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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 12:10 GMT
#4201
I told him he is scum too and he vanished.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 12:11 GMT
#4202
On September 26 2013 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is what Koshi looks like to me in this game:

D1 start. Fucking clueless as mafia. Then he gets accused. Then this happens (from GoT scum QT):
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raynpelikoneet
08-08-2013
06:20 PM ET (US)
You can accuse fellow mafians if you have a "good" reason to. We are good enough to defend ourselves. Just do not make an idiot out of yourself by stupid stuff, that gets you policy lynched.

For example, if there is anything that contradicts with your mindset in me, ask me questions. Be aggressive towards me. I do not mind, i can defend myself. You need to interact with your scumbuddies aswell, because we will lose member(s) at some point and you look terrible if you do not talk about your scumbuddies at all.

Especially now when you are "under attack", even if you make a case on scum, you have no credit. There is no harm, IF YOUR CASE IS BELIEVEABLE from town pov. It does not have to be right, it has to be so that you look town.

If you dunno how to do that, attack suspicious townies instead. :D
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raynpelikoneet
08-08-2013
06:15 PM ET (US)
Do not afk. That´s the worst thing you can do. I´m gonna push a lynch on a lurker if necessay (FT, Risen looks really bad, nachodude, Sharrant, etc.)

Just remember this: Keep track of where your town!mind is. What are your "intentions", who do you think is mafia, what has your game plan been, who does oppose your game plan and "what that might mean".

You are ok if you follow these things, whether or not you are right.
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Koshi
08-08-2013
06:08 PM ET (US)
How do I enter the thread now? Or do I keep afk?
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Koshi
08-08-2013
06:07 PM ET (US)
Ok, then I hold it back for when people ask me questions. I can trow Clarity under the bus at the same time because he soft defended OAts twice already and FoS me with a silly reason.
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raynpelikoneet
08-08-2013
06:05 PM ET (US)
TLDR; It does not matter who you accuse, but keep your story straight.
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raynpelikoneet
08-08-2013
06:04 PM ET (US)
I dunno. Seems like a forced case to me (going MIA is not a scumtell). Keeping house names secret might be, if you can convince other people that is the right thing to do (revealing them), how did you act on th ebeginning regarding that? Did you immediately reveal house names? If you didn´t, why is Oats scum because of that for you? Having no scumreads and living happily ever after in his house might be scummy, it also might be that he genuinely thought everyone is town. How do you "prove" that?

Make a case if you think it´s gonna be good enough, but think about what you say.
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Koshi
08-08-2013
05:58 PM ET (US)
Could I make a case around Oats? Or do people see him as town? He is asleep atm so he can't retaliate for a couple of hours.
My case would be around the fact that in the first 6 hours he prevented scumhunting by trying to keep house names a secret, while when I tried to create a better atmosphere to scumhunt he shot me down asking silly questions (page 20 pages long when there were only 6 pages) or him blaming me for having no scumreads while he was only sharing townreads based on "friendly and shit". When SnB came in saying that there were some problems in their House, Oats suddenly went MIA.


Except that now he does not need anyone to tell that because i even put that in thread for DP on D1. What does Koshi do? This:
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On August 12 2013 22:21 Koshi wrote:
If I ever host a game it will have a minimum 10 posts a day rule.
Or maybe next game I play in I will start a policy that you need to make 10 posts a day otherwise you get lynched. If you are town and you don't post 10 times you just fail at life and at this game.

Always the same people talking and I can't read any of them, except give them a town read...

EXCEPT
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On August 12 2013 02:55 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?


Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad"

You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost.
I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum.

The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing?

no the likeliest conclusion is that gum was shot by a town vig at the end of the night when he was still alive.

I have such a problem with this post. Like which stupid vigi is going to use his shot on a guy that has almost no hp? 6 Lords should have killed gumshoe and if gumshoe was still alive at the end of the day he should have been checked by a Lord on n2. Or even n1 like iamp did but then it is VERY suspicious that after the 1 hp check on gumshoe, gumshoe dies. The chance that scum spent a part or all their KP on is 0%. The only reason scum would target gum is if they knew he was blue or they knew he had 1 hp and gambled blue.

So if there was a vigi he would have shot a target on the list but not the first 2 because his shot could be less effective. I think iamp is scum. Just because of this post and the fact he used the hp check. If iamp is not scum there is scum hiding in his House and I do not see how iamp does not see this.

On top of that the whole FTofu lynch felt wrong. Just like FTofu said, there were worse lurkers than him, or atleast equally worse. There was no case on FT except "the wagon of justice is here yabababababa."
Then the vote on yamato from iamp was without case as well. I (Koshi) completely would have also voted yamato after a redclaim obviously but I wouldn't have shot down Oats trying to talk about it. Or at least give some sort of argument to Oats why Yamato is scum except for the redcheck.
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yamato77- Thought he was town because of the fight early on but has been entirely apathetic in the game and is not intrested in catching scum at all. More intrested in complaining. could be scum

yamato could be scum in iamp his will. While the explanation to why he is scum also has a townread in it.
In iamp his last will Vivax is his strongest scumread. While Vivax has been iamps strongest scumread this entire game, iamp has decided during the lynch only Vivax should be spared and FT should be lynched. The scumreason for this is if you get a town Vivax lynched you look extremely scummy, while discrediting Vivax the entire game till somebody else lynches him is way better.
Also, I am a townread from iamp. That's all friendly and shit but why do I get a feeling I am getting set up for gettting lynched when it is lylo/mylo. Just like last game...

PS: the friendly and shit is a *wink* at Oats who I now consider town if yamato flips scum. If Yamato flips towns this was all for nothing and Oats can be lynched.

He makes a conspiracy theory that is so stupid everyone thinks he is clueless town and genuinely believes in that. He sticks with it until iamp dies but the townread stays after that.

