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On August 17 2013 15:19 Onegu wrote:
Yeah I had a heavy town read on jrkirby based on meta, and everything mocsta has done since comeing in the thread has led me to believe he was town. He was very early comeing into PMs saying vivax was scum and the main reason I took another look at vivax to decide to change my vote to him. Also why would you not check koshi? And why go against the lords and say you were ok to shoot johnny then not shoot him? I posted last night you were most likely cop, I doubt you have HP check powers though. And I believe you were roleblocked by vivax makeing you town, but who you checked I dont understand much.
I told all the lords I would not shoot Johnny. I told every one that asked me, I would not shoot Johnny or Kush.
Koshi is the obvious person for me to check, so he's the person I would expect to be framed. Besides, I wanted to lynch him without a red check on him because I think he's scum. I thought Kirby was scum, but Mocsta unreadable, so it made more sense to confirm my read of Kirby.
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On August 17 2013 15:10 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 15:04 Sharrant wrote:On August 17 2013 15:00 Mocsta wrote:On August 17 2013 14:55 Sharrant wrote:On August 17 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote:On August 17 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:![[image loading]](http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQb5uuvFxa_2lc1rdBqGnI4dF7GheIjlVS943tQFyeB0xPmT9jO) I promise thats not me. What I am is this http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpbc3pWRCV1qf42pr.jpgI eat mother fuckn baby seals for breakfast... The most disapointing thing about Sharant, is that instead of qusetioning why I led the lynch on Vivax; he insta-votes and assumes theres no way to falsify a detective check. I get he can't read me; but its still disappointing. Already thought lots about it, that's why I didn't particularly mention you since you've replaced in. But let's see: You A)Replaced someone I found scummy B)Have a red check against you C)Are a player I can't read So yes, you totally could have been framed, but I find it very unlikely, and entirely worth the risk. Its OK man. Marv can't read me either when I replace in a game. Many did find jrkirby scummy; so i dont hold it against you either. Just note if you take the time to read his filter again.. did he actaully push a scummy agenda; especially now we have more flips for context.. or was he just a guy that was thinking otuside the status quo? Personally thats where I saw him.. but to each his own. If you're town, stick around and do your best for the town today and then we can trust your effort when you flip. Nah its OK I can handle having my first mislynch. I came into this game not wanting to read the thread; so that I did is alraedy way more effort than I wanted to put into the game in the first place. Ppl still doubt even after everything I done in 72hours. Theres only so much a person can do. I find it funny how lurkers like johnnywup come in instantly to discredit my 1 scum / house theory. Grackeroni discredited it in PMs as well. All i know is. I have a town read on onegu, and know im town. So tehres no scum in house martell. I also think both Clarity + SnB are town, so no scum in house stark. Thats why i have the theory of 1 scum / house. If my flip is needed for town to see that; then so be it. My prefer for lynch is Grackeroni or Rayn. I will leave my vote on Grackeroni, mainly because he came up with a lord pm to try and get a JK claim from me. ##Vote: Grackeroni
lol I did that in PM for a reason but ok then. When you first flip-flopped on me I thought it was really fishy. Then I got a thought that it made you more townie because you claimed JK earlier in the game and then I was roleblocked so you must believe I'm scum for nobody dying. (Scum probably split KP). If that's not your explanation then you are either scum or just very illogical.
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On August 17 2013 15:24 s0Lstice wrote:
did you consider s&b?
Yes. Clarity and I spent a long time talking about Vivax and SnB, and I spent a long time going around in circles about them. I eventually decided that Vivax was the scummier one, and SnB was likely town. SnB gave me strong town vibes in the beginning of the game. But I would likely lynch him if I end up on a day where there's not someone I have strong feelings about lynching.
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EBWOP:
Also, he seemed like the other big potential frame target to me. Koshi was the guy I recently wrote a case on. SnB was the other big attention getter that people were willing to vote. Both seemed like unsafe checks.
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yea you got a point there for sure.
alright time for bed, gonna sleep on this
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On August 17 2013 15:35 s0Lstice wrote:
yea you got a point there for sure.
alright time for bed, gonna sleep on this
I'm considering him confirmed scum. This is why: Mocsta should have immediately asked me who I told I was checking him.
He knows it's a PM game. He knows I revealed my first check to someone. If he were town he'd know that at this point it seems that the only reason he could possibly show up red is to be framed.
So his first instinct should either be to deny the check (if he doesn't believe I'm town, but he says he does) or it should be to try and find out who could know so we could figure out if the framer guessed right, or knew the target before hand.
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On August 17 2013 15:45 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 15:35 s0Lstice wrote:
yea you got a point there for sure.
alright time for bed, gonna sleep on this I'm considering him confirmed scum. This is why: Mocsta should have immediately asked me who I told I was checking him. He knows it's a PM game. He knows I revealed my first check to someone. If he were town he'd know that at this point it seems that the only reason he could possibly show up red is to be framed. So his first instinct should either be to deny the check (if he doesn't believe I'm town, but he says he does) or it should be to try and find out who could know so we could figure out if the framer guessed right, or knew the target before hand.
Or he thought he was miller, which is what I think he is a terrible target for frame, and even if you tell someone you lied about who you were going to check last time so whats it matter who you told this time as they cant believe who you said you would check.
