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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 24 2013 02:57 GMT
#2721
Onegu has been replaced by iamperfection
DarthPunk has been replaced by strongandbig
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
September 24 2013 03:19 GMT
#2722
im staying home sick tomorrow ill read it all and save you all
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 24 2013 03:20 GMT
#2723
FT/Cephiro the lynch targets here. I'll vote Cephiro. Don't trust the #stagedhype surrounding FT lynch.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 24 2013 03:21 GMT
#2724
EBWOP: Nope, never mind. No way a town FT comes out with a vote on VE.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 24 2013 03:22 GMT
#2725
I'm confirmed town, so what I say actually goes today.

We lynch Sentinel.
Writer@WriterYamato
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 24 2013 03:25 GMT
#2726
On September 24 2013 12:22 yamato77 wrote:
I'm confirmed town, so what I say actually goes today.

We lynch Sentinel.


No you aren't. Unless a doctor claims the save you could easily just be saying you got protected and you're scum. Doctor don't claim, though... that would be stupid.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 24 2013 03:26 GMT
#2727
EBWOP: Even then it could be a doctor/igotprotected fakeclaim.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 24 2013 03:30 GMT
#2728
Ugh why sent over FT?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 24 2013 03:39 GMT
#2729
[UoN]Sentinel:
On September 22 2013 05:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Back from work as promised.

Things I know:

People who have not contributed - some might be lurking, others may have forgotten they signed up for this game:
gumshoe
Chairman Ray
Cephiro
Xzavier
Onegu
Zenatsu
Risen
iamp said he wanted to be replacement, what happened to that?

Meapak_Ziphh - should really consider linking the filters in the list of signups. It's hard to bring up a bunch of filters when you have to manually type in the URL.

Stutters695 - Stutters, like myself, doesn't like kush in this game. I'm actually curious as to why kush suddenly engages actively in the thread, and I agree with the fact that he's being thread police instead of being productive in the townfinding effort. What I don't like is how hard Stutters is tunneling kush. Every post in his filter at the time of this post is directed at lynching kush, or begging others to join the bandwagon, and nothing else. I would like to see what you think of other players Stutters.

Coagulation - still completely fucking useless. Other than his "summary of today", which doesn't contribute anything to scumhunting and doesn't even summarize much, he has nothing.

Here are his accusations:

Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 02:33 Coagulation wrote:
That being said pandain and geirpt are both prettt scummy


Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 04:17 Coagulation wrote:
Anyone buying marvs tryhard "taking notes" bullshit? I consider myself a bit of a marv aficionado and hes giving me bad vibes here for sure.


I would like to see some good evidence for lynching either pandain or geript. The marv thing isn't really an accusation since he's kinda warming up to him and accusing him with some of the least imposing language possible. So three accusations with zero bite, plus a summary, means he might as well have been lurking. Actually it's worse because when you lurk you may have an excuse, whether legit or not. Coag's been reading and posting and still has nothing to say.

##Vote Coagulation

This first post looks like scum trying to enter the thread. He rehashes thread sentiment by posting a list. At this point in the game, a list of people isn't conducive at all. We aren't looking for vig targets. Looks like sentinel is trying to win townie points without actually scumhunting. He also omits a lot of people that aren't contributing. Why make a list of non-contributors if it isn't going to be comprehensive? Finally, he votes coagulation. A super easy target. Overall a very scummy entrance into the thread.


He then makes a few vote switches to low activity players. Note that he never justified the switch from Coag to stutters.
On September 22 2013 10:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 09:59 marvellosity wrote:
How is that looking at the meta I directed you to going, Sentinel?


Read it.

Alright you win.

##unvote
vote: Stutters695

On September 22 2013 23:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think despite Umasi's allegations to the contrary, he's been contributing nothing of value. After LoneMeow leaves he decides that since he can't get anymore fuel, he'll unvote. And then really all he talks about is people who aren't scummy looking.

I'm switching from Stutters to him because at least with Umasi, if he does end up flipping red then his filter becomes more useful than Stutters who just pushed kush all day. Since apparently pressuring him isn't working and he's lurking harder than ever. We could vig stutters though.

I don't like yamato's big post either. He calls DP mafia, rayn scummy, and then quotes Ray's fluffpost and says HE'S THE SCUM. And he's really got nothing else to show, especially afterwards he doesn't rationalize anything. I'm leaning red on him. Umasi seems more red to me but yamato has more to show for further analysis if he flips red.

But I'll keep my vote on Umasi for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: Umasi


Otherwise, out of the filter dives I want to say something about WoS but I can't quite put my finger on it. Perhaps I'll say something about him and also Koshi when I get back.

Later, he switched to Yamato, who is now basically confirmed town barring crazy shenanigans. No real reasoning provided for this vote switch. Just decides Umasi isn't going to gain steam so decides to vote someone else.