This is EXACTLY what Koshi is doing this game. Except that he has no case, BECAUSE HE CAN'T MAKE A FUCKING CASE!

:D

Nha.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 12:13 GMT
#4203
Then make a case on someone else ffs. Even if i was scum i am not the only scum in the game. Right now you are hiding under "rayn is scum but i can't make a case". At best this is fucing awful townplay.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 12:15 GMT
#4204
And if you don't believe that i play differently in large games go read Aperture (which you played in -- and you should already know you are wrong) and TL mafia LXI. Then come back and tell what's different.

You can't just say "no". Or, you can, but if you do you are either playing terribad or scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 12:25 GMT
#4205
And for Koshi, Pandain and FirmTofu:
On August 31 2013 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Clarity who should i vote for? I have missed like everything because i went to smoke a cig yesterday and left my keys in and couldn't get back until an hour ago. :/

On July 02 2013 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah, i'm ready to sheep marv.

"rayn never sheeps". That point is debunked by two different games.
Go find something else if you think i am scum. I would prefer if you tried to find scum instead if you are town. If you are scum, i have no problem with you attacking me because all you are doing is making false accusations. I'll get you lynched.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 12:28 GMT
#4206
Aperture was indeed a strange game for you rayn. But you were consistent strange in that game. Not so much this game. Anyway it's cool. I might not get shot if you decide to fight back.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 12:35 GMT
#4207
On September 26 2013 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Aperture was indeed a strange game for you rayn. But you were consistent strange in that game. Not so much this game. Anyway it's cool. I might not get shot if you decide to fight back.

wtf is this? Are you tunneling me because you don't wanna get shot? Is that what you are saying?
weak man.. really weak.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 26 2013 12:36 GMT
#4208
No, he's saying he's convinced he's on the right track so obviously mafia will want to kill him, but if you accuse him back for being shit then maybe he looks suspicious and maybe mafia keeps him alive for that reason.

I think.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 12:39 GMT
#4209
Stupid plans make for stupid lynches. We don't need a third one of those.

Really.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 12:43 GMT
#4210
On September 26 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Aperture was indeed a strange game for you rayn. But you were consistent strange in that game. Not so much this game. Anyway it's cool. I might not get shot if you decide to fight back.

wtf is this? Are you tunneling me because you don't wanna get shot? Is that what you are saying?
weak man.. really weak.

No. That's not it.

Anyway, the case on you is more like I count everything you post and divide it with the rayn scumhunting drived posts. The number I get then is higher than in other games of you. Aperture not included. But there you had that pokemon role, dnu if it has something to do with it but w.e. Fact is Aperture was an anomaly.

So dnu how you put that in a case. It's a total package.

So I am just yelling you are scum till others see it.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 26 2013 12:46 GMT
#4211
On September 26 2013 21:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Aperture was indeed a strange game for you rayn. But you were consistent strange in that game. Not so much this game. Anyway it's cool. I might not get shot if you decide to fight back.

wtf is this? Are you tunneling me because you don't wanna get shot? Is that what you are saying?
weak man.. really weak.

No. That's not it.

Anyway, the case on you is more like I count everything you post and divide it with the rayn scumhunting drived posts. The number I get then is higher than in other games of you. Aperture not included. But there you had that pokemon role, dnu if it has something to do with it but w.e. Fact is Aperture was an anomaly.

So dnu how you put that in a case. It's a total package.

So I am just yelling you are scum till others see it.


Here's a clue. Yelling the same thing over and over doesn't make it more convincing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 12:48 GMT
#4212
Well keep doing that. I will keep proving you wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 12:50 GMT
#4213
Mr.CheeseCake, what do you think of Koshi?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 12:53 GMT
#4214
Okay Cheesydude has some pretty bad posts that make no sense. Could lynch.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 13:04 GMT
#4215
Also, my game is not bad at all.
Was on the 2 targets that weren't lynched and weren't blue.
Told you guys to lynch VA and not shoot him.
Totes right to doc yamato/BH. Poor WoS. I read his filter already a bit. Need to read more. Didn't find something like his awesome Grack read in Golden Sun. But didn't read the last pages yet. Who knows I might find a gem.

Anyway. I just keep being awesome. If I start making cases I would be too awesome to contain.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 13:11 GMT
#4216
Yeah no. There is nothing in WoS filter that I like. Dislike his reads even. Too bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 13:12 GMT
#4217
Too bad* that I don't like his reads I mean obviously.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 13:13 GMT
#4218
On September 26 2013 22:04 Koshi wrote:
Also, my game is not bad at all.
Was on the 2 targets that weren't lynched and weren't blue.
Told you guys to lynch VA and not shoot him.
Totes right to doc yamato/BH. Poor WoS. I read his filter already a bit. Need to read more. Didn't find something like his awesome Grack read in Golden Sun. But didn't read the last pages yet. Who knows I might find a gem.

Anyway. I just keep being awesome. If I start making cases I would be too awesome to contain.

Yeah you should start making cases.
I still dislike your D1 vote and want you to explain it. You voted for a guy you didn't even think is mafia. How was that good?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 13:14 GMT
#4219
And what is this:
Was on the 2 targets that weren't lynched and weren't blue.

That's an odd thing to say. Why are you proud of being on a target that was not lynched?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 13:22 GMT
#4220
On September 26 2013 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And what is this:
Show nested quote +
Was on the 2 targets that weren't lynched and weren't blue.

That's an odd thing to say. Why are you proud of being on a target that was not lynched?

Proud on being not on a target that was blue.
It's sad that I am not on the target that get lynched, but I was on the second wagon twice. I can't vote for all the other kids. And if people are not voting on a wagon because I am on that wagon, rofl.
I had a good night of sleep.
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