or push, or even defend bluff seriously!) makes me think WoS wanted to be able to come back and say "wow, i tried to save blubb but you guys are bad!" Now, when he votes me is actually about an hour after he says "I'd lynch OP by process of elimination". In this hour, it goes from closely contested wagons to me being out in front. WoS piling on is actually a point in his favor in my opinion-- if he was scum pushing one townie wagon or another (from his PoV) doesn't make a huge amount of sense. That being said, he's no longer the deciding vote, at least at the time he votes. he states an intention to vote me i the least commital way possible, makes no attempts to ACTUALLY save blubbdavid (WHO HE THINKS IS TOWN), and votes me AFTER he sees which way the wind is blowing. I'd say WoS is high on my list of lynchable candidates. And it is AWFULLY convenient of him to be afk for some time now, isn't it? | ||
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On September 14 2013 14:29 Grackaroni wrote: The people moving the lynch off of you are more likely to be mafia? Why would they stick themselves out like that when a non-mafia player (yourself) is getting lynched.. I don't agree with this at all. Mafia would be content with the lynch and not pulling last minute shennanies.... Zealos moved his vote to the 3-vote kush wagon from the 1-vote snb wagon. SnB voted Zealos and WoS voted me Of the three who last minute shenannied and aren't me, it's blubbdavid (town), grack (you), and panda. Panda then moved over to blubb and you ended the day with your vote on a zealos who conveniently didn't get lynched (he had 1 vote before the shenannie began) and blubb had unvoted. -- all this in the last few hours, all ending with a tiny plurality lynching blubbdavid with almost no real opposition. you think scum wasn't involved? | ||
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There's much to be gained from debating with him. | ||
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Man, looking back on it I just can't shake the idea that strongandbig HAS to be town. The fact that he noticed PS/DB coaching a newbie just doesn't seem like something scum would be motivated to do. I know I've ##FoSed SnB, but if I'm going to be honest here (and I must), the fact that he has ignored me isn't the most terrible thing. SnB's finding out that PS is coaching a newbie game, then asking him about it, strikes me as townie. After all, making that connection is not something he'd have to do as scum. Townies inherently are trying to find things out about the game, whereas scum are trying to conceal Scum could do it. If SnB was hosting that other game or something I'd see it. But really, looking to see where else the obvious smurf has posted, just to call him out for it... I think this isn't something that would occur to a scum player. This is the kind of thing you only look into if you're naturally inquiring. SnB probably just didn't give a dick about me posting once or twice a day and ignored me or forgot me. It happens. I think this is a genuine insight into his mindset: he is town. | ||
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