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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 10:13 GMT
#4161
I fear he's not one of us.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 10:17 GMT
#4162
if anyone wants to explain if what sentinel did is scummy or not, go for it, since marv's not gonna bother, and I'm just confused.
night
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 10:30 GMT
#4163
On September 26 2013 19:17 Umasi wrote:
if anyone wants to explain if what sentinel did is scummy or not, go for it, since marv's not gonna bother, and I'm just confused.
night


I think marv laid it out well but here:

I said you looked better because you were actively discussing. This was your first post after I posted my case. Before it, what I say is true. After that, you switch back to your old passive style where you contribute next to nothing and continue to do nothing. Please don't use my hasty analysis to justify your actions after it.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 26 2013 10:45 GMT
#4164
Umasi was much more aggressive and confident in his last scumgame :x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 11:12 GMT
#4165
I don't think Umasi is scum. This looks much more like his play in Golden Sun than in his scumgame.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 11:19 GMT
#4166
On September 26 2013 12:26 Pandain wrote:
raynpelikoneet
Scum

I've posted before while he looks scum. Weak analysis of me, no real focusing of people, just agreement. Contrasts with his town play in Golden Sun mafia. Notice only person he proactively pushed is Koshi, who he stopped pushing eventually anyway.

Despite vote being so close, left two hours before, doesn't make sense for super-active-mafia loving Rayn.
Posts like this are bad.
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv should i vote for ceph?


Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Koshi has to be town.


Why

Not just bad play, scum play

You too. If you can't understand the differences in my play when i am playing a big game or a mini game then there is nothing i can do but to say you are wrong. Read my filter in Aperture and if you still think that there is something to discuss then come back.

You are recycling arguments from Koshi & FirmTofu and they are wrong.

I am sorry i needed to go to bed when i posted my last time. I thought Cephiro was the best lynch and i wanted marv's opinion because he was pushing the case. In case he would have pushed another case with yamato i wouldn't want to waste my vote as i was not able to be here at the deadline. Why the fuck me agreeingwith my townreads make me scum? Should i have voted for someone like you? I thought you were the best lynch yesterday.
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 11:19 GMT
#4167
I want to sleep. This is as complete as it gets for today.

Legend:
Name: Pre-VCA impressions:
Notes: (post-VCA re-reads)
+ Show Spoiler [big] +

Darthpunk / SNB slot - town
Notes:
dp thinks geript is scum for early garbage. rayn disagrees with dp's assessment that geripts argument changed.
dp says wos won't die night 1 this game. what assumptions about the gamestate does he make? town reads for the percieved strong players? does the fact that no strong players were shot successfully mean that the scum team is hiding among them or did the mafia team just want to ensure shots went through?
this slot definitely town based on dp alone.


Rayn - Nostradamus, also town:
On September 22 2013 09:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Something is not right in this game. My strongest town read is ObviousOne.

notes:
koshi read is unsure, reflects more on koshi? need to compare with reverse read
interesting defense of VA, feels good
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19808565 - super townie feels here
Strange miscommunication with Koshi RE: Vayne vote, didn't understand it was pressure?
I feel like I should be on the scum side of the spectrum from feels.


Yamato - town
notes:
saved by lynched medic, god help us if there isn't another one


Kush - I have him as town, info's already in my filter for that. You can disagree if you want.
notes:
not calling enough people scum to be scum.
vote history is useless
have to go by filter alone i guess?
LOL:
On September 22 2013 02:05 kushm4sta wrote:
are you serious right now stutters....
is this a plynch?
a plynch from someone who gets modkilled every game for inactivity?

On September 25 2013 08:12 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck i stopped reading after the underline lol

can't lynch this guy, too funny.


Koshi - whole thought process seems to be in the thread, probably town.
notes:
soooooo many oneliners
soooooo many votes
On September 22 2013 03:23 Koshi wrote:
Yamato totes town. Docs should note down his name on a piece of paper and glue it above their bed.

trending towards scum read on rayn by the end of d1
On September 23 2013 22:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 11:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 23 2013 11:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Cephiro votes Lonemeow wtf

Why are there so many people on him as throwaways?


I think that in itself might give some discussion to LM's alignment.

Please tell me why exactly you wrote this sentence.

Anyone? Anyone see how this might be bad news for Koshi? Maybe? I think it's the worst thing in his filter so if it's nothing then he's probably town.
The rayn<->koshi dynamic is fucking weird. That's a super long bus if they're both scum, rayn shouted much of d1 away at koshi.
Weak attempt at diverting the LM lynch, ends day with vote on Cephiro.


