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On August 19 2013 03:36 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2013 03:31 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch. Mocsta was the lynch 100% Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote. This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much. Yeah you're right, scum don't ever make cases, my mistake. Good argument. Im saying why put myself out there. If I am scum I say little become a lord and win the game. There are so many lurkers now I could just blend into the crowd and use the power I will get d5. Interesting. So if you are scum and become a lord on D5 you "just win the game". How is that? Because I am fairly sure scum are setting this up so they can all be lords on d5 have majority get the lynch, lords kp and scum kp. That should be close to enough for a win....
1) SnB needs Clarity dead (Clarity confirmed damage)
2) Grack needs Xatalos dead
3) Rayn needs Risen dead
4) Onegu
5) Baratheon can't be touched by Koshi
6) Acro / Sharrant /johnnywup (Sharrant was shot but Acro still full)
This doesn't make sense Onegu. Unless you are scum in that list and I am not. Because I can't get to House Baratheon and Acro+Sharrant can't be killed in Tyrell. Also Sharrant taking damage makes no sense because both Risen and Xatalos will not die.
So. Unless Onegu is scum, scum can't take the win.
I am going to go with the Risen theory and lynch Onegu!
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On August 19 2013 03:39 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:35 Koshi wrote:On August 19 2013 03:31 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
@Risen I actually like the thoughts you had of the possibility of a DI,Sharrant,Acro scum team but that seems like a lot of risks for a scum team to make when there was no chance this was going to be the final lynch. Mocsta was the lynch 100% Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote. This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much. Yeah you're right, scum don't ever make cases, my mistake. Good argument. Im saying why put myself out there. If I am scum I say little become a lord and win the game. There are so many lurkers now I could just blend into the crowd and use the power I will get d5. LooooooooL Koshi: Made a case vs Risen SnB: Made a case vs Johnny Grack: Voting for Johnny Rayn: Voting for Johnny So it seems like scum controls the vote in Onegu his mind and decided to lynch his other scumtarget. Or scum is not controling the vote but Grack and SnB are bussing Johnny. Nothing is set in stone with votes yet. And I am leaning less likely on SnB being scum now. So its more likely rayn, and lo and behold he just changed his vote, lets see if grack does the same.
I actually might end up changing my vote, Sharrant's target being framed seems pretty unlikely and Yamato rolled over really easily after the red check even with players like Oats still believing he is town.
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On August 19 2013 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:36 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2013 03:31 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:
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Mocsta was the lynch 100%
Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote.
This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much. Yeah you're right, scum don't ever make cases, my mistake. Good argument. Im saying why put myself out there. If I am scum I say little become a lord and win the game. There are so many lurkers now I could just blend into the crowd and use the power I will get d5. Interesting. So if you are scum and become a lord on D5 you "just win the game". How is that? Because I am fairly sure scum are setting this up so they can all be lords on d5 have majority get the lynch, lords kp and scum kp. That should be close to enough for a win.... So who exactly is setting this up? I didn't see Clarity in your reads list as mafia. As far as i know he is willing to lynch you. Can you explain your thought process of what's going on here and and who is setting up what?
If scum can get 3/6 houses they should be able to force a mislynch. Then have 3 more kp to use from lords. But anyway Im guessing NK will be me, shar, and I will have to look at houses to see the third but, me and shar for sure
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On August 19 2013 03:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:36 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2013 03:31 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:14 Risen wrote:
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Mocsta was the lynch 100%
Mocsta lynched, night falls. Scum kills three people strategically and vote for themselves as lords because lords are voted in by majority. If they get lord they get additional KP and vote, if they don't get lord at least in some places where there's now only two people one of whom is scum (see three strategical kills part) there's no lord and town doesn't get a vote.
This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much. Yeah you're right, scum don't ever make cases, my mistake. Good argument. Im saying why put myself out there. If I am scum I say little become a lord and win the game. There are so many lurkers now I could just blend into the crowd and use the power I will get d5. Interesting. So if you are scum and become a lord on D5 you "just win the game". How is that? Because I am fairly sure scum are setting this up so they can all be lords on d5 have majority get the lynch, lords kp and scum kp. That should be close to enough for a win.... 1) SnB needs Clarity dead (Clarity confirmed damage) 2) Grack needs Xatalos dead 3) Rayn needs Risen dead 4) Onegu 5) Baratheon can't be touched by Koshi 6) Acro / Sharrant /johnnywup (Sharrant was shot but Acro still full) This doesn't make sense Onegu. Unless you are scum in that list and I am not. Because I can't get to House Baratheon and Acro+Sharrant can't be killed in Tyrell. Also Sharrant taking damage makes no sense because both Risen and Xatalos will not die. So. Unless Onegu is scum, scum can't take the win. I am going to go with the Risen theory and lynch Onegu!
