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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 19 2013 05:09 GMT
#4361
Well gg, somehow I got the most useless person in the books. Gl town
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 19 2013 06:51 GMT
#4362
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 19 2013 11:27 GMT
#4363
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
August 20 2013 04:11 GMT
#4364
D5 deadline in about an hour. The day post will likely be around 30-45 min late so DO NOT post until after the day post.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
August 20 2013 05:23 GMT
#4365
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
August 20 2013 05:29 GMT
#4366
ENDGAME




raynpelikoneet has survived!
Acrofoles has survived!
Koshi has survived!
Chromatically has survived!
Dandel Ion died!
johnnywup died!
Sharrant died!
Clarity_nl, strongandbig, xatalos, and s0lstice, and Risen have been endgamed!


+ Show Spoiler [endgame] +
Scum has control of the vote. They control 2 votes to town's 1. If the game were to play out they would lynch risen during D5, and that along with N5 night kills will be enough to ensure that they retain control of the vote and all lord KP for the rest of the game.


The Blackfyre Rebellion has succeeded!

GoT Obs QT

Mafia can post the scum qt at their own discretion. I will post a link to the votes/actions spreadsheet later. There will be a post game write up, there are a ton of interesting things to say about this game. The mafia team played very well, they had an amazing PM game and managed to intercept almost all of town's plans. (roles, kp shots, health checks, etc) Scum started off not knowing any information about town hp or roles and managed to learn all of it. They also did a great job of gaining lord positions, and earning trust from other lords via pms. I think the only thing that caught scum by surprise was Oberyn's fake watcher claim, and Koshi handled that situation perfectly. Town just shared wayyyy too much information with the scumteam to have any hopes of night actions and lord KP working to their advantage. Obviously the modkills were a factor, but there are many many things town could have done differently to swing the game to their advantage. I will talk more about all of this in the write-up.

Thanks to cohosts..
Thanks to players..
Special thanks to the players who managed to follow all the rules. I am not talking about people who did something by mistake, but rather people who broke rules knowing full well what they were doing.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 20 2013 05:33 GMT
#4367
I had JUST figured out that Acro was scum. a bit too late T_T
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 20 2013 05:34 GMT
#4368
Thnx for hosting thrawn
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 20 2013 05:35 GMT
#4369
I was surprisingly close on my reads. Fuck. Sorry town for being so shitty.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 20 2013 05:42 GMT
#4370
Gg, I was way off on chrome
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 20 2013 05:43 GMT
#4371
wait, what was grack?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 20 2013 05:43 GMT
#4372
GG. damn I was getting super suspect of rayne but wanted to dialogue our Lord elections that night so I could solidify my reads. Only thing that threw me off was Risen not instavoting Yamato even though he posted in the thread.

Stupid Town as always sharing too much information. Deserved to lose.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 20 2013 05:44 GMT
#4373
I would like to read scum qt if possible
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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 20 2013 05:44 GMT
#4374
hi im renly baratheon

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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 20 2013 05:45 GMT
#4375
Hosts was I supposed to get my HP check? I wasnt was I?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 20 2013 05:46 GMT
#4376
On August 20 2013 14:43 Ace wrote:
GG. damn I was getting super suspect of rayne but wanted to dialogue our Lord elections that night so I could solidify my reads. Only thing that threw me off was Risen not instavoting Yamato even though he posted in the thread.

Stupid Town as always sharing too much information. Deserved to lose.

Agree.

Too focused on actions rather than motive. Ohh well u get that most games I suppose.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 20 2013 05:49 GMT
#4377
On August 20 2013 14:46 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 14:43 Ace wrote:
GG. damn I was getting super suspect of rayne but wanted to dialogue our Lord elections that night so I could solidify my reads. Only thing that threw me off was Risen not instavoting Yamato even though he posted in the thread.

Stupid Town as always sharing too much information. Deserved to lose.

Agree.

Too focused on actions rather than motive. Ohh well u get that most games I suppose.


One of the days I came back to tread the thread and saw some morons saying I was being anti-town or something because I wouldn't respond to every little thing going on. Of course the thread was LITTERED with so much useless junk and "Player X's fantastic Town Read #4!" that shit didn't get done. I think its far more anti-town when people dont know how to shut the fuck up and keep posting Town reads every time they get a chance. So fucking dumb.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 20 2013 05:50 GMT
#4378
yea chrom fooled the shit out of me. worst read I had this game. good job chrom.

going into today I was gonna be on rayn and acro. that last cycle was bad for us. not much I/we could do to keep the votes out of acro and rayn's hands. The game was basically over then...but truthfully it was over when Mocsta modkilled himself.

wtf dude.

really just took the wind out of my sails.

ATOBTTR
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 05:51:51
August 20 2013 05:50 GMT
#4379
Things that went wrong for town:

-House checks. Town didn't seem to put mch thought into what should be done with them. Ideally they should have all been burnt D1 by townies who keep the results to themselves. They could also be used sorta like a watcher role to try and get a fix on who might be soaking up scum kp. Either of these options would have greatly benefited town
-House kp. Town had a lot of kp this game, and a lot of potential kp. In theory a town that plays perfectly would have had 2 lynches and 20kp during the first two cycles. Ideally all of this kp could have been burnt on mafia, but nearly all the town kp went towards other townies.
-Fake claims. For each of the fake claims I could see what ends were trying to be reached, but none of those ends were reached and town wasted a lot of time in the thread due to those plans never coming to fruition.
-Lord elections. 3 scum members got elected during night 0! This was SO huge for the mafia team. They had control of half the vote D1, they gained 3 KP plus access to hp checks, which is information that scum desperately needed.
-INFORMATION. Scum knew how town would be spending about 100% of its kp. Scum learned the identities of 2 town power roles, and even had a hand in directing blue actions. Scum didn't have HP information until it leaked. Scum figure all of this out through pms and it played a huge role in their victory.
-Modkills. Yep. Please follow rules. Going by the rules in the OP, I could have modkilled like half of town by night 2.

a lot more is coming later, I just want to get these thoughts out while they're fresh.

tldr = town should have spent way more time thinking about exactly who to trust with what information and how to best make use of the house actions
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 20 2013 05:53 GMT
#4380
I said the same thing. Town should have burnt all HP checks since only Scum need that information. Ideally on Night 2 someone tries to use it and if its already been used the previous Lord was Scum. Keep the result of HP checks to yourself was the best course of action.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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