FirmTofu - a re-read of his filter yesterday made me think town. Response to my idea to meta seemed townie, marv confirmed to be genuine. Probably town. Linked to Cephiro if Cephiro is scum, take a look for something like that.
Notes:
Sentinel case is pretty good
Response to concept of reading his meta pretty good.
Going to say town more than scum.


Pandain - weird suspicions to start, on CC and OO. Quasi-defense of geript. Attack on sentinel. interesting thoughts on Stutters.
On September 26 2013 04:59 Pandain wrote:
I don't think I'm actually going to respond to that Sentinel post because it's way too dumb.

Town
Notes:
Just fucking 100% town


Cephiro - scum. He's the lynch tomorrow. Do it. If he's not shot he needs to be lynched.
Notes:
none required


Mr. Cheesecake - seems intent on keeping me on my toes for his alignment. It's weird. Null then, bbcakes.
Notes:
Deserves special special attention.
Vote analysis tells me he's tied for worst player in the thread. Intentional or not?
Pandain vote is pretty much OMGUS, 180s based on Sentinel pressure from Pandain.
If he's mafia then his bussing is starting late (think Decon) and his team is probably partly inactive.
After LM lynch:
On September 26 2013 11:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm done.

Can't stop thinking this in my head as "my work here is done /flex"


Deconduo slot - lynch this tomorrow, too.
Notes:
he's scum
On September 26 2013 09:50 iamperfection wrote:
decondu is a better choice he dosn't even know why he is voting for his scum read. Looks like he picked a top candidate tried to come up with some justification and failed.



Coag - town duh
Notes:
Had a gun


Stutters - lynch this as well.
Notes:
On September 26 2013 10:11 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys I've lost all desire to play with this cold. I'm getting over it now so I'll be reading up tomorrow and getting back into it. Lone meow hasn't changed anything from when I said he should be lynched so he's still my vote.

No need to play when the town is capable of pulling itself off course.
2 votes, 2 lonemeows


iamperfection - ???
Notes:
summary post on entry good, aligns with brain for the most part
lol @ LM lynch =[
Nullo.


Malongo slot - hopefully dies tonight
Notes:
error, player not found


Sentinel - Lynch this as well.
On September 23 2013 10:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm reading Ray's filter from newbie, he seems a lot more restricted here than there which is weird. Unless coaches were really on meth (holy shit I was coaching? nobody sent me any questions, I forgot all about it), I can't really say why he would regress in his ability to post substance.

Better than yamato I guess.

##Vote: Chairman Ray

Notes:
Temporary vote on stutters who i have as mafia, votes for marv's meta prod, unvotes and hits umasi next.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19811401 reading this post again makes me want to forget I ever unvoted him. THIRD SCUM READ because other two are boring?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19812073 - this is in response to my question but doesn't answer it specifically. "yamato has more to show" wat? pressure the guy who is already talking?
Backs down to yamato when yamato threatens the wrath of Yamato Cannon
Look for references to Cephiro in his filter, suspicion but never pushed with any conviction.
I just wanna lynch it.
Also some kind of self-consciousness going on with keeping us up to date with his IRL situation.


VE - firmly uncomfortably null. You pick. (Gut was town, must be scum.)
Notes:
Every vote of his is subjectively or objectively shitty except for geript and cephiro and neither of those is where his vote landed at the end of either day.
His VCA looked VERY similar to this (my method is secret and patented btw) in Carnival and was how I finally caught him.
20: VisceraEyes -6 darthpunk yamato visceraeyes firmtofu mattchew lonemeow cephiro lonemeow geript lonemeow


Geript - an angry null. Was all in on a town read for Mocsta.
On September 23 2013 20:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 20:02 FirmTofu wrote:
On September 23 2013 20:00 geript wrote:
Ok. See you hon keys after the test.

Tofu. I want an explanation of how you gave me a townread but completely missed all my vig claims.

I skipped the majority of your posts because I assumed you were having a shitfest with someone or the other and I wanted to finish catching up as fast as possible. It's a harsh reality, I know.


So you just chose to give me a townread after skipping most of my posts? Where's the sense in that?

Okay, maybe town. Maybe.
Notes:
Dislike him voting for Marv and peacing out for D2 lynch.
Hiding in plain sight comes to mind. Just abrasive enough to have your attention, just MIA enough to be forgotten. Call me biased, but more scummy than null for me.


Risen - I like him for some reason. Filter is short and sweet and he agrees with me on Sent at the time
Notes:
Also probably not scum, unless he's reveling in the fact that town is doing poorly in the thread which is in bad taste and probably not something scum would do.
BOD town


Marv - hoping town, big filter, many word.
Notes:
Ended up tied for "best" in my VCA (with DP/SNB)
GREEEEEEEN


Zaragon - hrm. Like his point about the chairman ray voters but that could be meaningless if it was town/town wagons. Votes everywhere for D1. I'll see what VCA says about this situation. Tentative town.
Notes:
See Mocsta Stream of consciousness.
Like him for town right now.


