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marvellosity
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Stutters695
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On September 26 2013 20:26 ObviousOne wrote: negative is bad, it's like football, not golf they are OObjectivepoints I Just woke up. So if your points meant anything of value, wouldn't that mean your top scum read would be VE/CC/geript? Giving it points seems kinda like a waste of time | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 26 2013 20:35 marvellosity wrote: Koshi, you think all those 3 are mafia? Or there are mafia between them? or what? Yeah they are all 3 scum. Vigs, shoot Cephiro and rayn. Just shoot both. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Can you talk to me about rayn in a fashion that I'll understand? Do you not buy his "i play differently in large games" thing? You think Mocsta pulled all that shit as mafia? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
geript - I don't think he is scum. Lately he has been trolling as town which is fucking unfortunate because he is really good as town when he wants to be. Useless but i'd say town. Mr. Cheesecake - I have no idea. On D1 i thought he was town, but i am not so sure any more. Didn't do anything i remember on D2. Null. kushm4sta - the fact that he has made some analysis and opened some filters and looked into people's past games makes him town. kush does not do that as scum. Cephiro - Absolutely scum. Lynch with fire. Stutters695 - I have seen 2 scumgames with Stutters. One was Basters where he buddied me and played really well. Another on was Titanic where everything he did was vote for someone or asked "why am i scum Oats?". Looks like Titanic here. I need to check his towngames because if i remember correctly he's usually pretty useless as town aswell. Leaning scum. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On September 26 2013 20:35 Stutters695 wrote: I Just woke up. So if your points meant anything of value, wouldn't that mean your top scum read would be VE/CC/geript? Giving it points seems kinda like a waste of time As the days pass they increase in significance as the voting thread grows. They're more effective on day 5 than day 2 but an 8 point spread is pretty informative. Also, it caught 2/3 mafia at lylo in Carnival (except Kush went AFK with a vote on town so it never got used, lol, Instant majority is fun) The longer I live the more accurate it's going to get. Think of them as guideposts. Also I think you're scum so why am I even explaining this to you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 26 2013 20:39 marvellosity wrote: Pretty sure they aren't all mafia. Can you talk to me about rayn in a fashion that I'll understand? Do you not buy his "i play differently in large games" thing? You think Mocsta pulled all that shit as mafia? I am interested, do you "buy" it? Have you looked at my play in Aperture where i sheeped Clarity all game because people were either too hard to read or too bad. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 26 2013 20:39 marvellosity wrote: Pretty sure they aren't all mafia. Can you talk to me about rayn in a fashion that I'll understand? Do you not buy his "i play differently in large games" thing? You think Mocsta pulled all that shit as mafia? Mocsta is pulling shit all game. Claiming doc to get LM lynched is in line with the start of his game. Rayn. He doesn't play different in large games. Didn't you see his tunnel on me. That is exactly like in minis. Except it wasn't. CC. Fuck the little fucker if he isn't blue or red. Read his posts. Pure evil. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
If Cephiro is indeed red, he counterclaimed the actual doctor to a) save mafia b) lynch the doctor -.- | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Now, if you are town, look at this from my perspective. Wtf am i supposed to do? Am i supposed to call you town just because? Why? I thought you were scum. Then you upped your play on N1, now you are back to this tunnel shit because of no fucking reason. Are you scum, for real? I could see you doing this as scum. Play purposely like shit just to justify your tunnel on me after that the whole fucking game and you look good for strong townies because you are not afraid to attack me. Stop this fucking bullshit and make a decent case if you think i am scum. Otherwise i will lynch you, because if you do not make a case or stop it you are scum. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
gimme a second. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 26 2013 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi seriously. I am getting very frustrated with you. You even YOURSELF said the case was justified. You were playing very fucking differently than you play as town. And you know it. Now, if you are town, look at this from my perspective. Wtf am i supposed to do? Am i supposed to call you town just because? Why? I thought you were scum. Then you upped your play on N1, now you are back to this tunnel shit because of no fucking reason. Are you scum, for real? I could see you doing this as scum. Play purposely like shit just to justify your tunnel on me after that the whole fucking game and you look good for strong townies because you are not afraid to attack me. Stop this fucking bullshit and make a decent case if you think i am scum. Otherwise i will lynch you, because if you do not make a case or stop it you are scum. I think you are scum. I can't make a case in which suddenly everybody will see you as scum. I can only repeat that you are scum. Would suck if you aren't. I will probably repeat that you are scum for a very long time. Should bother you, but try to not let it bother you too much. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
