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On August 08 2013 23:20 iamperfection wrote:
so im confused where did he specifically lie?
I did share my thought about S0lstice, the only difference with Chrom is that I backed S0lstice up and put suspicion back on DI which is what DI is not liking about me and why Chrom is town & Lord.
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On August 08 2013 23:25 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 23:20 iamperfection wrote:
so im confused where did he specifically lie? I did share my thought about S0lstice, the only difference with Chrom is that I backed S0lstice up and put suspicion back on DI which is what DI is not liking about me and why Chrom is town & Lord. Dandel seems to have made quite the spotlight on himself what do you think of that?
I never treated DI as a scumread n0, I always answered his questions and made my thoughts clear. It was only today that I for the first time pointed him out as possible scum because he was stirring shit up. He could have calmly said to me that he was a better scumhunter than s0lstice but he didn't. He said to me that he wanted to kill Kush and that s0lstice is scum.
Him putting the spotlight on himself is exactly what he did in NWM and he got himself almost lynched for it., only because his scumbuddies didn't buss him after all. This time he is trying to get me lynched instead of himself.
But being in the spotlight seem to be a normal thing for DI so I don't think anything of that.
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On August 08 2013 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi did you replace in before or after Dandel replaced out?
After. But I heard the stories.
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On August 08 2013 23:37 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 23:17 Koshi wrote:
DI told me that s0lstice was scum again 2 hours later:
I asked him why and I told him I found s0lstice genuine and without extra agenda.
DI replied to me his read on s0ltice and only after that I ran for lord. I checked, I did NOT share any kind of read on sol. The exchange you are mentioning went: SexyDandel: sol es scum (sick paraphrasing) DirtyPeasant: why he looks interested in being lord (not "town" or "interested in the game", but "interested in being lord" how the fuck is that a reason to vote him if it's not for me) DirtyPeasant: and I think you have an additional agenda SexyDandel: yeah no shit sherlock I've told you my additional agenda, has solstice done that? -THE END- Can anybody see a read in that? I don't. Because at that point I wasn't even tunneling sol that badly anymore. Would be weird if I had shared a scumread in that case.
You forgot that we had that discussion 2 hours before that as well.
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DI w.e man, if you want to persue me you are going to lynch town. I might be wrong about some things but from the PMs you sent me I was never going to elect you Lord. Well, I am not going to ever elect you now obviously.
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iamp why do you have a strong townread on Oats?
He entered the thread getting into a discussion with Yamato about why it is bad to release the names of the houses, which might be because he is town and he is concerned about it but aren't chances higher that he did it to stop scumhunting? Oats also asks stupid questions to everybody that tried to actually start scumhunting to draw them away from that. Sure it puts Oats in the spotlight but it also shits up the thread and it is hard for the other person that is discussing with Oats to not respond to these stupid questions.
Oats DID NOT PUT HIS THOUGHTS clearly in this thread. What kind of bullshit is that? He currently has 5 townreads. 3 members of his house because they are "nice and shit", DI because "he is agressive and shit" and Acro because his constructed posts are constructed.
I don't see why everybody thinks Oats is town.
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On August 09 2013 22:44 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
iamp why do you have a strong townread on Oats?
He entered the thread getting into a discussion with Yamato about why it is bad to release the names of the houses, which might be because he is town and he is concerned about it but aren't chances higher that he did it to stop scumhunting? Oats also asks stupid questions to everybody that tried to actually start scumhunting to draw them away from that. Sure it puts Oats in the spotlight but it also shits up the thread and it is hard for the other person that is discussing with Oats to not respond to these stupid questions.
Oats DID NOT PUT HIS THOUGHTS clearly in this thread. What kind of bullshit is that? He currently has 5 townreads. 3 members of his house because they are "nice and shit", DI because "he is agressive and shit" and Acro because his constructed posts are constructed.
I don't see why everybody thinks Oats is town. You were in that last game oats played in with me, right? See a resemblance? Also consider the pm stuff with me (he posted a really sloppy messy version of it, but it gets the point across) Does he seem likely to do something like that as scum?
No I don't see a resembles. Last game he pushed his scumread JAT on day 1. Pushed FT till he saw a townslip and then pushed JAT for the rest of the day. This day he gave 5 townreads?
