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justanothertownie
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 30 2013 00:02 justanothertownie wrote: I won't defend Mocsta - that's his job. I don't need to prove myself in the slightest. I will try to analyse the game today and find scum not defend someone I am unsure about. Tss. But you feel Mocsta had reads and tried to follow up on these reads through the game? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Remember Cephiro was leading in the votes with 2 votes over LM. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Lets take a look at 1 of the interaction from Mocsta. D1: I love you rayn. rayn, is Koshi scum he attacks me but I am not sure though. Oh yeah Koshi totes scum thank you for showing this rayn. I love you so much rayn. You so town. N1: Hi rayn. Yeah everything is good with me. Also everything ok with you? D2: Are we still buds rayn? Yeah, the love is a bit gone now. Dnu why. N2: Why do you say I am scum rayn? You are scummy! D3: Pff let's ignore rayn and let me make 2 scumcases and a towncase on some random dudes. N3: rayn is on my shitpile. ^ That's exactly how it went. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On September 30 2013 00:08 Koshi wrote: Like LM, when was the first time Mocsta thought this guy was scum, and why did he first believe the docclaim but after that just decided to claim doc himself and save cephiro. Confirmed scum by now. Remember Cephiro was leading in the votes with 2 votes over LM. Are you still talking to me? I know this, I even asked Mocsta about this myself. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Kill Mocsta with fire tomorrow. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
Should I die, kill Mocsta then Geript then only after both of them are dead and only maybe VE. Do not get swayed from this. Mocsta big play was extremely scummy. That's the bottom line. Don't bring "that play is too crazy for scum to make" logic into it, because it was an illogical play and that's what a scum Mocsta would want. On top of this, since his actions he's become a leader of discussion. This means we have someone who made the scummiest play I've ever seen in my life leading conversation topics. No. Geript next because he's been harping on me STILL. He tried swaying the lynch away from Ceph at a time when that was possible with bad town play. I'm serious, his defense is probably either "Oh Risen top scum read so of course town me presses on him". No. Other defense possible would be "Oh I knew no one would swap but I wanted to pressure him". Still no. Lastly VE, who tried swapping to someone I can't remember at this point. I told him it was not town, and he continued. To me that reads as someone who figures if they stop it will be considered wishy washy and scummy. A town player wouldn't worry about that and would just keep the pressure up. Scum player would worry and keep the crazy on b/c he would try to appear consistent. This is reaching, though. After those other two are gone there will be like 6 more days of filter to look at for him, so no hurry. Other person I would want to see dead for want of seeing his color would be Mattchew. Why isn't he dead yet? He looks like he's trying to front as a hiding blue. I'm pretty sure that's what he's trying to appear as, but even with that there's just not enough effort from a town hiding blue and I feel like I remember Mattchew being good at mafia. | ||
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ObviousOne
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Risen
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geript
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 30 2013 07:24 geript wrote: Let's see did risen try to point out how either Moc or me are scum? Nope. He's not even bothering. I normally wouldn't respond to you, but this post just strengthens my points so I'm going to quote it. In spite of trying to pressure me, he continues to not read my posts fully. I very clearly outlined why both of you are scum. Mocsta: Most scum aligned play I've ever seen saving another scum player. Geript: Attempted to move the wagon away from Ceph, who we now know is scum. Continues to not read the posts of the person he harps on. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 30 2013 07:28 Risen wrote: I normally wouldn't respond to you, but this post just strengthens my points so I'm going to quote it. In spite of trying to pressure me, he continues to not read my posts fully. I very clearly outlined why both of you are scum. Mocsta: Most scum aligned play I've ever seen saving another scum player. Geript: Attempted to move the wagon away from Ceph, who we now know is scum. Continues to not read the posts of the person he harps on. So me attempting to move the wagon means that I'm specifically scum. Now you're bullshitting entirely because VE attempted to do the same exact thing but you're not 100% scum on him for that reason. You're scum and need to be shot and if a vig doesn't shoot you this game and instead listens to you and shoots me then I will rage so hard at that stupid motherfucker in postgame and obs thread that they'll wish their unborn child had died instead. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 30 2013 04:54 Risen wrote: Geript next because he's been harping on me STILL. He tried swaying the lynch away from Ceph at a time when that was possible with bad town play. I'm serious, his defense is probably either "Oh Risen top scum read so of course town me presses on him". No. Other defense possible would be "Oh I knew no one would swap but I wanted to pressure him". Still no. Lastly VE, who tried swapping to someone I can't remember at this point. I told him it was not town, and he continued. To me that reads as someone who figures if they stop it will be considered wishy washy and scummy. A town player wouldn't worry about that and would just keep the pressure up. Scum player would worry and keep the crazy on b/c he would try to appear consistent. This is reaching, though. After those other two are gone there will be like 6 more days of filter to look at for him, so no hurry. On September 30 2013 07:28 Risen wrote: I normally wouldn't respond to you, but this post just strengthens my points so I'm going to quote it. In spite of trying to pressure me, he continues to not read my posts fully. I very clearly outlined why both of you are scum. Mocsta: Most scum aligned play I've ever seen saving another scum player. Geript: Attempted to move the wagon away from Ceph, who we now know is scum. Continues to not read the posts of the person he harps on. On top of all of the other bullshit he's spewing, he's not even reading his own posts. He's posting with 0 thought en total. He's not trying to figure out why Moc or I are scum. He's just trying to paint us red. He says one thing is towny, then in the next post he calls it scummy. RISEN IS NOT CONCERNED WITH GETTING A SCUM LYNCH AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RISEN IS FUCKING SCUM BECAUSE HE'S CONCERNED WITH GETTING ANY AVAILABLE LYNCH FOR WHATEVER BULLSHIT REASON HE WANTS AT THE TIME!!!!! HE DOESN'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT WHO OR WHAT OR WHY OR WHEN. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On top of that he has been overall very aggressive which typically is more likely to come from town. Also this would be a clever post for a scum to make. On September 29 2013 11:45 geript wrote: So why are we playing? Nobody knows the deadline and nobody can keep a deadline. JAT is also just another townie misguided but townie none the less On September 29 2013 12:21 justanothertownie wrote: I don't like this post. No, not at all. While he is wrong here as we just want to give the best chance for mafia to waste kp and since their are no super obvious glowing townies that are likely to be shot coag makes the most since for medic protection and is the only logical choice. His quick aggression against me is more likely to come from an over aggressive townie. Townies sometimes just act without a filter and this didnt look like a scum calculated aggression to me. It looked spontaneous and natural to me. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 24 2013 08:17 Risen wrote: Wat... Worst justification for not voting FT ever. First off, Risen calls out Ceph for bad reasoning which is EASY TO DO as scum on scum. The important difference is how he follows up. He's not interested in pressuring him. He's not interested in trying to throw the "public town eye" further towards him. He doesn't do shit about it. On September 24 2013 12:20 Risen wrote: FT/Cephiro the lynch targets here. I'll vote Cephiro. Don't trust the #stagedhype surrounding FT lynch. On September 24 2013 12:21 Risen wrote: EBWOP: Nope, never mind. No way a town FT comes out with a vote on VE. Instavote and insta switch. Again SUPER EASY justification to switch his vote off of scum. As town, I don't give a fuck who I vote for; I'll throw my weight around as I want and pressure like a hammer in thread or in vote. Nor do I generally care who the fuck votes for who because it doesn't help me. But one thing I know is that throwing out an odd vote is odd and it's fine to pressure for that but justifying voting for someone who you "don't believe the hype" on and