Finally, he settles on Chairman Ray after previously saying Ray wasn't scummy. Seems sketchy at best. I can vote this guy.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
September 24 2013 03:41 GMT
#2730
VE, you seem convinced I am scum. Would you like to ask me any questions that could help you read me? I will answer them to the best of my ability.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 24 2013 03:50 GMT
#2731
I've seen everything I need to see right now. Play however is natural to you and if my read changes, my vote will reflect it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 24 2013 03:52 GMT
#2732
Firm out of curiosity what made you change your read on Zaragon?
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 24 2013 04:21 GMT
#2733
Lol im like conf town mutha truckahs
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 24 2013 04:22 GMT
#2734
On September 24 2013 13:21 Mattchew wrote:
Lol im like conf town mutha truckahs


so am i
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 24 2013 04:23 GMT
#2735
I was roleblocked. Scum biddies rofl
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 24 2013 05:24 GMT
#2736
On September 24 2013 12:20 Risen wrote:
FT/Cephiro the lynch targets here. I'll vote Cephiro. Don't trust the #stagedhype surrounding FT lynch.

Luuuuuuuucyyyyyyyy, you got some 'splainin to do.

Actually, I just looked at Cephiro. Feels like Chairman Ray of day 2. Actually it's worse. He promised nothing but the basest of activity for the first week of the game due to IRL circumstances. How do I decide if he's scum or town based on what he has put there? Well, I guess I'll look at the content, can't take more than two seconds right?

LM vote: Rushed. We were all on the same page regarding the unknown deadline I would assume? Did anyone hint they knew the deadline was earlier than the vote count projected? So the reasons were shitty, but fitting with his disconnect with the game based on activity.

I do hate this for what it is, but I'm thinking about the way he would phrase it. Like, if he's mafia and making excuses, he already has his excuse (busy week) no need to complicate things by fabricating new excuses, that's not the kind of spontaneity I associate with scum:
On September 24 2013 07:03 Cephiro wrote:
Here until deadline now. Left before the nightpost since I was so pissed at the situation. (Deadline-thing) Still haven't caught up completely but doing my best. Sucks to see that we lynched a parity cop -_- Couldn't have started much worse. Questions I'll be fine with, I'll read the rest as quickly as I can to give you my thoughts on who is scum.


His reads on 5 people? Okay little more time spent, but swinging me the other way.
His kush read: doesn't like behavior
Coag read: doesn't like behavior
Sentinel read: finally something he could call someone scummy for, bad reasoning and useless posts
Vayne read: behavior again
JAT read: I already gave a basic meta for him which is essentially repeated

So from this list his best scum suspect is Sentinel.

My last idea here:
On September 24 2013 10:36 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 09:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
I sense a pattern here.
Why is it when people make list posts they tend to outline the 'easy' reads?
Sorry Ceph, you're still a vig for me---this post tells us absolutely dick all and you haven't helped out this game in the slightest. It would be a shame if you're town, but honestly this bare modicum of effort makes me actually think scum.

Good vig shot here ladies and gents.


I wanted to give you something to by in the case I am vig shotted. Agreed that it may be not much, but someone may be able to make something out of it. Yes, it is true I haven't been helping you out this game because I've been busy. Do you have any idea of how long it takes to properly read more than 50 pages and analyzing all the communication in it?

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 09:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
BH has an excuse for not posting a great deal thus far since he wasn't actually IN the game and I ACTUALLY expect him to follow up. Ceph I have no idea whether he will or not.

Why do you ask, my dear?


Is it simply because I wasn't able to post properly during this first cycle that you don't expect anything from me at all?

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 10:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
if he IS town, then he's shown that he essentially doesn't give much of a shit despite his recent post and I am not willing to give him that chance, hence wanting him to be shot tonight.


This is what I find downright insulting, and I'm not sure if I'm more sad or furious right now. Do you expect everyone to live some fucking 24/7 holiday life where they can always have their mafia games at #1 priority? If I didn't give a shit, why would I be posting and reading through the countless pages I still have to waddle through at fucking 4:30 AM?


At least I wasn't voting to kill our parity cop regardless of my activity. -_- In any case, I firmly vouch for vigs not shooting me tonight.

Why?

Because I am an incredibly good townie when I have time to post. I interact a lot, I pressure my scumreads hard, and everyone can certainly get a good read on me. In pretty much every game where I have rolled town I have been able to establish my town-ness to others properly, in a way or another. (Well, admittingly I do that fairly well when I roll scum too.)

If you decide to shoot me tonight, you won't just lose a potentially great townie, but you won't be gaining any information. Me flipping town doesn't really give anything to go by, as I haven't been able to interact with others yet. Shoot someone that you think is scum, someone that will give us a lot of information from the flip even if they end up flipping town. If you genuinely think I am the best shot for tonight, then do it. I trust in our vigs to understand that is not the case.

And back to catching up.

"I'm looking like shit but you should let me live". He pointed out a bunch of people in a similar situation to him... and he is special because he's going to be readable? Well, you have 40 hours or so to make that a reality!