Why are you defending Oats 24/7? Saying things like "I understand why Oats wants to kill Koshi after last game". I have not trolled in this game and I tried to enter this game with reads and serious play.
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On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only. Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural. Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere. On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it: On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever. I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected. koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. 1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice. Here is my first real scumread. This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative. Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion. I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two.
I am not angry at Oats, he is however trying really hard to do so. Why are the first 2 not relevant? Oats is actually capable to make cases, so him just commenting on his townreads like that is bad play or scumplay. Why would he call me scum if I am right about him shitting up the thread? Doesn't he see that he is doing it? Instead he keeps doing these things like asking me questions that are so wrong that I just have to respond to them.
What's the difference between a lurker/inactive and Oats at this point?
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On August 09 2013 23:00 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 22:54 Koshi wrote:On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only. Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural. Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere. On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it: On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever. I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected. koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. 1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice. Here is my first real scumread. This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative. Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion. I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two. I am not angry at Oats, he is however trying really hard to do so. Why are the first 2 not relevant? Oats is actually capable to make cases, so him just commenting on his townreads like that is bad play or scumplay. Why would he call me scum if I am right about him shitting up the thread? Doesn't he see that he is doing it? Instead he keeps doing these things like asking me questions that are so wrong that I just have to respond to them. What's the difference between a lurker/inactive and Oats at this point? Do you want to lynch Oats cause he's a lurker? What do you think of his exchange with yammo?
I want to lynch Oats because he is clearly not playing like he should/can play. I don't understand why he is considered town in this game while he is at best a lurker.
Yamato was right, Oats was wrong. Yamato had to endure Oats his terrible questions just like me.
But Yamato is fitting the same profile as Oats at this point, however, people think Oats is town and Yamato is scum. Why is that? They interacted with each other in the first 6 hours of this game and then disappeared.
But I don't want to live in the past alone.
I want to add that in my eyes s0lstice is town and I do not see a reason why he is scum except for not picking DI. The only small thing that is strange is that he ran so convincingly for Lord and is now being pretty afk.
DI seems to be town as well. I was not aware of his town meta and I thought that DI trolling meant DI=scum. Him wanting to be Lord to kill Kush = Trolling.
I don't have scumreads yet on any of the big posters in this game and killing of people that don't participate in the game is probably a good idea. Clarity is a bit on my radar but that is based on associations and being a vassal of iamp but that's it.
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On August 10 2013 00:07 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 23:12 Koshi wrote:On August 09 2013 23:00 Vivax wrote:On August 09 2013 22:54 Koshi wrote:On August 09 2013 00:06 Vivax wrote:On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only. Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural. Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere. On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it: On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever. I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms. All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected. koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno. Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit. You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you. Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far. 1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit". 2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20. 3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread. 4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice. Here is my first real scumread. This is not concise reasoning for Oats being scum, The first two don't seem relevant, and I'm not sure that he's calling you scum just for 3). 4 is him being an ass to you, isn't necessarily alignment indicative. Do you really think he's scum for those reasons? To me it looks like you're angry at him and calling him scum for that. If you think he's scum then I want to see a clear line of thought in reaching that conclusion. I would like to see any reasons you have for your scumreads to be presented in a concise case with no waffle, especially with material from the thread that's available to everyone. I'm not willing to take anything you and Dandel say regarding lies and inconsistencies during the night at face value until there are members of your house to present their version of events between you two. I am not angry at Oats, he is however trying really hard to do so. Why are the first 2 not relevant? Oats is actually capable to make cases, so him just commenting on his townreads like that is bad play or scumplay. Why would he call me scum if I am right about him shitting up the thread? Doesn't he see that he is doing it? Instead he keeps doing these things like asking me questions that are so wrong that I just have to respond to them. What's the difference between a lurker/inactive and Oats at this point? Do you want to lynch Oats cause he's a lurker? What do you think of his exchange with yammo? I want to lynch Oats because he is clearly not playing like he should/can play. I don't understand why he is considered town in this game while he is at best a lurker. Yamato was right, Oats was wrong. Yamato had to endure Oats his terrible questions just like me. But Yamato is fitting the same profile as Oats at this point, however, people think Oats is town and Yamato is scum. Why is that? They interacted with each other in the first 6 hours of this game and then disappeared. But I don't want to live in the past alone. I want to add that in my eyes s0lstice is town and I do not see a reason why he is scum except for not picking DI. The only small thing that is strange is that he ran so convincingly for Lord and is now being pretty afk. DI seems to be town as well. I was not aware of his town meta and I thought that DI trolling meant DI=scum. Him wanting to be Lord to kill Kush = Trolling. I don't have scumreads yet on any of the big posters in this game and killing of people that don't participate in the game is probably a good idea. Clarity is a bit on my radar but that is based on associations and being a vassal of iamp but that's it. I have no idea what the bolded means.
