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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 18 2013 17:52 GMT
#4281
On August 19 2013 02:51 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:50 Koshi wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:47 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:46 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos, DI, Sharrant is your scumteam?

Because with Sharrant scum, DI is confirmed scum as well.


Sharrant, DI, Acro is my scum team.

So DI just bussed Vivax like that? Reading the rules and pointing it out?


Vivax was already the lynch target when DI did this, right?

Maybe, but people were going to inspect his claim. DI just fucking hammered Vivax.
I had a good night of sleep.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2013 17:53 GMT
#4282
And DI went from lol Vivax prolly town to Vivax best lynch right now awful fast.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2013 17:54 GMT
#4283
On August 19 2013 02:52 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:51 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:50 Koshi wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:47 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:46 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos, DI, Sharrant is your scumteam?

Because with Sharrant scum, DI is confirmed scum as well.


Sharrant, DI, Acro is my scum team.

So DI just bussed Vivax like that? Reading the rules and pointing it out?


Vivax was already the lynch target when DI did this, right?

Maybe, but people were going to inspect his claim. DI just fucking hammered Vivax.


Really? A claimed not-town was not going to be lynched? I don't fuckin think so. DI was just jumping on the wagon for that juicy town cred.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 18 2013 17:54 GMT
#4284
On August 19 2013 02:49 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:43 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:38 Koshi wrote:
Risen
So the best lynch for today would be Xatalos?


Fuck no. Best lynch today is Sharrant. Are you kidding me?

Things that still hold true in spite of my massive wrongness

1) Cop-claim asks for advice from unknown on who to check.
2) Cop-claim gets red check on scummy target who the thread is already leaning towards lynching.
3) Cop-claim lives to d4.
4) COP-CLAIM WHO CLAIMED ONE SHOT COP GETS RED CHECK ON NOW CONFIRMED GREEN TARGET. IS THIS FOR REAL.

So we have a cop not playing like a cop should followed by a lie in his claim followed by a red check on a green target when there's no way someone frames mocsta and IT IS DAY 4 WITH A MEDIC DEAD AND A SCUM TEAM NOT KILLING HIM.

How is this just occuring to me rofl. So bad. But sometimes right. That should be my motto.


I don't disagree with this in itself.... but this means that either sharrant has taken damage from scum or a scum ability, or DI is lying about his hp check. Both of which seem unlikely. More unlikely than a framer framing mocsta, a replacement who seems townie despite the person he replaced looking scummy/null.


How is this so far from the realm of possibility? Three people are dying tonight if things hold steady. How much longer does town really have to lynch scum and keep up with that kill rate?


I dunno, but you're suggesting scum made a powerplay that exposes either 3/4 of their team or their entire team (those numbers make most sense). You were already suspicious of sharrant and some people agreed last daycycle, so a fake redcheck from a scum sharrant would mean that scum think they can win this nightcycle, which seems unlikely (more likely with mocsta killing himself I guess)
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2013 17:55 GMT
#4285
Scum QT: Oh shit Vivax you're fucked. How do we recover from this? I know! Vivax claim 3P and one of us will soak up some juicy town cred from this travesty. Ok team, go!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 18 2013 17:57 GMT
#4286
On August 19 2013 02:53 Risen wrote:
And DI went from lol Vivax prolly town to Vivax best lynch right now awful fast.

How do you even know these small things but you are completely oblivious to the fact johnnywup is getting lynched which isn't a scumread of yours...

Like shouldn't you be screaming to everybody that we should lynch somebody else?
I had a good night of sleep.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2013 17:57 GMT
#4287
On August 19 2013 02:54 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:49 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:43 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:38 Koshi wrote:
Risen
So the best lynch for today would be Xatalos?


Fuck no. Best lynch today is Sharrant. Are you kidding me?

Things that still hold true in spite of my massive wrongness

1) Cop-claim asks for advice from unknown on who to check.
2) Cop-claim gets red check on scummy target who the thread is already leaning towards lynching.
3) Cop-claim lives to d4.
4) COP-CLAIM WHO CLAIMED ONE SHOT COP GETS RED CHECK ON NOW CONFIRMED GREEN TARGET. IS THIS FOR REAL.

So we have a cop not playing like a cop should followed by a lie in his claim followed by a red check on a green target when there's no way someone frames mocsta and IT IS DAY 4 WITH A MEDIC DEAD AND A SCUM TEAM NOT KILLING HIM.

How is this just occuring to me rofl. So bad. But sometimes right. That should be my motto.


I don't disagree with this in itself.... but this means that either sharrant has taken damage from scum or a scum ability, or DI is lying about his hp check. Both of which seem unlikely. More unlikely than a framer framing mocsta, a replacement who seems townie despite the person he replaced looking scummy/null.


How is this so far from the realm of possibility? Three people are dying tonight if things hold steady. How much longer does town really have to lynch scum and keep up with that kill rate?