D1 start. Fucking clueless as mafia. Then he gets accused. Then this happens (from GoT scum QT): + Show Spoiler + raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:20 PM ET (US) You can accuse fellow mafians if you have a "good" reason to. We are good enough to defend ourselves. Just do not make an idiot out of yourself by stupid stuff, that gets you policy lynched. For example, if there is anything that contradicts with your mindset in me, ask me questions. Be aggressive towards me. I do not mind, i can defend myself. You need to interact with your scumbuddies aswell, because we will lose member(s) at some point and you look terrible if you do not talk about your scumbuddies at all. Especially now when you are "under attack", even if you make a case on scum, you have no credit. There is no harm, IF YOUR CASE IS BELIEVEABLE from town pov. It does not have to be right, it has to be so that you look town. If you dunno how to do that, attack suspicious townies instead. :D 126 raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:15 PM ET (US) Do not afk. That´s the worst thing you can do. I´m gonna push a lynch on a lurker if necessay (FT, Risen looks really bad, nachodude, Sharrant, etc.) Just remember this: Keep track of where your town!mind is. What are your "intentions", who do you think is mafia, what has your game plan been, who does oppose your game plan and "what that might mean". You are ok if you follow these things, whether or not you are right. 125 Koshi 08-08-2013 06:08 PM ET (US) How do I enter the thread now? Or do I keep afk? 124 Koshi 08-08-2013 06:07 PM ET (US) Ok, then I hold it back for when people ask me questions. I can trow Clarity under the bus at the same time because he soft defended OAts twice already and FoS me with a silly reason. 123 raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:05 PM ET (US) TLDR; It does not matter who you accuse, but keep your story straight. 122 raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:04 PM ET (US) I dunno. Seems like a forced case to me (going MIA is not a scumtell). Keeping house names secret might be, if you can convince other people that is the right thing to do (revealing them), how did you act on th ebeginning regarding that? Did you immediately reveal house names? If you didn´t, why is Oats scum because of that for you? Having no scumreads and living happily ever after in his house might be scummy, it also might be that he genuinely thought everyone is town. How do you "prove" that? Make a case if you think it´s gonna be good enough, but think about what you say. 121 Koshi 08-08-2013 05:58 PM ET (US) Could I make a case around Oats? Or do people see him as town? He is asleep atm so he can't retaliate for a couple of hours. My case would be around the fact that in the first 6 hours he prevented scumhunting by trying to keep house names a secret, while when I tried to create a better atmosphere to scumhunt he shot me down asking silly questions (page 20 pages long when there were only 6 pages) or him blaming me for having no scumreads while he was only sharing townreads based on "friendly and shit". When SnB came in saying that there were some problems in their House, Oats suddenly went MIA. Except that now he does not need anyone to tell that because i even put that in thread for DP on D1. What does Koshi do? This: + Show Spoiler + On August 12 2013 22:21 Koshi wrote: If I ever host a game it will have a minimum 10 posts a day rule. Or maybe next game I play in I will start a policy that you need to make 10 posts a day otherwise you get lynched. If you are town and you don't post 10 times you just fail at life and at this game. Always the same people talking and I can't read any of them, except give them a town read... EXCEPT I have such a problem with this post. Like which stupid vigi is going to use his shot on a guy that has almost no hp? 6 Lords should have killed gumshoe and if gumshoe was still alive at the end of the day he should have been checked by a Lord on n2. Or even n1 like iamp did but then it is VERY suspicious that after the 1 hp check on gumshoe, gumshoe dies. The chance that scum spent a part or all their KP on is 0%. The only reason scum would target gum is if they knew he was blue or they knew he had 1 hp and gambled blue. So if there was a vigi he would have shot a target on the list but not the first 2 because his shot could be less effective. I think iamp is scum. Just because of this post and the fact he used the hp check. If iamp is not scum there is scum hiding in his House and I do not see how iamp does not see this. On top of that the whole FTofu lynch felt wrong. Just like FTofu said, there were worse lurkers than him, or atleast equally worse. There was no case on FT except "the wagon of justice is here yabababababa." Then the vote on yamato from iamp was without case as well. I (Koshi) completely would have also voted yamato after a redclaim obviously but I wouldn't have shot down Oats trying to talk about it. Or at least give some sort of argument to Oats why Yamato is scum except for the redcheck. yamato could be scum in iamp his will. While the explanation to why he is scum also has a townread in it. In iamp his last will Vivax is his strongest scumread. While Vivax has been iamps strongest scumread this entire game, iamp has decided during the lynch only Vivax should be spared and FT should be lynched. The scumreason for this is if you get a town Vivax lynched you look extremely scummy, while discrediting Vivax the entire game till somebody else lynches him is way better. Also, I am a townread from iamp. That's all friendly and shit but why do I get a feeling I am getting set up for gettting lynched when it is lylo/mylo. Just like last game... PS: the friendly and shit is a *wink* at Oats who I now consider town if yamato flips scum. If Yamato flips towns this was all for nothing and Oats can be lynched. He makes a conspiracy theory that is so stupid everyone thinks he is clueless town and genuinely believes in that. He sticks with it until iamp dies but the townread stays after that. This is EXACTLY what Koshi is doing this game. Except that he has no case, BECAUSE HE CAN'T MAKE A FUCKING CASE! | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
U know. Where I called him scum | ||
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