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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 19:40 GMT
#1361
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta.
I had a good night of sleep.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 09 2013 19:42 GMT
#1362
On August 10 2013 04:39 Koshi wrote:
And now I see that Chroma is also fine with killing me. Chroma and DI are just playing the same game but have chosen another member in the house to tunnel / FoS...

Are you calling me scum with Dandel?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 09 2013 19:44 GMT
#1363
Just to note, oats was at the top of my scum list earlier. You're far from the only one. Clarity has become even more scummy to me as he has posted more.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 09 2013 19:44 GMT
#1364
On August 10 2013 04:40 Koshi wrote:
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta.

Town. He's active, pushing his scumreads, and isn't constructing his posts unnaturally.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 09 2013 19:44 GMT
#1365
Ebwop: that was directed at koshi
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
August 09 2013 19:45 GMT
#1366
On August 10 2013 04:17 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck, Oberyn had the best idea of the century!


That's actually my idea

Except your idea wouldn't work, nor would Oberyn's. We cannot coordinate during the night. We have to decide the order of shooting, WHEN people will shoot and WHO they will shoot right now. See my earlier list.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 19:46 GMT
#1367
On August 10 2013 04:44 Risen wrote:
Just to note, oats was at the top of my scum list earlier. You're far from the only one. Clarity has become even more scummy to me as he has posted more.

We are with 2 then...

On August 10 2013 04:44 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:40 Koshi wrote:
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta.

Town. He's active, pushing his scumreads, and isn't constructing his posts unnaturally.

Who are DI his scumreads?
I had a good night of sleep.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 09 2013 19:47 GMT
#1368
Reading this thread is like banging my head against a wall.

Perhaps further cranial hemorrhage is necessary in order to make sense of this clusterfuck.
Writer@WriterYamato
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
August 09 2013 19:48 GMT
#1369
On August 10 2013 04:38 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sorry I've been pretty busy today, tomorrow should be better activity-wise. I will be here for the lynch.

I agree with coordinating KP to shoot lurkers, particularly the plan where we set up an order to shoot in so that we don't waste KP. Tofu would be my preferred shot right now, as he's a total lurker other than a very small contribution with Acro's opening post (something that I disagree with).

As far as the lynch goes, I'm still working on Solstice. Not sure yet. If not, I'd like Grack or Koshi, maybe Kirby or Onegu as a lynch today.

Grack had the really bad opening post, and I don't like how he just made up excuses for Sol.
On August 09 2013 18:50 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm willing to forgive s0Lstice's choosing chromatically over Di because he was obviously caught up in an EPEEN measuring contest with DI and I think judging from both Koshi and s0Lstice's reactions to DI, DI was being obnoxious and it made him act irrationally. (not choose DI out of spite, justify it to himself with the possible waste of house power for nothing)

Sol has repeated his thought process several times, and no part of it was ever that he was irrationally mad at DI. If Grack actually thought that this was Sol's reasoning, then he had to consider that Sol was lying, which is a whole other problem that shouldn't result in a town read. I can't see a reason for Grack to totally ignore Sol's explanation and make up his own if he's honestly trying to figure out Sol's alignment.

meh it seems like something I would do. DI described s0lstice as getting into a hissy. I've determined from the posts that DI was likely being rather obnoxious n0. Also I didn't say it was a town read, null read, just don't blame him for not voting DI.

Sol has made it clear what his reasons were for not voting DI. Why would you invent your own reasons instead of using the ones that Sol actually used? What would your read on Sol be if you were using his stated reasons?

I don't think I'm really inventing my own reasons. s0lstice not voting his townread from a scum or town pov = irrational. town it's illogical, scum not a logical move because it makes you look scummy and is so easy to avoid. he clearly was angry at DI. He came out and said that he wouldn't vote DI because if he was somehow scum he would just get caught d1, shoot a townie and waste the check.

I read into that a little bit deeper and decided that I thought this was his thought process. "F DI, he's not better than me, if he's scum he's just going to be obv scum and use all our powers, f that I'm voting chrom.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 09 2013 19:49 GMT
#1370
Easy shooting guide for night.

Lord 1 fires at 10, 2 at 12, 3 at 14, etc. This isn't hard.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 09 2013 19:50 GMT
#1371
On August 10 2013 04:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:44 Risen wrote:
Just to note, oats was at the top of my scum list earlier. You're far from the only one. Clarity has become even more scummy to me as he has posted more.

We are with 2 then...

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:44 Chromatically wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:40 Koshi wrote:
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta.

Town. He's active, pushing his scumreads, and isn't constructing his posts unnaturally.

Who are DI his scumreads?

You? And Solstice?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 09 2013 19:50 GMT
#1372
On August 10 2013 04:34 Acrofales wrote:
Xatalos, why do you keep insinuating I am Blackfyre scum without giving any kind of reason other than that I *should be better*? You leveled this exact same argument against me in our previous encounter and were INCREDIBLY wrong. Why have you not learned to understand my thought process yet, after SO many encounters?


You started off very apathetic and without real presence in the thread. You've been more involved lately though, so I don't think you should be a lynch option atm.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 09 2013 19:51 GMT
#1373
On August 10 2013 04:44 Risen wrote:
Just to note, oats was at the top of my scum list earlier. You're far from the only one. Clarity has become even more scummy to me as he has posted more.