TLDR: not averse to lynching without massive turnaround
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 24 2013 05:27 GMT
#2737
SNB you here tonight?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 24 2013 05:33 GMT
#2738
On July 29 2013 23:44 geript wrote:
I'm just going to go ahead and say it. If you're a lurker, then I'm going to tunnel you into hell. So if you have any intention of lurking, then I suggest you play another game.

OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 24 2013 05:43 GMT
#2739
On September 24 2013 14:24 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 12:20 Risen wrote:
FT/Cephiro the lynch targets here. I'll vote Cephiro. Don't trust the #stagedhype surrounding FT lynch.

Luuuuuuuucyyyyyyyy, you got some 'splainin to do.

Actually, I just looked at Cephiro. Feels like Chairman Ray of day 2. Actually it's worse. He promised nothing but the basest of activity for the first week of the game due to IRL circumstances. How do I decide if he's scum or town based on what he has put there? Well, I guess I'll look at the content, can't take more than two seconds right?

LM vote: Rushed. We were all on the same page regarding the unknown deadline I would assume? Did anyone hint they knew the deadline was earlier than the vote count projected? So the reasons were shitty, but fitting with his disconnect with the game based on activity.

I do hate this for what it is, but I'm thinking about the way he would phrase it. Like, if he's mafia and making excuses, he already has his excuse (busy week) no need to complicate things by fabricating new excuses, that's not the kind of spontaneity I associate with scum:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 07:03 Cephiro wrote:
Here until deadline now. Left before the nightpost since I was so pissed at the situation. (Deadline-thing) Still haven't caught up completely but doing my best. Sucks to see that we lynched a parity cop -_- Couldn't have started much worse. Questions I'll be fine with, I'll read the rest as quickly as I can to give you my thoughts on who is scum.


His reads on 5 people? Okay little more time spent, but swinging me the other way.
His kush read: doesn't like behavior
Coag read: doesn't like behavior
Sentinel read: finally something he could call someone scummy for, bad reasoning and useless posts
Vayne read: behavior again
JAT read: I already gave a basic meta for him which is essentially repeated

So from this list his best scum suspect is Sentinel.

My last idea here:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 10:36 Cephiro wrote:
On September 24 2013 09:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
I sense a pattern here.
Why is it when people make list posts they tend to outline the 'easy' reads?
Sorry Ceph, you're still a vig for me---this post tells us absolutely dick all and you haven't helped out this game in the slightest. It would be a shame if you're town, but honestly this bare modicum of effort makes me actually think scum.

Good vig shot here ladies and gents.


I wanted to give you something to by in the case I am vig shotted. Agreed that it may be not much, but someone may be able to make something out of it. Yes, it is true I haven't been helping you out this game because I've been busy. Do you have any idea of how long it takes to properly read more than 50 pages and analyzing all the communication in it?

On September 24 2013 09:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
BH has an excuse for not posting a great deal thus far since he wasn't actually IN the game and I ACTUALLY expect him to follow up. Ceph I have no idea whether he will or not.

Why do you ask, my dear?


Is it simply because I wasn't able to post properly during this first cycle that you don't expect anything from me at all?

On September 24 2013 10:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
if he IS town, then he's shown that he essentially doesn't give much of a shit despite his recent post and I am not willing to give him that chance, hence wanting him to be shot tonight.


This is what I find downright insulting, and I'm not sure if I'm more sad or furious right now. Do you expect everyone to live some fucking 24/7 holiday life where they can always have their mafia games at #1 priority? If I didn't give a shit, why would I be posting and reading through the countless pages I still have to waddle through at fucking 4:30 AM?


At least I wasn't voting to kill our parity cop regardless of my activity. -_- In any case, I firmly vouch for vigs not shooting me tonight.

Why?

Because I am an incredibly good townie when I have time to post. I interact a lot, I pressure my scumreads hard, and everyone can certainly get a good read on me. In pretty much every game where I have rolled town I have been able to establish my town-ness to others properly, in a way or another. (Well, admittingly I do that fairly well when I roll scum too.)

If you decide to shoot me tonight, you won't just lose a potentially great townie, but you won't be gaining any information. Me flipping town doesn't really give anything to go by, as I haven't been able to interact with others yet. Shoot someone that you think is scum, someone that will give us a lot of information from the flip even if they end up flipping town. If you genuinely think I am the best shot for tonight, then do it. I trust in our vigs to understand that is not the case.

And back to catching up.

"I'm looking like shit but you should let me live". He pointed out a bunch of people in a similar situation to him... and he is special because he's going to be readable? Well, you have 40 hours or so to make that a reality!

TLDR: not averse to lynching without massive turnaround

This whole thing and you don't even say whether or not you think he's scum. "Not adverse to lynching" could be said about any number of feelings, including "I hate this player", "I would policy-lynch this player", "I'm paying no attention to this player" etc.

I'm most interested in who you'd like to lynch because you think they're scum OO.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 24 2013 05:48 GMT
#2740
Also BH is a massive troll for not commenting on the game while he was here. I even asked him explicitly to comment.

Curse you BH. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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