I dunno, but you're suggesting scum made a powerplay that exposes either 3/4 of their team or their entire team (those numbers make most sense). You were already suspicious of sharrant and some people agreed last daycycle, so a fake redcheck from a scum sharrant would mean that scum think they can win this nightcycle, which seems unlikely (more likely with mocsta killing himself I guess)


More likely with mocsta killing himself is exactly true. Mocsta flips green, lords panic and don't know who to shoot (except the scum lords who just get additional lord KP so yay), next day comes up more people dead. Town chaos, scum potentially controls more houses than town or controls 2 out of 6 and needs only to convince one person to go with them. ggnore

The Mocsta premature flip fucked scum. They had this in the bag and now they're probably fuming in Scum QT about how bullshit all this is. I don't blame them.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2013 17:58 GMT
#4288
On August 19 2013 02:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:53 Risen wrote:
And DI went from lol Vivax prolly town to Vivax best lynch right now awful fast.

How do you even know these small things but you are completely oblivious to the fact johnnywup is getting lynched which isn't a scumread of yours...

Like shouldn't you be screaming to everybody that we should lynch somebody else?


I thought screaming out Shar was the clear lynch in caps was screaming to the thread to lynch somebody. It's not?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 18 2013 18:00 GMT
#4289
On August 19 2013 02:58 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:57 Koshi wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:53 Risen wrote:
And DI went from lol Vivax prolly town to Vivax best lynch right now awful fast.

How do you even know these small things but you are completely oblivious to the fact johnnywup is getting lynched which isn't a scumread of yours...

Like shouldn't you be screaming to everybody that we should lynch somebody else?


I thought screaming out Shar was the clear lynch in caps was screaming to the thread to lynch somebody. It's not?

That was after I asked you about it...

I dnu about this game. But imho DI is not scum anymore... Xatalos as well. Wtf Risen?
I had a good night of sleep.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2013 18:04 GMT
#4290
On August 19 2013 03:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:58 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:57 Koshi wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:53 Risen wrote:
And DI went from lol Vivax prolly town to Vivax best lynch right now awful fast.

How do you even know these small things but you are completely oblivious to the fact johnnywup is getting lynched which isn't a scumread of yours...

Like shouldn't you be screaming to everybody that we should lynch somebody else?


I thought screaming out Shar was the clear lynch in caps was screaming to the thread to lynch somebody. It's not?

That was after I asked you about it...

I dnu about this game. But imho DI is not scum anymore... Xatalos as well. Wtf Risen?


It's not really a wtf situation. We disagree about the course scum has taken this game.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
August 18 2013 18:06 GMT
#4291
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 18 2013 18:09 GMT
#4292
I don't the deny the possibility of an onegu sharrant DI scumteam. I'm not convinced, though.
If this is the team though, then I blame the loss on snb because at this point I would check sharrant and confirm or deny DI's claim.

I'm gonna re-read a bit later and come to some form of conclusion... I might actually be willing to go with an onegu lynch, actually. I think in both scenarios he has a decent chance of flipping scum, and I believe johnny is a coinflip.
The amount of wrong that I've been this game is pretty annoying though.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2013 18:10 GMT
#4293
Why are we even discussing this.

On August 19 2013 02:43 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:38 Koshi wrote:
Risen
So the best lynch for today would be Xatalos?


Fuck no. Best lynch today is Sharrant. Are you kidding me?

Things that still hold true in spite of my massive wrongness

1) Cop-claim asks for advice from unknown on who to check.
2) Cop-claim gets red check on scummy target who the thread is already leaning towards lynching.
3) Cop-claim lives to d4.
4) COP-CLAIM WHO CLAIMED ONE SHOT COP GETS RED CHECK ON NOW CONFIRMED GREEN TARGET. IS THIS FOR REAL.

So we have a cop not playing like a cop should followed by a lie in his claim followed by a red check on a green target when there's no way someone frames mocsta and IT IS DAY 4 WITH A MEDIC DEAD AND A SCUM TEAM NOT KILLING HIM.

How is this just occuring to me rofl. So bad. But sometimes right. That should be my motto.


Read those four points. Kill Shar.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2013 18:14 GMT
#4294
On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch.


Mocsta was the lynch 100%

Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote.

Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 18 2013 18:15 GMT
#4295
On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch.


Mocsta was the lynch 100%

Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote.



This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 18 2013 18:16 GMT
#4296
On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch.


Mocsta was the lynch 100%

Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote.



This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not.


And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100%

((the red check on Mocsta from Shar))
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 18 2013 18:17 GMT
#4297
On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch.


Mocsta was the lynch 100%

Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote.



This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not.


And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100%

((the red check on Mocsta from Shar))


Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles.

How do you feel about an onegu lynch?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 18 2013 18:18 GMT
#4298
Ok I agree with it. That is actually a good scumplay.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 18 2013 18:18 GMT
#4299
Risen has very good points. I just went over Sharrant's posts and they are pretty much full of nothing besides his checks and a couple of town reads. He hasn't really contributed to anything besides that.

If there is s house who has a HP-check left, use it to confirm DI's please.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Sharrant
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 18 2013 18:20 GMT
#4300
On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:
On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch.


Mocsta was the lynch 100%

Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote.



This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not.


And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100%

((the red check on Mocsta from Shar))


Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles.

How do you feel about an onegu lynch?

Clarity, why was Mocsta a likely frame target? And what do you think of Sharrant saying the opposite when he was questioned about why he did check Mocsta?
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