Would you like to expand upon this?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
August 09 2013 19:51 GMT
#1374
On August 10 2013 04:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:44 Risen wrote:
Just to note, oats was at the top of my scum list earlier. You're far from the only one. Clarity has become even more scummy to me as he has posted more.

We are with 2 then...

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:44 Chromatically wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:40 Koshi wrote:
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta.

Town. He's active, pushing his scumreads, and isn't constructing his posts unnaturally.

Who are DI his scumreads?

Oats is not my prime suspect, but I definitely don't think he's town, as you would have known if you had been reading the thread at all.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
August 09 2013 19:51 GMT
#1375
On August 10 2013 04:49 Risen wrote:
Easy shooting guide for night.

Lord 1 fires at 10, 2 at 12, 3 at 14, etc. This isn't hard.

OOC: Except that's the middle of the night and fuck you, I'm not waking up at 4 AM
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 09 2013 19:54 GMT
#1376
On August 10 2013 04:50 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:46 Koshi wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:44 Risen wrote:
Just to note, oats was at the top of my scum list earlier. You're far from the only one. Clarity has become even more scummy to me as he has posted more.

We are with 2 then...

On August 10 2013 04:44 Chromatically wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:40 Koshi wrote:
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta.

Town. He's active, pushing his scumreads, and isn't constructing his posts unnaturally.

Who are DI his scumreads?

You? And Solstice?

And who are your scumread?
Solstice and me....

So boring...
I had a good night of sleep.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 09 2013 19:57 GMT
#1377
On August 10 2013 04:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:38 Chromatically wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sorry I've been pretty busy today, tomorrow should be better activity-wise. I will be here for the lynch.

I agree with coordinating KP to shoot lurkers, particularly the plan where we set up an order to shoot in so that we don't waste KP. Tofu would be my preferred shot right now, as he's a total lurker other than a very small contribution with Acro's opening post (something that I disagree with).

As far as the lynch goes, I'm still working on Solstice. Not sure yet. If not, I'd like Grack or Koshi, maybe Kirby or Onegu as a lynch today.

Grack had the really bad opening post, and I don't like how he just made up excuses for Sol.
On August 09 2013 18:50 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm willing to forgive s0Lstice's choosing chromatically over Di because he was obviously caught up in an EPEEN measuring contest with DI and I think judging from both Koshi and s0Lstice's reactions to DI, DI was being obnoxious and it made him act irrationally. (not choose DI out of spite, justify it to himself with the possible waste of house power for nothing)

Sol has repeated his thought process several times, and no part of it was ever that he was irrationally mad at DI. If Grack actually thought that this was Sol's reasoning, then he had to consider that Sol was lying, which is a whole other problem that shouldn't result in a town read. I can't see a reason for Grack to totally ignore Sol's explanation and make up his own if he's honestly trying to figure out Sol's alignment.

meh it seems like something I would do. DI described s0lstice as getting into a hissy. I've determined from the posts that DI was likely being rather obnoxious n0. Also I didn't say it was a town read, null read, just don't blame him for not voting DI.

Sol has made it clear what his reasons were for not voting DI. Why would you invent your own reasons instead of using the ones that Sol actually used? What would your read on Sol be if you were using his stated reasons?

I don't think I'm really inventing my own reasons. s0lstice not voting his townread from a scum or town pov = irrational. town it's illogical, scum not a logical move because it makes you look scummy and is so easy to avoid. he clearly was angry at DI. He came out and said that he wouldn't vote DI because if he was somehow scum he would just get caught d1, shoot a townie and waste the check.

I read into that a little bit deeper and decided that I thought this was his thought process. "F DI, he's not better than me, if he's scum he's just going to be obv scum and use all our powers, f that I'm voting chrom.

You are inventing your own reasons.

Sol has said that he still believes in his reasons and would use them again. He's defended them even though pretty much everyone disagreed with them. It's pretty clear that he wasn't just rage-voting me.

If you think that Sol not voting for his townread is illogical, do you find it scummy? Do you think that town Sol makes regularly makes illogical moves like that?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 09 2013 19:57 GMT
#1378
Are we lynching this guy?

We totally should.
Writer@WriterYamato
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 09 2013 19:58 GMT
#1379
On August 10 2013 04:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:50 Chromatically wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:46 Koshi wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:44 Risen wrote:
Just to note, oats was at the top of my scum list earlier. You're far from the only one. Clarity has become even more scummy to me as he has posted more.

We are with 2 then...

On August 10 2013 04:44 Chromatically wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:40 Koshi wrote:
@ Chroma
What is your opinion about DI. You are not allowed to use meta.

Town. He's active, pushing his scumreads, and isn't constructing his posts unnaturally.

Who are DI his scumreads?

You? And Solstice?

And who are your scumread?
Solstice and me....

So boring...

What's your point here?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 09 2013 20:05 GMT
#1380
On August 10 2013 04:51 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:49 Risen wrote:
Easy shooting guide for night.

Lord 1 fires at 10, 2 at 12, 3 at 14, etc. This isn't hard.

OOC: Except that's the middle of the night and fuck you, I'm not waking up at 4 AM

The night is a full twenty four hours. The example is just numbers and even then not the middle of the night clearly demonstrated by the number 14 aka 2pm.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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