then instaswitch on them just for a weird vote is ridiculously odd and scummy. On September 24 2013 12:25 Risen wrote: No you aren't. Unless a doctor claims the save you could easily just be saying you got protected and you're scum. Doctor don't claim, though... that would be stupid. Next Risen tries to discredit Yam despite the fact that the only way Yam is scum pulling this off is if Coag is also scum. 2 people pulling that type of play as scum is gutsy and stupid and puts you at risk for very little reason. He's not furthering the discussion or pushing a point other than throwing dirt. SCUM SCUM SCUM On September 25 2013 02:41 Risen wrote: That hasn't been confirmed. How do you know there's a framer/GF in this game? Nitpick here, but it seems pretty scummy to me. It isn't a full blown scumslip, but it's something a townie should realize before posting whereas someone with the knowledge that both roles are actively in the game might screw up. A town VA is someone I'd kill if I was scum. Dude pretty much had lynch armor because of my actions toward him. Though keeping him alive would have made a mislynch onto me much easier so maybe he wasn't a very good kill. My scum reads are Cephiro, FT, Mocsta, Sentinel First three have been explained, Sentinel because of what OO just pointed out. I'm down for lynching anyone here, but would definitely prefer Cephiro or FT. Probably FT at this point. Mocsta and Sent scum reads come out of nowhere. The Mocsta read is complete bullshit as anyone who's read the OP would fully expect Framers/GF/whatever. Hell, we didn't even fucking know that Vanilla Scum could exist. More importantly, this was at the time when many people were leaning towards on Sent. No anaylsis of him just a generic +1 of a lynch. Bottom line: FT, Moc and Sent are town because Risen is scum and scum never put more than 1 other scum in their list. On September 25 2013 02:46 Risen wrote: Because doctors have never tried to hide over being 100% transparent town. Cmon marv... This isn't even a defense of Matt, it's just me pointing out a flaw for your vote/unvote/vote. Why is Matt scum, again? I see no compelling reason to lynch Matt over FT. Marv should know this, especially since he's such a town leader at the moment and of the votes on Matt his is the only one that actually matters. Why is this phrase necessary? If it's bullshit reasoning Marv should be called on the table for his read and vote/unvote/vote. This phrase is just him trying to not draw attention to himself. "Uhh i'm not calling you scum, I just want to get this clarified without really getting in the discussion." On September 25 2013 04:50 Risen wrote: What a scummy defense making it try to look like the problem with Cephiro is apathy over the glaring faults in his posting. So LeonMeow is scummier for voting for your scum read because of the specific reasons that he gives? Apathy can be a VERY VALID reason for being scum. Yet again, this is just shit flinging on another lynchable player. On September 25 2013 12:40 Risen wrote: FT saved yesterday, not getting lynched today. Makes sense. DP was right about mods saving FT b/c he's scum, imo. More bullshit "reasons" for FT to be scum. On September 25 2013 14:24 Risen wrote: I think he's been told by his scum buddies to keep quiet and not to mess things up for himself and more than he already has. On September 25 2013 15:32 Risen wrote: Really hope Matt is scum or I'm going to be in a tight spot. In other news, lynch FT. I could see a marv lynch, too. Or Cephiro who is still absent. Mocsta with the ole' "lol your post is too long and I'm scum so that's too much effort to respond to/opens me up too much to appearing scummy so I'm not changing my mind" post. About an hour apart from each other. FT is scum because he's quiet and absent but Cephiro isnt. He's just trying to push the FT lynch over Ceph without giving himself a backdoor into the Ceph lynch if it becomes favorable. On September 26 2013 02:21 Risen wrote: I'm not moving my vote until it becomes clear Cephiro is going to be lynched over FT, who still, in spite of no redeeming qualities in his posting today, is not the leading lynch candidate. Team plz Still pushing FT over Ceph. | ||
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geript
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Tomorrow I ll find our lynch. Mocsta/rayn/VE/Risen all energy on those 4 people. FT feels like crapshoot atm.... but he can be 5 target. Just use all available time on those. I'll look into all. But I know I prefer Mocsta for tomorrow. | ||
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Pandain
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