Thats why I said if I was scum. But Im not. But when mocsta assholed out, I lost passion for this game. So go ahead and kill me. Btw s0L is confirmed town, dont lynch him.
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When I flip town and there if the game isnt over/in scum hands look how fast koshi jumped on the lynch onegu train and off shar.
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On August 19 2013 03:47 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 03:43 Koshi wrote:On August 19 2013 03:36 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 19 2013 03:31 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:27 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:On August 19 2013 03:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 19 2013 03:16 Risen wrote:On August 19 2013 03:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
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This is all correct regardless of sharrant being scum or not. And what made it so Mocsta was the lynch 100% ((the red check on Mocsta from Shar)) Which could be either sharrant being scum or mocsta being framed. If there is a scum framer mocsta was the most likely target. You're talking in circles. How do you feel about an onegu lynch? Jeez why would I make the grack case as scum? And you made a incorrect statement I showed you were wrong. Besides grack is scum, and the first point is more about him throwing shit back at the person who called him out instead of just scum hunting, and ignoreing the person who hadnt done much. Yeah you're right, scum don't ever make cases, my mistake. Good argument. Im saying why put myself out there. If I am scum I say little become a lord and win the game. There are so many lurkers now I could just blend into the crowd and use the power I will get d5. Interesting. So if you are scum and become a lord on D5 you "just win the game". How is that? Because I am fairly sure scum are setting this up so they can all be lords on d5 have majority get the lynch, lords kp and scum kp. That should be close to enough for a win.... 1) SnB needs Clarity dead (Clarity confirmed damage) 2) Grack needs Xatalos dead 3) Rayn needs Risen dead 4) Onegu 5) Baratheon can't be touched by Koshi 6) Acro / Sharrant /johnnywup (Sharrant was shot but Acro still full) This doesn't make sense Onegu. Unless you are scum in that list and I am not. Because I can't get to House Baratheon and Acro+Sharrant can't be killed in Tyrell. Also Sharrant taking damage makes no sense because both Risen and Xatalos will not die. So. Unless Onegu is scum, scum can't take the win. I am going to go with the Risen theory and lynch Onegu! Thats why I said if I was scum. But Im not. But when mocsta assholed out, I lost passion for this game. So go ahead and kill me. Btw s0L is confirmed town, dont lynch him.
Wait what?
1) People should stop crying about that Mocsta thing. Fuck him but the game goes on. Town got a bit of a advantage but he wasn't going to get lynched probably, only shot.
2) Out of nowhere martyr?
3) Thx for giving a townread towards a player we will never lynch.
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On August 19 2013 03:51 Onegu wrote:
When I flip town and there if the game isnt over/in scum hands look how fast koshi jumped on the lynch onegu train and off shar.
You mean off Johnnywup/Risen. DI is town for me = Shar is town for me.
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On August 19 2013 03:51 Onegu wrote:
When I flip town and there if the game isnt over/in scum hands look how fast koshi jumped on the lynch onegu train and off shar.
Why the martyr? Don't be stupid, the clear lynch is Shar. We're at an effective Mylo/Lylo here.
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Fuck it, we can shoot Sharrant tonight.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Onegu
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I had a crazy night and am hungover as all hell. I haven't reconsidered yesterday's reads yet, and haven't caught up on the thread. I did see some of Risen's posts, and Sharrant is town. Assuming anything else is fucking stupid at this point. Like... DI and Sharrant being scum together is an insane conspiracy theory.
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onegu is a good lynch because of his reaction to the pressure.
Risen should agree to it because onegu's scum in his conspiracy theory, no? Or was it acro?
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I have to be shot tonight, there's no alternatives. Lynching me is just plain stupid, but I put us in a bad position by telegraphing my target too much. I shouldn't have publicly stated that I have trouble reading Mocsta.
When I'm happy with my reads I will post them all later tonight, but I think they need fine tuning as I think I'm off by at least one person.
Don't waste the lynch on me, but I do need to die. I'm far too easy of a mislynch at this point, and scum will very likely not shoot me tonight because of the confusion today. According to DI I've been shot before, so hopefully it shouldn't be too hard to kill me.
When we get closer to the actual planning of my death, hopefully DI will reveal my HP (or hopefully he's already stated it to a trusted lord) and we can coordinate my death properly.
My only concern is that I'm unsure at what stage in the game we're in. I think we can afford for me to die if we elect a majority of townies during the night, and they lynch well. It's possible I'm wrong, and we may need to get rid of a mafia member before I can be safely killed.
