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Votecount!
infii (1): Umasi, Umasi
myRZeth (2): Bereft, infii
Umasi (0): HolyFlare
LoneMeow (1): HolyFlare
Bereft (1): Koshi
Currently myRZeth is set to be lynched!
It is Day 2! The person with the most votes at the end of the day will be lynched! Voting is mandatory!
Deadline is at 22:00 GMT (+00:00)! You have ~1 hour left
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Also, when LV asked for his replacement. Everybody who thought LV was scum should have still voted for LV.
Or is his replacement going to be town suddenly?
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Why are you not counting Koshi his vote? D:
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Move to bereft guys.
gogogogo!
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On September 09 2013 05:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 05:28 infii wrote:On September 09 2013 05:27 Koshi wrote:On September 09 2013 05:20 infii wrote:
Koshi what do you think about LoneMeow? Ok for now. What do you think about the guy that is voting for a guy that claimed RB? You can read up my thoughts about Umasi in my analysis. Nothing has changed. Cool. I think you are pretty town. Or a scummer that has a death wish. Claiming RB.
claiming roleblock is totally unindicative of alignment. we've had this conversation already.
Just in general koshi, you need to explain yourself more.
saying the scum team is killerdog bereft umasi without any kind of anything to back it up is fucking ridiculous.
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I'm not sure lynching bereft/lonemeow is the best idea. Neither of them have really posted much since yesterday, and considering they read more town to me then chairman ray, and chairman ray was town, thats not enough to base a lynch off alone. If they were here I'd be all for pressuring them, to see if they bring it when it matters.
If we lynch one of them and they flip town, what is the contingency plan? We are in a day three with an inactive and two replacements, (or worse, a lylo with 1 inactive and koshi if velocity gets modkilled and was town.) And where do we go from there?
Unless you plan on never killing myrzeth, we need to get rid of him. We can't rely on hitting a mafia this round, and if we hit town, we can't risk the entire game by killing myrzeth in a mylo situation. The further into the game we go the more costly a wasted lynch gets.
Koshi, what is your reasoning for/for not killing myrzeth tonight?
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On September 09 2013 05:57 Koshi wrote:
Why are you not counting Koshi his vote? D:
sorry about that, fixed :D
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/afk for about fifteen minutes
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Right now it feels like all that's happening (other then holyflare and infii going back and forth) is koshi and holyflare pushing for voting for people who aren't here.
Where is everyone else? If you're reading please speak T.T
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I'm here man and I don't like Koshi's reasoning at all, though he has a point with Bereft...
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On September 09 2013 06:00 killerdog wrote:
1) I'm not sure lynching bereft/lonemeow is the best idea. Neither of them have really posted much since yesterday,
2) Koshi, what is your reasoning for/for not killing myrzeth tonight?
On September 09 2013 06:01 killerdog wrote:
Right now it feels like all that's happening (other then holyflare and infii going back and forth) 3) is koshi and holyflare pushing for voting for people who aren't here.
Where is everyone else? If you're reading please speak T.T
O rly?
You going to blame us for pushing people that can't defend themselves?
Have you even read your cases?
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On September 09 2013 05:42 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone wants to lynch myrzeth they are scummy, as i see it it's pretty much mylo right know as even if the replacements are scum they are fresh players and our reads on them will be so wifomy that we won't have any clue if they are scum or not so we need to lynch the people we have information on, myrzeth is looking scummy but hasn't said anything for us to determine whether he is scum or not. In that regard i think we should lynch someone on the ray bandwagon like i said and i feel that killer is too towny to lynch and umasi im undecided on so that only really leaves lone? I don't like the logic of this post. Maybe I've just misunderstood it though. You're saying it's mylo because unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're going to end up in a situation tomorrow with potentiallly 3 players, (myrzeth, pharcyd3 replacement and koshi) who haven't said shit. Therefore, unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're done tomorrow. (sorry if I misunderstood.) The issue i have with that is, if you're afraid of being in a situation where people haven't spoken enough, why on earth do you not want to lynch myrzeth. If we lynch myrzeth tonight, and he's mafia, then we have breathing room and can use the extra time to find mafia. If he's town we're in mylo tomorrow (or lylo if velocity gets modkilled) but with 1-2 less quiet people complicating everything. If we lynch someone else and they're mafia, we gain an extra turn or two to get reads/lynch myrzeth (if he's still afk.) If we lynch someone else and they're town, we're in lylo/mylo tomorrow, except we will have 2 or 3 people who we have no reads on, instead of 1-2. It's a bit of a prisoners dilema situation, but I see it as, lynch a mafia tonight, good. myrzeth and he flips town, bad. Lynch someone else and they're town, worse. Therefore you'd have to think someone is almost for sure scum to lynch them tonight in place of myrzeth. While there are scummy people here and there, I'm not sure if anyone qualifies as scummy enough. Secondly, You're giving two of the scummier people a free pass out of being voted off. If either velocity or myrzeth are scum (and I think the chances of them both being town are pretty low) then there are only 2 mafia in the rest of the game. (worst case scenario 1 if koshi is mafia.) If koshi is mafia, then (even assuming one of infii/lonemeow is mafia) we have a 50% chance of fucking ourselves if we pick the wrong one. I'm not we have to lynch myrzeth at all, I'm just saying I think going "whoever wants to lynch myrzeth is scum" is stupid, especially for the reasons you gave.
