EPTMocsta: "I think SnB is town"
Someone: "Who do you want to lynch?"
Mocsta: "i would prefer Vivax but SnB is okay lynch"
Me: "Can we kill the dude who wants to lynch his townreads?"
Mocsta: "We need to lynch Vivax"
Magic!
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Mocsta: "I think SnB is town" Someone: "Who do you want to lynch?" Mocsta: "i would prefer Vivax but SnB is okay lynch" Me: "Can we kill the dude who wants to lynch his townreads?" Mocsta: "We need to lynch Vivax" Magic! | ||
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Clarity_nl
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On August 17 2013 17:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Right. This is why i did not care to post. Nobody fucking reads my posts unless i am overly annoying. When i am nobody wants to read my posts. What gives? Also Mocsta saying he pushed Vivax lynch is bullshit. He did only start pushing it after i pointed out he was okay with lynching his townread. When you're annoying you force people to listen to you. When you make an argument people can choose to listen to you. It's about being convincing, and you were not. I had a townread on you and you seemed to be all over the place. I have not gone over your filter once this game. I'm paying attention now, but you explaining why mocsta is scum after sharrant tells us he has a redcheck on mocsta seems a bit redundant. Unless you think me not paying much attention to you d3 makes me scum. | ||
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On August 17 2013 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: there was a player on D3 who was perfectly okay with lynching his townread SnB and shooting his townread kushmasta? Do you remember who that player is and why did you not comment in any way into that when i pointed it out? LOLOLOL. This is funny. I spent a lot of cycle asking ppl not to shoot kush. No1 listened; i even argued the point of this game is to eliminate scum, not shoot bad townie. Its funny how you are trying to twist this to my fault and im 'OK with his death".. i wasn't a lord, and thus wasn't responsible for shooting kush. I still did everything in my power/ability to prevent the kill. In the end, there was too much uncertainty surrounding him, and he had to go. Theres nothing untownie in admitting that lololol. And if i was ok with lynching SnB, I wouldnt have spearheaded the vivax lynch. This is just so full of crap from you. | ||
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On August 17 2013 17:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Mocsta saying he pushed Vivax lynch is bullshit. He did only start pushing it after i pointed out he was okay with lynching his townread. This is actually funny. Cos I had SnB as a scum read way when I was pushing Vivax. So.. lets see how Rayn pushes Vivax D3 Ctrl+f "Vivax" On August 15 2013 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax should be pressured hard on D3. Again, the same thing that happened in D1 end. He made a couple of good posts but other than that he is useless. I'm planning on pressuring him hard from D3 start, now is time to start playing if he is town. On August 14 2013 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also we are lynching Vivax today. On August 14 2013 15:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax has not done shit other than popped in at the end of the phase with posts that have done nothing with the current lynch targets. On August 14 2013 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mocsta is mafia. LOL.. thats Rayn "spearheading" heavy pressure on Vivax..... BTW, Vivax didnt respond to that heavy pressure, but he drops it all for me.. How nice of you rayn. Look how polite Rayn then asks Vivax stuff, afterwards On August 15 2013 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax, it's not that i disagree with his "shit". It's that i pointed out why he is not playing for town. Do you disagree with me (having played in LXI) in what i said about his read and thoughts about Sharrant? Do you disagree with me that his reads are bullshit? If so, show me why. Do you disagree with me that his behavior is anti-town in general (trying to cast shit on people for no reason just because they call him out)? If so, why? On August 15 2013 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax why did you say i am lurky as mafia? On August 15 2013 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: <To Vivax> Because i have a scumread on you, and you are possibly getting lynched today if you do not stop this bullshit. You having a townread on me is fine, you having a townread on me based on meta that does not hold water is not fine. I want to have a better read on you, i do read people based on how they interact with me, so could you now please my wish instead of being a dick. On August 16 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm happy that Vivax is getting murdered. I have nothing to say pretty much. It didnt read to me at all that Rayn promoted a Vivax lynch; or went anyways towards ascertaining his alignment. Lets check Mocsta out. Ctrl+f "Vivax" On August 14 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote: In short: Scummish reads (firm at