Risen, I'm seriously concerned at how quickly you turned on me. I get that you're in full conspiracy mode, but you're my strongest town read right now. I need you to remain focused. Your apology in PM's and your explanation of why cemented you as town. Pretend I don't even exist right now, or use me to reflect your thoughts here, who do you want to lynch?
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Lol Ok scum team,
Rayne
Koshi
Grack
Last one not 100%
Johnny or risen.
Look how fast this wagon jumpped on me. Anyone who has looked at me or chatted with me in PMs knows Im town. Oberyn was 100% sure, Mocsta was 100% sure, and this doesnt match my scum meta at all. If it takes my lynch to confirm those are scum than so be it. Sorry I tunneled you SnB I think you are town now. When I flip dont let anyof the people on my list be lord or you will lose as only 5 houses then.
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On August 19 2013 04:49 Sharrant wrote:
I have to be shot tonight, there's no alternatives. Lynching me is just plain stupid, but I put us in a bad position by telegraphing my target too much. I shouldn't have publicly stated that I have trouble reading Mocsta.
When I'm happy with my reads I will post them all later tonight, but I think they need fine tuning as I think I'm off by at least one person.
Don't waste the lynch on me, but I do need to die. I'm far too easy of a mislynch at this point, and scum will very likely not shoot me tonight because of the confusion today. According to DI I've been shot before, so hopefully it shouldn't be too hard to kill me.
When we get closer to the actual planning of my death, hopefully DI will reveal my HP (or hopefully he's already stated it to a trusted lord) and we can coordinate my death properly.
My only concern is that I'm unsure at what stage in the game we're in. I think we can afford for me to die if we elect a majority of townies during the night, and they lynch well. It's possible I'm wrong, and we may need to get rid of a mafia member before I can be safely killed.
Risen, I'm seriously concerned at how quickly you turned on me. I get that you're in full conspiracy mode, but you're my strongest town read right now. I need you to remain focused. Your apology in PM's and your explanation of why cemented you as town. Pretend I don't even exist right now, or use me to reflect your thoughts here, who do you want to lynch?
They already have shots on you they want the kills, there are so many lurkers and what not you arent the only easy mislynch. You get shot tonight imo.
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What's the votecount?
Looks like a lot has happened... But I agree that if Sharrant needs to be killed, and he's most likely at very low HP, there's just no reason to lynch him. KP should be used at most. Although I think it's extremely unlikely that Sharrant could be scum without DI being scum, and DI being scum seems pretty unlikely as well.
Onegu is also a really bad lynch. He's pretty likely town, much more likely than half of the players who are left.
I think johnnywup is the best choice. It helps that my scumreads (rayn, Risen) are trying their best to get the lynch off of him.
Grackaroni, don't use your vote on Sharrant... If anything, he should be finished with KP. Although even that seems more like doing scum's work for them. And you would also have to declare DI as (extremely likely) scum by voting for Sharrant. Does that really seem likely?
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Usually I'd be all for shooting Sharrant... But I just don't think DI is lying and sacrificing himself to (uncertainly) give Sharrant more time. I just don't see it happening.
johnnywup gogogo
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Actually this recent back-and-forth makes me feel better about johnnywup flipping scum. It would have been more worrying if it went through without disturbances.
Clarity, do you really think Onegu is scum from our PMs with him? Why did he just casually reveal information and say all kinds of stuff that he didn't need to as scum at all...?
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Unfortunately I'll have to go sleep soon (early wake up tomorrow), and just when this voting was getting heated... Sigh. Just remember:
1) It's idiotic to lynch Sharrant (he should be shot at most, if it seems like he has to go after his mischeck, although I think that's not really a good choice considering DI's check)
2) Onegu has just felt town all around and I'd be shocked if he flipped scum - a really stupid lynch for today
3) johnnywup is clearly the best choice at the moment - also considering the difficulties in getting him lynched/shot all game, even now (!!), and the players who are trying to spare him
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On August 19 2013 06:37 Xatalos wrote:
Unfortunately I'll have to go sleep soon (early wake up tomorrow), and just when this voting was getting heated... Sigh. Just remember:
1) It's idiotic to lynch Sharrant (he should be shot at most, if it seems like he has to go after his mischeck, although I think that's not really a good choice considering DI's check)
2) Onegu has just felt town all around and I'd be shocked if he flipped scum - a really stupid lynch for today
3) johnnywup is clearly the best choice at the moment - also considering the difficulties in getting him lynched/shot all game, even now (!!), and the players who are trying to spare him
Xatalos seal of approval. Get back on the WAGON OF JUSTICE!
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