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On September 10 2013 06:42 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 06:40 austinmcc wrote:On September 10 2013 06:39 Cephiro wrote:
In that case, either WaveOfShadow or the killer of VayneAuthority would have that item. I have not seen Wave claiming it, I do not believe he has one. I assume scum killed Vayne, I am sure they would have used the item already. I would have used mine instantly on D3 if I could have. Thus, we can safely assume Zentor flips. Wat? How do you know who Koshi gave items to? Did I miss something? .... I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE THIS SHIT. Because I got the Crusher from him, according to his role the other person should be right next to me. READ FOR GOD'S SAKE. I don't understand how you bring that theory up but won't even think it through. Either he gave it to just me (which I assume to be correct), or then the other scenario I told above.
I read the bolded and forgot about the specific targets bit 
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Oh cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese,
care to give your own read on Hiro?
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I don't understand this at all really. Zentor scum, but Zentor on Axle is a good thing and Zentor not moving to a HiroPro who had 7 votes isn't a signal of anything at all (hint hint).
It's almost like Zentor didn't want to lynch Hiro.
Then WoS, claimed 3P, comes in and tells people to vote AxleGreaser. Suddenly, after a long period of standoff, mass swap over to AxleGreaser.
I will again ask everyone on Axle:
(1) What is your read on HiroPro, based on his actions BEFORE the crushing?
(2) What would scum HiroPro do if asked to crush scum Zentor?
Heck, we can add a (3).
(3) How do you read HiroPro's actions AFTER getting a bunch of votes on him today?
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If nothing else, CEPHIRO IS TELLING HIROPRO TO CRUSH ZENTOR AND HIROPRO IS DOING THAT.
Look at Zentor's response to this whole thing.
Oh man, sure looks like items are going from scum to town here.
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Oh crap Axle be the anti-WoS. Tell everyone you're posting from your phone and that HiroPro is scum and curse a bunch.
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I'm going to again point out that NOBODY but Cephiro seems to have a reason that HiroPro is town.
I'm going to again point out that Zentor is on AxleGreaser, saying HiroPro wouldn't have gotten votes, and ... just posted that.
I'm going to point out that...these are not facts that lead me to believe HiroPro is town.
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On September 10 2013 08:57 AxleGreaser wrote:
was leeping is the best I have got.
and as AFr as i know is best I dont claim tonight ???????????????
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Day ended, just no post yet, afaik. Think we're all sitting and waiting.
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Someone has some explaining to do.
Cephiro, Hiro, Zentor.....I'm looking at you specifically.
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We'll find out. I kind of assumed that I was in the clear because given OO's flip scum couldn't roleblock both you AND stutters, so someone would get a vote through. Now we find out.
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Stutters and cake, dunno if it'll go through or not, but you know where your votes are going.
Randombum, if you're town, vote for not you.
As much as I'd like to try and sleeper shoot a number of other people right now, this is the last bullet and still best to fire at random.
Cephiro, whenever you're on again, ...
(1) You gave the D6 to Zentor...to see how he'd use it?
(2) You were waiting to see about his actions N3 before crushing him D4. I assume if he'd used it we would have known, which means he didn't use it, which means....you had hiro crush Zentor because he...did NOT use the D6?
(3) Why would you give the D6 away period?
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Referring to this bit, specifically 2. I wanted to hear what Zentor claimed to do N3, as well as his reaction to using my item. Knowing what item I gave him, his reaction doesn't make any sense. Scales tipped over in favour of shooting him, so I wanted Hiro to kill him.
Cuz it makes it sound a heck of a lot like you gave Zentor the D6 to see what he'd do with it, and his not using it made no sense, so you asked Hiro to kill him.
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Stutters and cakepie, hopefully you both sent in shots on bum.
Kill scum before 3Ps. Risen's claim sounds more legit than VE and WoS. Something was redacted, they're connected, and there are clearly things WoS didn't want everyone to know, despite claiming that he's neutral mcneutralface.
