EPTTL Mafia LXII: TL Noir - Page 138
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Blazinghand
United States25555 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On September 21 2013 13:07 DarthPunk wrote: You won't die night one in this game. *sigh* | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On September 24 2013 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote: This whole thing and you don't even say whether or not you think he's scum. "Not adverse to lynching" could be said about any number of feelings, including "I hate this player", "I would policy-lynch this player", "I'm paying no attention to this player" etc. I'm most interested in who you'd like to lynch because you think they're scum OO. If I want to lynch someone... and town wants to lynch scum... connect the dots. "......." lol | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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ObviousOne
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ObviousOne
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On September 24 2013 15:22 ObviousOne wrote: He's scum for excusing his shit play instead of playing. OKVE?! Am I scum? Because I've been excusing my shit play AND martyring OO. What about BH was he scum? He spent all of N1 excusing his play, but shit he flipped town. So no, not okay. Also like I said before, I found his freaking out at geript or yamato or whoever the fuck to be genuine...do you think scum typically make posts like that? What about FT OO? I'm voting for FT, and have commented on reasons why. Any particular reason you don't like an FT lynch? He was the counter-wagon to the D1 lynch and everything! | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Like...The Cephiro thing is so boring to me. Your post about him was nothing but a huge summary of his play, which even contains consideration for possible townie-mindests. You never draw a conclusion that he's scum, simply state that you're not adverse to lynching him...but by denying these other wagons you're saying you ARE adverse to lynching those players. Why? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On September 24 2013 15:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Am I scum? Because I've been excusing my shit play AND martyring OO. What about BH was he scum? He spent all of N1 excusing his play, but shit he flipped town. So no, not okay. Also like I said before, I found his freaking out at geript or yamato or whoever the fuck to be genuine...do you think scum typically make posts like that? What about FT OO? I'm voting for FT, and have commented on reasons why. Any particular reason you don't like an FT lynch? He was the counter-wagon to the D1 lynch and everything! I just wanna lynch, bro. What if it was a halfhearted bus? What if it's cephiro and ft and LM? As for you I can't say. It took me a VCA to catch you last time. My gut instinct is town and that's always been wrong. Should I call you mafia based on gut? (inverse gut, actually) | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Ugh...whatever vote for who you want to vote for. I'll tell you who the best person to vote for is tomorrow though if it's not FT. Right now I think it's FT. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On September 24 2013 15:35 VisceraEyes wrote: No if you call me mafia at all, call me mafia for a reason. Ugh...whatever vote for who you want to vote for. I'll tell you who the best person to vote for is tomorrow though if it's not FT. Right now I think it's FT. I wish you had said yes that would have been so cool. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On September 22 2013 18:32 FirmTofu wrote: You need to get off your high horse and step back for a minute. I refuse to indulge you and these ad hominem attacks. Maybe my meta argument is bullshit. Maybe I am completely wrong. That doesn't mean you wave your dick around like you rule the thread and every player is a piece of shit compared to you. If you want to discuss why my thoughts are poorly reasoned, I willing to have a go at it. I will not, however, humor you if you continue to waste my time in this manner. I don't recognize this bold part's voice, time to cross-ref some older games. | ||
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ObviousOne
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ObviousOne
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ObviousOne
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Bluelightz Mafia "The Attack" - town Sicilian Style Mafia - town Persona 4 - mafia Titanic Mini - mafia Only major thing I see from speeding through is that he likes to repeat that he is not scum when he is scum. And I do recall he has said that here. Is it a mafia tell for Tofu? Fuck knows. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On September 24 2013 16:22 ObviousOne wrote: Okay that was a pain in the ass to round up but two decent games for each of scum and town. I'll do something with them later. Probably. Bluelightz Mafia "The Attack" - town Sicilian Style Mafia - town Persona 4 - mafia Titanic Mini - mafia Only major thing I see from speeding through is that he likes to repeat that he is not scum when he is scum. And I do recall he has said that here. Is it a mafia tell for Tofu? Fuck knows. Word of warning before you dive those games. My meta changes drastically every single game, regardless of alignment. I deliberately do this so that people can't use meta to figure me out. However, that is not to say I do not have meta tells in my games. In Bluelightz, I would say I played most similarly to how I am playing now. I attacked those I found suspicious but quickly backed off when I found a reason to. In general, my reads were quite volatile. One second, I'd be voting jrkirb or TanGeng, and at other times, I'd vote cDgCorazon. While my posting was calm and deliberate, my reads changed quite a bit throughout the course of the game. I would say this erratic behavior is a mark of my town play. In Sicilian, I engaged in a prolonged shitfest with DrH(we were both town). This game is not a really good game to compare my meta with because it is one where I improve from. I played quite poorly because I did not engage and disengage DrH at the appropriate intervals. In Titanic, I was extremely aggressive as scum. I attacked a ton of people from multiple angles and was fairly honest about most of my reads. I changed my reads almost completely post-flip a couple of times. This caused rayn to tunnel me nearly the entire game. Persona, I was scum. In this game, I tried to emulate my town play from bluelightz. I would try to fake contribution and I avoided playing like I did in Titanic(being aggressive and using ad hominem attacks). As you can see, my mafia play was designed to emulate my town play here and to trick those who used meta to read me. This convinced rayn I was town for the majority of the game. As you can probably see, no two games are alike. I would say my town play has some consistency to it, but my scum play is generally all over the place. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
For example, advertisements are geared towards this philosophy. In a typical 2 hour television broadcast, you may watch the same commercial 5-6 times. The idea behind this is that the brand will stick if you repeatedly see it over and over. Because looking town is beneficial as town and mafia, I do this in nearly all my games. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On September 24 2013 12:52 Pandain wrote: Firm out of curiosity what made you change your read on Zaragon? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Too little confusion post night flips. That becomes apparent with yam medic save. Assuming vig is 1shot..I think it's worthwhile if vig claims. Would be good to confirm whether vig shot vayne or bh. I think it's 95% likely vayne. Plus 1shot is now confirmed town anyways so nothing to lose. I assume its coag after the exchange between him and VA last cycle. | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On September 24 2013 16:56 Pandain wrote: The way he responded to my accusations. Just felt like a townie response to me. I also know that my case wasn't the strongest evidence-wise, so I am willing to consider other options as well. | ||
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