I just reread your page 4 and I was wrong. I thought that you were mimicking iamp a bit but doesn't seem like it anymore.
Also I just felt like you were defending Oats without reason but it seems that everybody thinks Oats is town. iamp/s0l/you spring to mind.
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On August 10 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote: Koshi still looks scummy to me. I just got done talking him out of his big dead red scum read in PMs (Oats) with like 2 lines of text. There's times like this where he really just lacks conviction that makes me think his reads are a pretext.
Everybody thinks Oats is town and tells me that with 2 lines of text. I gave up on Oats.
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On August 10 2013 01:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'
If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.
In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending.
lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime.
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On August 10 2013 01:57 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 01:56 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'
If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.
In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending. lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime. XLIV gg
What is that?
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On August 10 2013 01:58 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 01:50 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote: Koshi still looks scummy to me. I just got done talking him out of his big dead red scum read in PMs (Oats) with like 2 lines of text. There's times like this where he really just lacks conviction that makes me think his reads are a pretext. Everybody thinks Oats is town and tells me that with 2 lines of text. I gave up on Oats. Don't tell me you've been lurking and came to the thread just to say this -.- Not to mention that town don't just give up scum reads after being told to do so without reasoning.
Lynch me and find out I do.
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On August 10 2013 01:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 01:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 10 2013 01:56 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'
If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.
In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending. lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime. XLIV gg What is that?
That game I had 3 pages of post till I got into a superheated discussion with Chroma on who to lynch.
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On August 10 2013 02:02 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:58 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 10 2013 01:56 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'
If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.
In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending. lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime. XLIV gg What is that? That game I had 3 pages of post till I got into a superheated discussion with Chroma on who to lynch. we have had a heated discussion and shit, which already bloated your filter and you still sittin at 2.
Dandel thank you for bringing up my meta.
Town in newbie game:
3 pages of posts till I got into an argument with Chroma on who to lynch and added 3 more pages. Then I died.
Town in I swear 2:
4 pages and game was over in N1. A lot of those pages was me defending against rayn yelling I was scum.
Town in Titanic:
Nothing for the entire day 1 except lists.
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On August 10 2013 02:02 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:58 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:57 Dandel Ion wrote:On August 10 2013 01:56 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 01:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
I do believe Koshi needs a good old lynchin'
If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games.
In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending. lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime. XLIV gg What is that? That game I had 3 pages of post till I got into a superheated discussion with Chroma on who to lynch. we have had a heated discussion and shit, which already bloated your filter and you still sittin at 2.
Also in Sicilian I tried to play town as SK and couldn't even get to 20 posts on day 1 because I had nothing to contribute. Fuck that meta bullshit tbh. You keep searching for reasons to lynch me and they are all false.
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On August 10 2013 02:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
No it's not false.
Nobody pressured you in sicilian, and you have 1 page.
Taking away the posts due to my tunneling, you would have 1 page.
I don't even know what your point is here.
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On August 10 2013 02:13 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 02:12 Koshi wrote:On August 10 2013 02:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
No it's not false.
Nobody pressured you in sicilian, and you have 1 page.
Taking away the posts due to my tunneling, you would have 1 page. I don't even know what your point is here. u scum
gg ez.
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On August 10 2013 02:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Koshi why are you not trying to convince me that chromatically is scum?
seeing as you say you have a townread on sol.
I tried, but you ignored my PM. So please. Going to search for more fake reasons to incriminate me?
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