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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 24 2013 21:21 Mocsta wrote: Will provide more when I'm home. Too hard on phone. But in short. His post came about 3 to 4min after night post. Thoughts are too coherent for new Info I think. Consider time to refresh , read post with lots of flavour, and think about outcome, plus type. Pandain admitted to being a slow typed too. I'm saying, his point of view is based on info town did not have. Exacerbated when questioning why yam wasn't shot. For me personally, he wasn't a solid night1 kill. So yeah. Dunno when I will be home. Plus coming from a port tasting night. So to be honest. I'm a touch hammered. On a side note. Vintage port IS incredible. Oh, considering the timeframe Pandain posted in this is a good point. I was curious because when i read the PC post i had same thoughts than he posted. Only wtf moment was BH getting killed. | ||
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Zaragon
Sweden235 Posts
On September 24 2013 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: I wasn't scum in Desert. That's why I compared two games where I knew your alignment and tried to get a better meta read on you. You see, your proportion and timing of opinion/reads an questions in Desert is exactly what I would like to see. Catch 22, you look like you did when I had my first scum read of you, more questions and giving yourself more space to reevaluate based on them before putting yourself out there. You're starting to land somewhere in between--like I said a while back, you started to give a lot more substance. Comparing early game play more carefully, you do look somewhat less scummy to me. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On September 24 2013 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: pc post?Oh, considering the timeframe Pandain posted in this is a good point. I was curious because when i read the PC post i had same thoughts than he posted. Only wtf moment was BH getting killed. Btw can't tell if u agree or disagree | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 24 2013 22:03 Mocsta wrote: pc post? Btw can't tell if u agree or disagree PC post = Day post. I agree with you. | ||
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Zaragon
Sweden235 Posts
On September 24 2013 21:21 Mocsta wrote: Will provide more when I'm home. Too hard on phone. But in short. His post came about 3 to 4min after night post. Thoughts are too coherent for new Info I think. Consider time to refresh , read post with lots of flavour, and think about outcome, plus type. Pandain admitted to being a slow typed too. I'm saying, his point of view is based on info town did not have. Exacerbated when questioning why yam wasn't shot. For me personally, he wasn't a solid night1 kill. So yeah. Dunno when I will be home. Plus coming from a port tasting night. So to be honest. I'm a touch hammered. On a side note. Vintage port IS incredible. At first I was thinking, I liked Pandain's night phase play, and the quick response to the flips could be adrenaline over a clear feeling that the vigi shot was going wrong. But as I'm thinking about these points... I was feeling the same way I thought Pandain was feeling about people aiming the VA shot, and I don't see how he shifted gears that fast as town and made that post | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On September 24 2013 21:22 Mocsta wrote: I really wish Dp stayed. That snb post makes me want to put Dp back to null. It's like he knows there's a town read on his former slot and is abusing it. Uuugggffhhhhhhh Trololol Srs? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
I'm home and here. Im fully caught up on the thread in a "thread sentiment" type of way. But not caught up on all on what it means to me. Direct me. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
Marv y u not ded? Marv what's the context of this post? Why does it make yammo town? Can someone explain for me what the deal was with sentinel at the time? Also Marv why haven't you been making arguments for why anyone is scum? You've been making plenty of arguments about why other people's arguments are bad... Actually, I guess you did give real arguments in one or two posts about why ray was maybe scum but you hedged pretty hard... That seems townie. Is that a town tell for you? I don't think so, because as soon as you figured it out you would do it as scum too... | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On September 17 2013 18:31 Mocsta wrote: /in when is this starting. p.s. I'm going to be lurking this game. so feel free to call me snb Wtf where did this come from Jerk | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On September 17 2013 22:24 Mocsta wrote: lol If im active this game; im prob scum lol.. the appeal of a 30 player game is *LONG* behind me. Voice mafia for the win ! | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On September 24 2013 22:18 Zaragon wrote: Pls help me out here.At first I was thinking, I liked Pandain's night phase play, and the quick response to the flips could be adrenaline over a clear feeling that the vigi shot was going wrong. But as I'm thinking about these points... I was feeling the same way I thought Pandain was feeling about people aiming the VA shot, and I don't see how he shifted gears that fast as town and made that post quick response to the flips could be adrenaline over a clear feeling that the vigi shot was going wrong I'm not even sure what this means or infers... My initial reaction was.. wtf.. why is blazinghand shot? Then Waveofshadow makes a lot of sense (solid town read to a lot of ppl, but minor thread presence, so unlikely to be medic protected) -> Safe. BH shot to me is either (bluesnipe OR safe shot on someone scum respect) Which raises a separate questoin... who would be scared of BH that is in this game? (answer is no one  ) .. so im leaning towards blue snipe attemptPoint being; Pandain is meant to be a slow, methodical poster that has a high content:post ratio.... This juxtaposes against the word "adrenalin".. I dont even know how you could entertain this notion in the first place. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Are you inferring that you have read through the whole game to decipher whether I have been active? Cos if so, I expect immediately a bunch of reads; as opposed to posting pre-game talk. Heres a tip.. the game starts on page 24. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 24 2013 23:13 Mocsta wrote: Rayn, I'm home and here. Im fully caught up on the thread in a "thread sentiment" type of way. But not caught up on all on what it means to me. Direct me. I don't know what you want me to do? I don't understand. I want to hear Sentinel's reads because i think he is scum and i have no idea what he is doing if he's not. I am voting for him. I think your case on Pandain is good and i want to hear more from him. I want to hear more from Mattchew because he has done jack shit this game. I am okay with Zaragon atm (his answers to me). I would love to hear some reads from him that are not "assuming FirmTofu is scum..." because i still think that's bullshit way to present reads, associating one's own reads to an unflipped players alignment. FT could also talk about something that's not Zaragon. There is where i am atm. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On September 24 2013 23:19 strongandbig wrote: Marv y u not ded? Marv what's the context of this post? Why does it make yammo town? Can someone explain for me what the deal was with sentinel at the time? Also Marv why haven't you been making arguments for why anyone is scum? You've been making plenty of arguments about why other people's arguments are bad... Actually, I guess you did give real arguments in one or two posts about why ray was maybe scum but you hedged pretty hard... That seems townie. Is that a town tell for you? I don't think so, because as soon as you figured it out you would do it as scum too... My read on marv is based on the ray outcome. (Granted I actually haven't re-read the exchange yet, so am hapy to be disputed by a fresh perspective). I made a "case" on ray first. Marvs response was to discredit my case as a pittance, and then produce his own case on Ray in addition to providing further analysis. The point is that Marv tried to one-up me; and I treat that as a heuristic for town pride/emotional investment with marv. I will admit freely that prior that occurrence, he was leaning scum for me. [Rayn, you asked why I had a town read on marv before.. the above is why] | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On September 22 2013 22:41 Mocsta wrote: Btw.. this type of post is I believe, why yamato was nailed as scum by Ver in Sicilian. Starts off with.. DP is scum.. yet ends up with a vote on Chairman. Well done Noob-mato77 Mocsta do you still think Yamato is scum? What changed your mind? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 24 2013 23:24 Mocsta wrote: Are you inferring that you have read through the whole game to decipher whether I have been active? Cos if so, I expect immediately a bunch of reads; as opposed to posting pre-game talk. Heres a tip.. the game starts on page 24. A look at the number of pages in your filters suffices. You have been active and in the pregame you did say that was likely to be a mafia tell. rayn is right as well, your "direct me" is exceedingly weird :/ @s&b - I had had the same thought as yamato but decided not to post it, so when he did it made me feel fuzzy. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 24 2013 23:30 Mocsta wrote: My read on marv is based on the ray outcome. (Granted I actually haven't re-read the exchange yet, so am hapy to be disputed by a fresh perspective). I made a "case" on ray first. Marvs response was to discredit my case as a pittance, and then produce his own case on Ray in addition to providing further analysis. The point is that Marv tried to one-up me; and I treat that as a heuristic for town pride/emotional investment with marv. I will admit freely that prior that occurrence, he was leaning scum for me. [Rayn, you asked why I had a town read on marv before.. the above is why] I wasn't trying to one-up you, I just didn't found what you wrote particularly convincing, but it did make me take a 2nd look. Evidently, what I wrote about him wasn't particularly great either. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On September 24 2013 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know what you want me to do? I don't understand. I want to hear Sentinel's reads because i think he is scum and i have no idea what he is doing if he's not. I am voting for him. I think your case on Pandain is good and i want to hear more from him. I want to hear more from Mattchew because he has done jack shit this game. I am okay with Zaragon atm (his answers to me). I would love to hear some reads from him that are not "assuming FirmTofu is scum..." because i still think that's bullshit way to present reads, associating one's own reads to an unflipped players alignment. FT could also talk about something that's not Zaragon. There is where i am atm. OK, i was trying to do what Koshi said we were doing before (but clearly not) buddying.. i.e. i want you to be my new DP. lets work together. In short, I was saying, is there someone you want me to look into and provide thoughts. P.S. my issue with sentinel as scum boils now to my last night post.. "too scummy to be scum".. do you think a guy that has been called scum by several people would CONTINUE to do the same shit that landed him on heat in the first place - if scum? I'm pretty sure, a scummer would have changed up the gameplay by now (this all considers that sentinel had enough pressure to warrant being threatended... which I am actaully not sure is the case??) | ||
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Zaragon
Sweden235 Posts
On September 24 2013 23:23 Mocsta wrote: Pls help me out here. quick response to the flips could be adrenaline over a clear feeling that the vigi shot was going wrong I'm not even sure what this means or infers... My initial reaction was.. wtf.. why is blazinghand shot? Then Waveofshadow makes a lot of sense (solid town read to a lot of ppl, but minor thread presence, so unlikely to be medic protected) -> Safe. BH shot to me is either (bluesnipe OR safe shot on someone scum respect) Which raises a separate questoin... who would be scared of BH that is in this game? (answer is no one ) .. so im leaning towards blue snipe attemptPoint being; Pandain is meant to be a slow, methodical poster that has a high content:post ratio.... This juxtaposes against the word "adrenalin".. I dont even know how you could entertain this notion in the first place. I'm a slow methodical poster; I was full of adrenaline at that point. I could have posted something much faster than normal if something had made sense to me. But I was also confused by the kills and still stuck on why people switched to VA for vigi target, thus why I said I found it strange how he could shift gears that fast if he is town. We are agreeing, I was just supplying a personality read. | ||
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