Here is your previous post again.
tldr: lynch people who don't talk much.
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On September 09 2013 06:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 06:00 killerdog wrote:
1) I'm not sure lynching bereft/lonemeow is the best idea. Neither of them have really posted much since yesterday,
2) Koshi, what is your reasoning for/for not killing myrzeth tonight? Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 06:01 killerdog wrote:
Right now it feels like all that's happening (other then holyflare and infii going back and forth) 3) is koshi and holyflare pushing for voting for people who aren't here.
Where is everyone else? If you're reading please speak T.T O rly? You going to blame us for pushing people that can't defend themselves? Have you even read your cases?
I've stated my reasons for not wanting to vote for bereft/lonemeow unless we're sure they're scum already. And given this is a newbie game, they could easily have been just suspicious town play (as evidenced by chairman ray.) I would much prefer to at least have a chance to see them respond to the accusations, and make a judgement then.
Have you been reading my posts?
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On September 09 2013 06:05 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 05:42 killerdog wrote:On September 09 2013 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone wants to lynch myrzeth they are scummy, as i see it it's pretty much mylo right know as even if the replacements are scum they are fresh players and our reads on them will be so wifomy that we won't have any clue if they are scum or not so we need to lynch the people we have information on, myrzeth is looking scummy but hasn't said anything for us to determine whether he is scum or not. In that regard i think we should lynch someone on the ray bandwagon like i said and i feel that killer is too towny to lynch and umasi im undecided on so that only really leaves lone? I don't like the logic of this post. Maybe I've just misunderstood it though. You're saying it's mylo because unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're going to end up in a situation tomorrow with potentiallly 3 players, (myrzeth, pharcyd3 replacement and koshi) who haven't said shit. Therefore, unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're done tomorrow. (sorry if I misunderstood.) The issue i have with that is, if you're afraid of being in a situation where people haven't spoken enough, why on earth do you not want to lynch myrzeth. If we lynch myrzeth tonight, and he's mafia, then we have breathing room and can use the extra time to find mafia. If he's town we're in mylo tomorrow (or lylo if velocity gets modkilled) but with 1-2 less quiet people complicating everything. If we lynch someone else and they're mafia, we gain an extra turn or two to get reads/lynch myrzeth (if he's still afk.) If we lynch someone else and they're town, we're in lylo/mylo tomorrow, except we will have 2 or 3 people who we have no reads on, instead of 1-2. It's a bit of a prisoners dilema situation, but I see it as, lynch a mafia tonight, good. myrzeth and he flips town, bad. Lynch someone else and they're town, worse. Therefore you'd have to think someone is almost for sure scum to lynch them tonight in place of myrzeth. While there are scummy people here and there, I'm not sure if anyone qualifies as scummy enough. Secondly, You're giving two of the scummier people a free pass out of being voted off. If either velocity or myrzeth are scum (and I think the chances of them both being town are pretty low) then there are only 2 mafia in the rest of the game. (worst case scenario 1 if koshi is mafia.) If koshi is mafia, then (even assuming one of infii/lonemeow is mafia) we have a 50% chance of fucking ourselves if we pick the wrong one. I'm not we have to lynch myrzeth at all, I'm just saying I think going "whoever wants to lynch myrzeth is scum" is stupid, especially for the reasons you gave. Here is your previous post again. tldr: lynch people who don't talk much.
So why are you so against lynching myrzeth?
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On September 09 2013 06:08 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 06:04 Koshi wrote:On September 09 2013 06:00 killerdog wrote:
1) I'm not sure lynching bereft/lonemeow is the best idea. Neither of them have really posted much since yesterday,
2) Koshi, what is your reasoning for/for not killing myrzeth tonight? On September 09 2013 06:01 killerdog wrote:
Right now it feels like all that's happening (other then holyflare and infii going back and forth) 3) is koshi and holyflare pushing for voting for people who aren't here.