Mattchew - worked under the pressure, still feel okay about my town read on him.
Notes:
Yamato vote wtf.
not a fan of this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19805556
buddy yamato after voting him the day before: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19837863
ignoring the pre-game is pretty much modus operandi: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19841268 BONUS: making excuses for lack of participation pre-game sucks period, he's got a hard-on for painting marv as scum i think
something that could be hit or miss but damn, post-flip justification just makes me squirm about him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=205#4095
Downgrading to scummy but not the scummiest.


Umasi - something about voting lonemeow in the chaos, was on sentinel before that. hrm. Null leaning scum.
Notes:
Avoids the Cray train by voting for Sentinel
Self-conscious posting?: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19810587
MIA N1 for the most part.
Landed in the middle of my sorted VCA thing. Not a high priority. Could even be wrong on this one.
Nullo for now, then.


JAT - likely town
Notes:
Like: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19812866
Went all proactive after I took his license. Likey.


Mocsta - im waffles to his maple syrup. I don't know what Moc-logic is. I don't think I want to know. Nullllllllll
Notes:
Just too fucking crazy. Town or bust. Plus I don't want to read his madness again right now rofl.

+ Show Spoiler [tldr] +

red:
cephiro
deconduo
stutters
mr. cc
sentinel
ve

reddish-null:
mattchew
geript
rayn
koshi
umasi

+ Show Spoiler [graded scale] +

20: VisceraEyes -6
22: geript -6
13: Mr. Cheesecake -5
6: kushm4sta -2
12: Cephiro -2
16: Stutters695 -2
27: Mattchew -2
7: Koshi -1
15: Coagulation -1
17: Onegu iamperfection -1
19: [UoN]Sentinel -1
26: Zaragon -1
28: Umasi -1
23: Risen -1
5: yamato77 0
11: Pandain 0
30: Mocsta 0
10: FirmTofu 1
2: raynpelikoneet 1
8: ObviousOne 1
14: Xzavier Decondou 1
29: justanothertownie 1
1: DarthPunk strongandbig 2
25: marvellosity 2
18: Zenatsu Malongo <nonfactor>

open spoilers at your own risk
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 11:21 GMT
#4168
EBWOP: Thought Cephiro was the best lynch from Ceph/LM/FT who were the realistic candidates at that time.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 26 2013 11:26 GMT
#4169
2 points? I don't know what that means! But it's more than everyone else.

Eat that, scum.

:x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 11:26 GMT
#4170
On September 26 2013 20:26 marvellosity wrote:
2 points? I don't know what that means! But it's more than everyone else.

Eat that, scum.

:x

negative is bad, it's like football, not golf
they are OObjectivepoints
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 26 2013 11:27 GMT
#4171
Yeah I gathered as much, don't worry

Any list where i come out at/near the top is obviously a good one.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 11:29 GMT
#4172
I make a list too:
marv
everyone else
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 26 2013 11:30 GMT
#4173
good list.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 11:30 GMT
#4174
On September 26 2013 20:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I make a list too:
marv
everyone else

APPEAL TO EGO
CLEARLY SCUM

Do you agree with my top 6 choices for scum or have thoughts on them or would you like to join them?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 26 2013 11:30 GMT
#4175
By the way, OO - Pandain is capable of lots of trolly, fun, lighthearted comments as mafia. So meh. he could still well be mafia in my eyes.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 26 2013 11:31 GMT
#4176
On September 26 2013 20:30 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 20:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I make a list too:
marv
everyone else

APPEAL TO EGO
CLEARLY SCUM

Do you agree with my top 6 choices for scum or have thoughts on them or would you like to join them?

I would like to join them.
No but seriously, lemme take a look at it.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 11:31 GMT
#4177
If anybody is interested. scumteam active posters are
Rayn, Cheesecake, Mocsta

Peasants are between:
Malongo, JAT, FT, Risen, Umasi, Sentinel, Cephiro, Stutters, geript, VE and then some others I forgot.


So, stop going for crapshoots and lynch the first 3. Thank you. Peasants will become obvious after we lynched the certain scums.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 26 2013 11:34 GMT
#4178
My lynch wasn't a crapshoot. My lynch was on mafia.

marv-guaranteed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 26 2013 11:34 GMT
#4179
On September 26 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, OO - Pandain is capable of lots of trolly, fun, lighthearted comments as mafia. So meh. he could still well be mafia in my eyes.

Noted and quoted
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 11:34 GMT
#4180
Do you see how I was on your wagon? Even though all my scums were bussing poor Cephiro.
I had a good night of sleep.
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