• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:51
CEST 07:51
KST 14:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)8Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!39Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles3
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) 2026 GSTL Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Which box art did your first copy of StarCraft 1 have? ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BW General Discussion
Tourneys
BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS [ASL22] Ro24 Group F [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4736 users

GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars - Page 219

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 217 218 219 220 221 234 Next
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 19 2013 05:09 GMT
#4361
Well gg, somehow I got the most useless person in the books. Gl town
Try TL Mafia!!!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2013 06:51 GMT
#4362
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 19 2013 11:27 GMT
#4363
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
August 20 2013 04:11 GMT
#4364
D5 deadline in about an hour. The day post will likely be around 30-45 min late so DO NOT post until after the day post.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
August 20 2013 05:23 GMT
#4365
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
August 20 2013 05:29 GMT
#4366
ENDGAME




raynpelikoneet has survived!
Acrofoles has survived!
Koshi has survived!
Chromatically has survived!
Dandel Ion died!
johnnywup died!
Sharrant died!
Clarity_nl, strongandbig, xatalos, and s0lstice, and Risen have been endgamed!


+ Show Spoiler [endgame] +
Scum has control of the vote. They control 2 votes to town's 1. If the game were to play out they would lynch risen during D5, and that along with N5 night kills will be enough to ensure that they retain control of the vote and all lord KP for the rest of the game.


The Blackfyre Rebellion has succeeded!

GoT Obs QT

Mafia can post the scum qt at their own discretion. I will post a link to the votes/actions spreadsheet later. There will be a post game write up, there are a ton of interesting things to say about this game. The mafia team played very well, they had an amazing PM game and managed to intercept almost all of town's plans. (roles, kp shots, health checks, etc) Scum started off not knowing any information about town hp or roles and managed to learn all of it. They also did a great job of gaining lord positions, and earning trust from other lords via pms. I think the only thing that caught scum by surprise was Oberyn's fake watcher claim, and Koshi handled that situation perfectly. Town just shared wayyyy too much information with the scumteam to have any hopes of night actions and lord KP working to their advantage. Obviously the modkills were a factor, but there are many many things town could have done differently to swing the game to their advantage. I will talk more about all of this in the write-up.

Thanks to cohosts..
Thanks to players..
Special thanks to the players who managed to follow all the rules. I am not talking about people who did something by mistake, but rather people who broke rules knowing full well what they were doing.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 20 2013 05:33 GMT
#4367
I had JUST figured out that Acro was scum. a bit too late T_T
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 05:34 GMT
#4368
Thnx for hosting thrawn
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 20 2013 05:35 GMT
#4369
I was surprisingly close on my reads. Fuck. Sorry town for being so shitty.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 20 2013 05:42 GMT
#4370
Gg, I was way off on chrome
Try TL Mafia!!!
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 20 2013 05:43 GMT
#4371
wait, what was grack?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 20 2013 05:43 GMT
#4372
GG. damn I was getting super suspect of rayne but wanted to dialogue our Lord elections that night so I could solidify my reads. Only thing that threw me off was Risen not instavoting Yamato even though he posted in the thread.

Stupid Town as always sharing too much information. Deserved to lose.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 20 2013 05:44 GMT
#4373
I would like to read scum qt if possible
Try TL Mafia!!!
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 20 2013 05:44 GMT
#4374
hi im renly baratheon

[image loading]
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 20 2013 05:45 GMT
#4375
Hosts was I supposed to get my HP check? I wasnt was I?
Try TL Mafia!!!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 05:46 GMT
#4376
On August 20 2013 14:43 Ace wrote:
GG. damn I was getting super suspect of rayne but wanted to dialogue our Lord elections that night so I could solidify my reads. Only thing that threw me off was Risen not instavoting Yamato even though he posted in the thread.

Stupid Town as always sharing too much information. Deserved to lose.

Agree.

Too focused on actions rather than motive. Ohh well u get that most games I suppose.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 20 2013 05:49 GMT
#4377
On August 20 2013 14:46 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 14:43 Ace wrote:
GG. damn I was getting super suspect of rayne but wanted to dialogue our Lord elections that night so I could solidify my reads. Only thing that threw me off was Risen not instavoting Yamato even though he posted in the thread.

Stupid Town as always sharing too much information. Deserved to lose.

Agree.

Too focused on actions rather than motive. Ohh well u get that most games I suppose.


One of the days I came back to tread the thread and saw some morons saying I was being anti-town or something because I wouldn't respond to every little thing going on. Of course the thread was LITTERED with so much useless junk and "Player X's fantastic Town Read #4!" that shit didn't get done. I think its far more anti-town when people dont know how to shut the fuck up and keep posting Town reads every time they get a chance. So fucking dumb.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
August 20 2013 05:50 GMT
#4378
yea chrom fooled the shit out of me. worst read I had this game. good job chrom.

going into today I was gonna be on rayn and acro. that last cycle was bad for us. not much I/we could do to keep the votes out of acro and rayn's hands. The game was basically over then...but truthfully it was over when Mocsta modkilled himself.

wtf dude.

really just took the wind out of my sails.

ATOBTTR
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 05:51:51
August 20 2013 05:50 GMT
#4379
Things that went wrong for town:

-House checks. Town didn't seem to put mch thought into what should be done with them. Ideally they should have all been burnt D1 by townies who keep the results to themselves. They could also be used sorta like a watcher role to try and get a fix on who might be soaking up scum kp. Either of these options would have greatly benefited town
-House kp. Town had a lot of kp this game, and a lot of potential kp. In theory a town that plays perfectly would have had 2 lynches and 20kp during the first two cycles. Ideally all of this kp could have been burnt on mafia, but nearly all the town kp went towards other townies.
-Fake claims. For each of the fake claims I could see what ends were trying to be reached, but none of those ends were reached and town wasted a lot of time in the thread due to those plans never coming to fruition.
-Lord elections. 3 scum members got elected during night 0! This was SO huge for the mafia team. They had control of half the vote D1, they gained 3 KP plus access to hp checks, which is information that scum desperately needed.
-INFORMATION. Scum knew how town would be spending about 100% of its kp. Scum learned the identities of 2 town power roles, and even had a hand in directing blue actions. Scum didn't have HP information until it leaked. Scum figure all of this out through pms and it played a huge role in their victory.
-Modkills. Yep. Please follow rules. Going by the rules in the OP, I could have modkilled like half of town by night 2.

a lot more is coming later, I just want to get these thoughts out while they're fresh.

tldr = town should have spent way more time thinking about exactly who to trust with what information and how to best make use of the house actions
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 20 2013 05:53 GMT
#4380
I said the same thing. Town should have burnt all HP checks since only Scum need that information. Ideally on Night 2 someone tries to use it and if its already been used the previous Lord was Scum. Keep the result of HP checks to yourself was the best course of action.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Prev 1 217 218 219 220 221 234 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech123
Nina 80
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 7170
GuemChi 1954
Hyuk 130
Leta 90
Shinee 80
NaDa 24
Icarus 10
League of Legends
JimRising 777
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1293
Other Games
summit1g5548
XaKoH 584
C9.Mang0300
Livibee124
ROOTCatZ119
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH288
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1328
• Lourlo1244
Other Games
• Scarra787
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
5h 9m
RotterdaM Event
10h 24m
Replay Cast
18h 9m
The PondCast
1d 4h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
OSC
4 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Mixu vs TBD
Spirit vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
GSL
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Special KOR vs CHN
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.