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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 24 2013 15:11 GMT
#2821
I'm awake. Going to do some serious analysis today since I've gone from bedridden to just a moderate fever. I'll be fielding questions if anyone has any while I work
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 24 2013 15:12 GMT
#2822
Marv my post was also excellent
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2013 15:12 GMT
#2823
On September 25 2013 00:11 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm awake. Going to do some serious analysis today since I've gone from bedridden to just a moderate fever. I'll be fielding questions if anyone has any while I work


Yeah. Why did you go to bed at the end of Day 1 with a total peace-out type vote and post, 3 hours after your previous post in the thread, addressing absolutely nothing that occurred?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2013 15:12 GMT
#2824
On September 25 2013 00:12 ObviousOne wrote:
Marv my post was also excellent


If you replace 'ego' with 'penis', perhaps.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 24 2013 15:13 GMT
#2825
So yamato is town, thats no fun
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 24 2013 15:15 GMT
#2826
On September 25 2013 00:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 00:12 ObviousOne wrote:
Marv my post was also excellent


If you replace 'ego' with 'penis', perhaps.

You know how to cheer a bloke up a bit. Thanks, mate. =]
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 24 2013 15:15 GMT
#2827
On September 25 2013 00:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 00:12 ObviousOne wrote:
Marv my post was also excellent


If you replace 'ego' with 'penis', perhaps.

I'd bet you say "both 10". Then the question arises. Which one are you lying about?
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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 24 2013 15:15 GMT
#2828
Once FT answers my question I will tell you if he's mafia or not with 100% accuracy.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2013 15:16 GMT
#2829
Am I missing a case on Sent somewhere? FT seems like the obvious lynch to me and I don't get the resistance I'm getting.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 24 2013 15:17 GMT
#2830
On September 25 2013 00:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Am I missing a case on Sent somewhere? FT seems like the obvious lynch to me and I don't get the resistance I'm getting.

Sentinel is making very little sense, and while he has posted a good amount, i don't feel like he is trying to find scum.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 24 2013 15:18 GMT
#2831
Rayn i saw your post btw ill respond to it later, im currently reading on my phone
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 24 2013 15:22 GMT
#2832
On September 25 2013 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta, i would really like you to explain this:

At the end of D1 you voted for FirmTofu.
On N1 i see no posts from you that make me think your scumread on him has weakened.
Then, at the end of N1 you say this:
Show nested quote +
(2) FirmTofu
In my opinion he is either a scum agent sent to fuck with the thread (a la Blazinghand role) OR retarded town.
Im inclined to think retarded town. Im not heavily experienced with firmtofu, but I know based on post-game discussions, that he believes he makes beneficial pro-town decisions -> even when the whole thread is against him. This kinda feels like that. I will admit his posting gives me a zen-like calmness too. Its slow and methodical, but in a good way. I kept the read at null cos the above is just all gut. I dont really have a hard stance on him based on filter specifics. I dont think he is a good vig shot as the chances of flipping town are higher than some other choices in my opinion.


Now you are bringing up vote analysis from D1 and want marv to discuss them, yet you are unwilling to to discuss FT "because he is not most likely to flip mafia" according to you.


What has changed? What in FT's posting has ACTUALLY made you think he is town? And why do you want to discuss things straightly related to his alignment but you are unwilling to discuss FT himself?

I dont get the problem, we are talking about two isolated events.

(1) = FT filter
(2) = Read outcomes from a FT flip


What I wrote end of Night1 *is* my take on FT. Im not going to stop anyone else talking about him, because, im not a god of mafia and clearly can be wrong. Im saying, hes not my focus at all.. a fuck face like that. i coul read his filter 10 times and still not be certain if i want to lynch him.


So to answer your questions
(1) Indicators for town?
- Zen-like feeling in posts. Even though its obviously refined/constructed.. its a different type.

- The way he kept stopping himself from reading the thread, by engaging in live convo BUT still ensured he read the thread.
*This mimics my play replacing into "the game". I personally think scum replace into the game by either, waiting to read the whole thread and then making an impact.. or forgoing reading the thread all together and just start from the live point (a la DP in personality 2) Sorry.. personal heuristic, whether right or wrong.

- Has the guy actually pushed a scum agenda? Yes he is posting as if hes in the town leadership circle (e.g. submitting his own vig list).. but, hes not getting traction, and does it actually read as deceitful?

(2)Why do I want to discuss things related to his alignment but not willing to discuss him.
I believe this is answered by the above.

The q to marv, was curiosity about the information we could gain. I was trying to ascertain whether the best course of action was for an information lynch; or scum lynch. (Obviously bonus points if info lynch gives a scum lynch).
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 24 2013 15:23 GMT
#2833
On September 25 2013 00:11 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm awake. Going to do some serious analysis today since I've gone from bedridden to just a moderate fever. I'll be fielding questions if anyone has any while I work

Are you caught up with the thread? If you are not, when you are, do this.