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On August 17 2013 15:50 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 15:45 Sharrant wrote:On August 17 2013 15:35 s0Lstice wrote:
yea you got a point there for sure.
alright time for bed, gonna sleep on this I'm considering him confirmed scum. This is why: Mocsta should have immediately asked me who I told I was checking him. He knows it's a PM game. He knows I revealed my first check to someone. If he were town he'd know that at this point it seems that the only reason he could possibly show up red is to be framed. So his first instinct should either be to deny the check (if he doesn't believe I'm town, but he says he does) or it should be to try and find out who could know so we could figure out if the framer guessed right, or knew the target before hand. Or he thought he was miller, which is what I think he is a terrible target for frame, and even if you tell someone you lied about who you were going to check last time so whats it matter who you told this time as they cant believe who you said you would check.
It's day 3, there's been no other cop claims, I don't see a miller being likely, to be honest. And the point is that he didn't even ask. He didn't ask if there was anyone who might have actually known that I could perform another check.
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Before I catch up. I voted myself and snb agreed to vote for me.
Sooooooooooooooooooooooo..... Yeah
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Also kush died 1 cycle too late, meaning one of the first 3 didn't shoot kush (we knew kush had 3 hp)
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On August 17 2013 14:50 Sharrant wrote:
Oh, yeah, I'll claim it. My KP went to Koshi.
Ok that's not terrible I guess.
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redcheck on mocsta... why have scum let sharrant live?
To be fair, town has been kinda steamrolling so they have to make a play I guess.. n4 three of us will likely die, and it'll be the active three.... So, solving this game, or getting close to solving this game today would be great.
If I had to guess, snb is not claiming scum and more likely forgot to vote cause he was flustered cause he messed up and posted a pm to me in thread instead. That said.... I was hoping that would mean I got 1 out of 1 votes and therefore elected...
I'll have to ask this to the hosts and see if someone doesn't a vote, what a majority means.
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So I dunno, if we lynch town scum scum town I doubt we somehow lose (although I guess we lord kped two townies)
That said mocsta's reaction is dumb, so let's just lynch him and if he flips green lynch lynch sharrant, no?
Acro, I doubt if scum has a majority they'll just wait and suddenly hammer someone cause that'll reveal the scumteam and I believe town can grab majority again tomorrow, right?
I don't know if they have a majority, but the current lord list is fucking dumb. Like, how did this happen.
grack over xata?
dandel? (to be fair their house suxxxx)
Then there's me and snb... wtf.
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On August 17 2013 16:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
So I dunno, if we lynch town scum scum town I doubt we somehow lose (although I guess we lord kped two townies)
That said mocsta's reaction is dumb, so let's just lynch him and if he flips green lynch lynch sharrant, no?
Acro, I doubt if scum has a majority they'll just wait and suddenly hammer someone cause that'll reveal the scumteam and I believe town can grab majority again tomorrow, right?
I don't know if they have a majority, but the current lord list is fucking dumb. Like, how did this happen.
grack over xata?
dandel? (to be fair their house suxxxx)
Then there's me and snb... wtf.
Grackaroni = best lord
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Meh I dont like a sharrant lynch even if mocsta flips green, I believe he is town cop. No reason to bus yamato at that point, I also believe his rb claim as there were two claims everyday until vivax died, and I am guessing I was town rb target that day.
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On August 17 2013 16:31 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 16:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
So I dunno, if we lynch town scum scum town I doubt we somehow lose (although I guess we lord kped two townies)
That said mocsta's reaction is dumb, so let's just lynch him and if he flips green lynch lynch sharrant, no?
Acro, I doubt if scum has a majority they'll just wait and suddenly hammer someone cause that'll reveal the scumteam and I believe town can grab majority again tomorrow, right?
I don't know if they have a majority, but the current lord list is fucking dumb. Like, how did this happen.
grack over xata?
dandel? (to be fair their house suxxxx)
Then there's me and snb... wtf.
Grackaroni = best lord
I liked xata. Why are you lord?
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Onegu, why did town roleblock Grackaroni last night in your opinion?
##Vote: Mocsta
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Here's my shitty deathpost to snb because I didn't actually re-read much yesterday:
Here's a couple of things though. Just post this blurb if I die I guess:
Xata is 95% town. If I die and you become lord he's the person you wanna bounce ideas off of.
johnny, DI, koshi and maybe even rayn are all good people to consider for lynch d4.
chrom and onegu are two people that I think if pushed you'll be able to get a read on, but currently I'm not confident in predicting their alignment.
Sharrant needs to be looked at closely. The fact that vivax flipped scum makes it more likely that sharrant is scum, since vivax bussing yamato n1 doesnt make much sense without knowing about the redcheck, I doubt scum were lining up to bus yamato without a tradeoff like getting sharrant as "confirmed town"
Also, solstice, please be active in thread, same goes for sharrant obviously..
Things worth looking at:
Figure out if acro actually pushed vivax or just merely suggested his lynch a bunch during d3.
Find out if snb continues contributing d4 or if he backs off again when pressure is off him
Read the flipped town' filters (seriously, do this)
Bolded is important.
If mocsta flips green we should lynch sharrant. mocsta is a pretty low profile check compared to more likely checks like: koshi, DI, johnny
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