Where is everyone else? If you're reading please speak T.T O rly? You going to blame us for pushing people that can't defend themselves? Have you even read your cases? I've stated my reasons for not wanting to vote for bereft/lonemeow unless we're sure they're scum already. And given this is a newbie game, they could easily have been just suspicious town play (as evidenced by chairman ray.) I would much prefer to at least have a chance to see them respond to the accusations, and make a judgement then. Have you been reading my posts?
yes. I was not impressed.
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On September 09 2013 06:09 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 06:05 Koshi wrote:On September 09 2013 05:42 killerdog wrote:On September 09 2013 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone wants to lynch myrzeth they are scummy, as i see it it's pretty much mylo right know as even if the replacements are scum they are fresh players and our reads on them will be so wifomy that we won't have any clue if they are scum or not so we need to lynch the people we have information on, myrzeth is looking scummy but hasn't said anything for us to determine whether he is scum or not. In that regard i think we should lynch someone on the ray bandwagon like i said and i feel that killer is too towny to lynch and umasi im undecided on so that only really leaves lone? I don't like the logic of this post. Maybe I've just misunderstood it though. You're saying it's mylo because unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're going to end up in a situation tomorrow with potentiallly 3 players, (myrzeth, pharcyd3 replacement and koshi) who haven't said shit. Therefore, unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're done tomorrow. (sorry if I misunderstood.) The issue i have with that is, if you're afraid of being in a situation where people haven't spoken enough, why on earth do you not want to lynch myrzeth. If we lynch myrzeth tonight, and he's mafia, then we have breathing room and can use the extra time to find mafia. If he's town we're in mylo tomorrow (or lylo if velocity gets modkilled) but with 1-2 less quiet people complicating everything. If we lynch someone else and they're mafia, we gain an extra turn or two to get reads/lynch myrzeth (if he's still afk.) If we lynch someone else and they're town, we're in lylo/mylo tomorrow, except we will have 2 or 3 people who we have no reads on, instead of 1-2. It's a bit of a prisoners dilema situation, but I see it as, lynch a mafia tonight, good. myrzeth and he flips town, bad. Lynch someone else and they're town, worse. Therefore you'd have to think someone is almost for sure scum to lynch them tonight in place of myrzeth. While there are scummy people here and there, I'm not sure if anyone qualifies as scummy enough. Secondly, You're giving two of the scummier people a free pass out of being voted off. If either velocity or myrzeth are scum (and I think the chances of them both being town are pretty low) then there are only 2 mafia in the rest of the game. (worst case scenario 1 if koshi is mafia.) If koshi is mafia, then (even assuming one of infii/lonemeow is mafia) we have a 50% chance of fucking ourselves if we pick the wrong one. I'm not we have to lynch myrzeth at all, I'm just saying I think going "whoever wants to lynch myrzeth is scum" is stupid, especially for the reasons you gave. Here is your previous post again. tldr: lynch people who don't talk much. So why are you so against lynching myrzeth?
I am not against it.
I found scum in bereft and want to lynch him over a nullread.