Zentor's role PM also looks fake, like he might just have the first ability or some form of that and then made stuff up. Can ask for powers or items? Can roleblock everyone? Questionable.
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awwwwww snap. gg all.
Thanks grey and crossfire for hosting, really enjoyed the game and it felt like it went very smoothly for all the moving parts it had.
Gogo scumteam! So many posts, so much paranoia, but hooray victory! Aperture Science wins again!
VE I 10000% thought that you got rezzed as a suit of armor and maybe had your powers or win condition changed, wasn't even joking about that.
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On September 11 2013 11:51 randombum wrote:
Why did the soul gem gun not work?
From our QT
"You have received a Soul Gun, This gun allows you to shoot any player at night for 1 kp. However, it requires that you charge the bullet with your own soul. Your soul, in turn, will become linked to the creator of the gun. If the creator of the gun would die, except by lynch, you will take one of the shots. This gun may only be used once before becoming inoperable"
As Koshi is dead, hosts decided to not let the gun work, since my soul can't be bound to Koshi anymore.
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It didn't help that our team kept throwing you under the bus, random. Once you started looking scummy everyone gave up on defending you or anything because if you get lynched, oh well.
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On September 11 2013 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok some random questions/comment:
What was up with Black Mesa?
WHO THE FUCK WAS YI
Is 8-man scumteam and that many 3P really balanced? ( I assume it is given town roles but jeez)
Town and scum each having basically a 6-shot vet? Wat?
I don't think my body was quite ready for the chaos that happens in an Aperture game. (Speaking of Chaos...what was that? Was it used?)
Also, I find anger works really really well for me. No hard feelings Axle? I didn't mean any of it, I swear! :D Oh yeah! What was Chaos Reigns?
And also Grey, I asked if you had any games in mind when making the dimensional lemming role, what were some other games you thought scum could take advantage of (not that we even took advantage of a no-flip lynch world )?
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On September 11 2013 12:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol damn. Felkyr wasn't on my 'plays League' list because I don't know him haha As do I.
That was such a weird thing for everyone to be concerned about, although I guess it got relevant once we realized there were so many 3Ps and someone ELSE had claimed too.
He just gave the occasional report on what was happening in BM chat, and got lucky to get GF and checked by someone who got confirmed-ish.
Actually, I thought given the size and pace of the game + rolling scum, he did a pretty solid job.
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On September 11 2013 12:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah he defs did.
Is there any way to read the scum QT in one page? Because fuck clicking that shit 1000 times.
Greymist and I were also talking about this last night, but I'm pretty sure we agreed that TL scumteams are strong lately. Or that TL towns in general are just real shit. Maybe both. I think the main thing that I noticed this game as scum was just a ... distinct lack of town leadership.
D1 was wonky because the lynch didn't matter.
D2 we had a double lynch and people missing actions and whatnot.
The whole time, we were aiming early night kills at people that were vocal/threatening, and once we hit D3 discussion just kind of shut down. Some of that was the scum/3P numbers, I don't think we expected 6 non-scum NKs on N2, but Closed Casket's D3 was empty, and regular game's D3 was empty up until the final bit, and might have stayed a lot emptier if OO didn't choose to shoot debears.
D4 same thing, no town leadership despite cephiro trying, and everyone pushing their own targets of choice. People so focused on roles and mechanics that nobody ever really scumhunted and made cases, they just focused in on whatever mechanics or roles they didn't like, and that meant everyone was on different pages and couldn't get a lot of good lynch discussion going.
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That was also a problem, we had so many scum that we bussed each other like crazy a lot of the game.
Scum nearly got slam lynched, were going to lynch him D3 before the modkill. I could have hammered debears D3 instead of OO and did have a post ready to do so. My sleeper cell shot twice, and I aimed both of the shots at scum ... Almost all the scum members called randombum scummy, but because of my role there wasn't a push to lynch him. Would have been very difficult to really squeeze much out of votes because of all the bussing.
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