Pick three most important things you find worth discussing at the moment. Make analysis of them and give your conclusions about them.
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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 24 2013 15:24 GMT
#2834
On September 25 2013 00:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 00:11 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm awake. Going to do some serious analysis today since I've gone from bedridden to just a moderate fever. I'll be fielding questions if anyone has any while I work


Yeah. Why did you go to bed at the end of Day 1 with a total peace-out type vote and post, 3 hours after your previous post in the thread, addressing absolutely nothing that occurred?


I had already addressed who I wanted to see lynched, had to go to bed and since kush wasn't an option so I voted who was the next best option in my opinion.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2013 15:24 GMT
#2835
you know, rayn, it's much more useful if you don't set "homework" and see if people do useful shit without being prompted.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2013 15:27 GMT
#2836
On September 25 2013 00:24 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 00:12 marvellosity wrote:
On September 25 2013 00:11 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm awake. Going to do some serious analysis today since I've gone from bedridden to just a moderate fever. I'll be fielding questions if anyone has any while I work


Yeah. Why did you go to bed at the end of Day 1 with a total peace-out type vote and post, 3 hours after your previous post in the thread, addressing absolutely nothing that occurred?


I had already addressed who I wanted to see lynched, had to go to bed and since kush wasn't an option so I voted who was the next best option in my opinion.


You just, ya know, didn't give a fuck at all to comment on either of the hot candidates at the time?

Didn't really see the need of getting involved with finding a decent lynch, no?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2013 15:28 GMT
#2837
I red Sent and I'm like totes okay with him being the major counterwagon to FT. Between the two I prefer FT presently.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 24 2013 15:28 GMT
#2838
like, you came back to the thread 3 hours after your previous post, and you really felt no compulsion to comment on anything, but to just drop a vote and leave?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 24 2013 15:30 GMT
#2839
On September 25 2013 00:22 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta, i would really like you to explain this:

At the end of D1 you voted for FirmTofu.
On N1 i see no posts from you that make me think your scumread on him has weakened.
Then, at the end of N1 you say this:
(2) FirmTofu
In my opinion he is either a scum agent sent to fuck with the thread (a la Blazinghand role) OR retarded town.
Im inclined to think retarded town. Im not heavily experienced with firmtofu, but I know based on post-game discussions, that he believes he makes beneficial pro-town decisions -> even when the whole thread is against him. This kinda feels like that. I will admit his posting gives me a zen-like calmness too. Its slow and methodical, but in a good way. I kept the read at null cos the above is just all gut. I dont really have a hard stance on him based on filter specifics. I dont think he is a good vig shot as the chances of flipping town are higher than some other choices in my opinion.


Now you are bringing up vote analysis from D1 and want marv to discuss them, yet you are unwilling to to discuss FT "because he is not most likely to flip mafia" according to you.


What has changed? What in FT's posting has ACTUALLY made you think he is town? And why do you want to discuss things straightly related to his alignment but you are unwilling to discuss FT himself?

I dont get the problem, we are talking about two isolated events.

(1) = FT filter
(2) = Read outcomes from a FT flip


What I wrote end of Night1 *is* my take on FT. Im not going to stop anyone else talking about him, because, im not a god of mafia and clearly can be wrong. Im saying, hes not my focus at all.. a fuck face like that. i coul read his filter 10 times and still not be certain if i want to lynch him.


So to answer your questions
(1) Indicators for town?
- Zen-like feeling in posts. Even though its obviously refined/constructed.. its a different type.

- The way he kept stopping himself from reading the thread, by engaging in live convo BUT still ensured he read the thread.
*This mimics my play replacing into "the game". I personally think scum replace into the game by either, waiting to read the whole thread and then making an impact.. or forgoing reading the thread all together and just start from the live point (a la DP in personality 2) Sorry.. personal heuristic, whether right or wrong.

- Has the guy actually pushed a scum agenda? Yes he is posting as if hes in the town leadership circle (e.g. submitting his own vig list).. but, hes not getting traction, and does it actually read as deceitful?

(2)Why do I want to discuss things related to his alignment but not willing to discuss him.
I believe this is answered by the above.

The q to marv, was curiosity about the information we could gain. I was trying to ascertain whether the best course of action was for an information lynch; or scum lynch. (Obviously bonus points if info lynch gives a scum lynch).

(1) My problem is your explanation does not really make sense to me because your interactions towards FT on N1 do not support what you are saying about the "zen-posting". I don't see you thinking "okay, fuck, this guy could be town aswell" from your posts towards FT on N1. Also why do you bring up replacing, FT has been in the game for the whole time, he has not replaced in.

(2) So what's the point of discussing things related to his alignment if you don't know his alignment and are not willing to find it out atm?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 24 2013 15:31 GMT
#2840
On September 25 2013 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
you know, rayn, it's much more useful if you don't set "homework" and see if people do useful shit without being prompted.

The problem is a majority of players don't do it, even if they are town, and then they get lynched.
I would rather get every piece of information out of everyone regardless of their alignment. It also helps out determining their alignment.
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