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On September 09 2013 06:10 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 06:09 killerdog wrote:On September 09 2013 06:05 Koshi wrote:On September 09 2013 05:42 killerdog wrote:On September 09 2013 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone wants to lynch myrzeth they are scummy, as i see it it's pretty much mylo right know as even if the replacements are scum they are fresh players and our reads on them will be so wifomy that we won't have any clue if they are scum or not so we need to lynch the people we have information on, myrzeth is looking scummy but hasn't said anything for us to determine whether he is scum or not. In that regard i think we should lynch someone on the ray bandwagon like i said and i feel that killer is too towny to lynch and umasi im undecided on so that only really leaves lone? I don't like the logic of this post. Maybe I've just misunderstood it though. You're saying it's mylo because unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're going to end up in a situation tomorrow with potentiallly 3 players, (myrzeth, pharcyd3 replacement and koshi) who haven't said shit. Therefore, unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're done tomorrow. (sorry if I misunderstood.) The issue i have with that is, if you're afraid of being in a situation where people haven't spoken enough, why on earth do you not want to lynch myrzeth. If we lynch myrzeth tonight, and he's mafia, then we have breathing room and can use the extra time to find mafia. If he's town we're in mylo tomorrow (or lylo if velocity gets modkilled) but with 1-2 less quiet people complicating everything. If we lynch someone else and they're mafia, we gain an extra turn or two to get reads/lynch myrzeth (if he's still afk.) If we lynch someone else and they're town, we're in lylo/mylo tomorrow, except we will have 2 or 3 people who we have no reads on, instead of 1-2. It's a bit of a prisoners dilema situation, but I see it as, lynch a mafia tonight, good. myrzeth and he flips town, bad. Lynch someone else and they're town, worse. Therefore you'd have to think someone is almost for sure scum to lynch them tonight in place of myrzeth. While there are scummy people here and there, I'm not sure if anyone qualifies as scummy enough. Secondly, You're giving two of the scummier people a free pass out of being voted off. If either velocity or myrzeth are scum (and I think the chances of them both being town are pretty low) then there are only 2 mafia in the rest of the game. (worst case scenario 1 if koshi is mafia.) If koshi is mafia, then (even assuming one of infii/lonemeow is mafia) we have a 50% chance of fucking ourselves if we pick the wrong one. I'm not we have to lynch myrzeth at all, I'm just saying I think going "whoever wants to lynch myrzeth is scum" is stupid, especially for the reasons you gave. Here is your previous post again. tldr: lynch people who don't talk much. So why are you so against lynching myrzeth? I am not against it. I found scum in bereft and want to lynch him over a nullread.
Isn't lurking a scum trait?
However, considering how late Koshi went in he can't really afford to make long cases against people. So I don't blame him for that.
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I need to go afk for a while. Will be back before deadline.
It's better that you guys control the tread anyway.
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On September 09 2013 06:12 infii wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 06:10 Koshi wrote:On September 09 2013 06:09 killerdog wrote:On September 09 2013 06:05 Koshi wrote:On September 09 2013 05:42 killerdog wrote:On September 09 2013 02:10 Holyflare wrote:
If anyone wants to lynch myrzeth they are scummy, as i see it it's pretty much mylo right know as even if the replacements are scum they are fresh players and our reads on them will be so wifomy that we won't have any clue if they are scum or not so we need to lynch the people we have information on, myrzeth is looking scummy but hasn't said anything for us to determine whether he is scum or not. In that regard i think we should lynch someone on the ray bandwagon like i said and i feel that killer is too towny to lynch and umasi im undecided on so that only really leaves lone? I don't like the logic of this post. Maybe I've just misunderstood it though. You're saying it's mylo because unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're going to end up in a situation tomorrow with potentiallly 3 players, (myrzeth, pharcyd3 replacement and koshi) who haven't said shit. Therefore, unless we lynch a mafia tonight, we're done tomorrow. (sorry if I misunderstood.) The issue i have with that is, if you're afraid of being in a situation where people haven't spoken enough, why on earth do you not want to lynch myrzeth. If we lynch myrzeth tonight, and he's mafia, then we have breathing room and can use the extra time to find mafia. If he's town we're in mylo tomorrow (or lylo if velocity gets modkilled) but with 1-2 less quiet people complicating everything. If we lynch someone else and they're mafia, we gain an extra turn or two to get reads/lynch myrzeth (if he's still afk.) If we lynch someone else and they're town, we're in lylo/mylo tomorrow, except we will have 2 or 3 people who we have no reads on, instead of 1-2. It's a bit of a prisoners dilema situation, but I see it as, lynch a mafia tonight, good. myrzeth and he flips town, bad. Lynch someone else and they're town, worse. Therefore you'd have to think someone is almost for sure scum to lynch them tonight in place of myrzeth. While there are scummy people here and there, I'm not sure if anyone qualifies as scummy enough. Secondly, You're giving two of the scummier people a free pass out of being voted off. If either velocity or myrzeth are scum (and I think the chances of them both being town are pretty low) then there are only 2 mafia in the rest of the game. (worst case scenario 1 if koshi is mafia.) If koshi is mafia, then (even assuming one of infii/lonemeow is mafia) we have a 50% chance of fucking ourselves if we pick the wrong one. I'm not we have to lynch myrzeth at all, I'm just saying I think going "whoever wants to lynch myrzeth is scum" is stupid, especially for the reasons you gave. Here is your previous post again. tldr: lynch people who don't talk much. So why are you so against lynching myrzeth? I am not against it. I found scum in bereft and want to lynch him over a nullread. Isn't lurking a scum trait? However, considering how late Koshi went in he can't really afford to make long cases against people. So I don't blame him for that.
Meh, posting just enough to not get lynched is a scumtrait.
Not posting at all is way too may times town trait.
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