top, soft at bottom) ...Vivax ... On August 15 2013 17:29 Mocsta wrote: Ok. Skimmed all filters and was left with a couple that stuck out to me Snb Grackeroni Koshi Vivax Vivax is scum for sure. His filter is just too "polite" and just prods people but never takes hard stances. Vivax didn't become a respected town player with this type of filter. I fully endorse a vivax lynch this cycle. ... Snb.. shoulda realised this earlier. But a town snb always pushes oats as a lynch. Didn't get that this game.. I need to do another read on him too but I don't think yamato pushed him that hard. U could argue he pushed snb as hard as he pushed acro. In short. My preferred lynch this cycle is vivax. I can live with snb though. On August 15 2013 20:48 Mocsta wrote: ... Either way.. im fully comfortable with a vivax lynch, or snb. (I prefer vivax.. mainly cos i respect his play much more than snb) On August 15 2013 21:10 Mocsta wrote: ... But if you want a rough idea. If SnB is to be lynched; I would focus fire Vivax. On August 15 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote: I still want vivax gone. On August 15 2013 23:33 Mocsta wrote: As I said; im not sure how much to value it; so I would perfer a lynch im more confident about.. e.g. vivax. On August 16 2013 00:18 Mocsta wrote: I still recommend Vivax On August 16 2013 01:27 Mocsta wrote: <To kushmaster> Heres a tip for the future ctrl+f "kush" dude.. in sicilian. you were scum; vivax was town. so im keen for your perspective... please have a quick read of a couple vivax posts, and let me know if you think vivax is as scary as he was in sicilian In short.. RAyn is full of shit. And needs to be lynched. He scum. My vote is already there. | ||
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On August 17 2013 17:27 Clarity_nl wrote: Like, I'll look over his filter today at some point anyway. If you're right about what you said then yeah.. you probably would've convinced me today even without the redcheck. Well.. Clarity. Hes already wrong, so Im surprised you would be "convinced" so quickly. Just thinka bout this... rayn is citing what occured in the thread.. NOT pm land. If he wants to quote thread history.. why paraphrase instead of actually quote.. well its because hes lying.. and i proved that in the post above. When i first started pushing vivax, i actaully thought snb was scummy; so rayn is lying out of his arse. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On August 14 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote: ... Strongandbig I don’t get the early plan role thing. But whatevers. Hard guy to read cos of low give a crap factor. I think hes town personally. Cant really pinpoint why though. Overall; I just don’t feel hes been pushing anything… hence town. ... Firm Iamperfection Chromatically Risen Soft Raynpelikoneet or Acrofales Koshi Vivax mmm got iamp wrong.. damn.. On August 14 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote: Last I checjed. U r not lord. Chromatically >>> vivax On August 14 2013 15:15 Mocsta wrote: I gave an intuition read on chromatically in my reads. That's my basis and can be easily supported by quotes. The guy is a classic blender. As for vivax. He needs more time. This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc Vivax has been busy. Now he's no saint to me. But deserves a chance to post uninhibited Unlike chromatically who has been flying under the radar by choice and then pushing lurkers. On August 15 2013 17:29 Mocsta wrote: Ok. Skimmed all filters and was left with a couple that stuck out to me Snb Grackeroni Koshi Vivax Rayn I'm back to 50/50. I think my issue with him is we are treating the same tells 100% opposite. But he's standing up for his belief, as am I. That's indicative of town. So will give him a beeather. Vivax is scum for sure. His filter is just too "polite" and just prods people but never takes hard stances. Vivax didn't become a respected town player with this type of filter. I fully endorse a vivax lynch this cycle. Koshi still sticks out to me. The really poor logic throughout the game. Not wanting to run for lord and then changing mind when an opportunity came through. He has also shown an inflexible mindset. I'm happy with his lynch too. Grackeroni. I can't pinpoint it off my first skim but.. he's blending it. He shows enough understanding of the thread so is keeping up. But I don't like the moments he chooses to come into the thread. He's not really driving anything so the contributions I feel are fake. Plus u have the whole gumshoe 1hp leak thing. He made a defense of it which was handled well I admit. But too slick compared to his other posts. Smells very funny to me. Snb.. shoulda realised this earlier. But a town snb always pushes oats as a lynch. Didn't get that this game.. I need to do another read on him too but I don't think yamato pushed him that hard. U could argue he pushed snb as hard as he pushed acro. In short. My preferred lynch this cycle is vivax. I can live with snb though. Notice that Mocsta has read the game earlier, in full. There is no new information because Vivax and SnB have not posted on D3. Notice how his reads on them suddenly change because he "read the same things he read earlier". Bullshit. On August 15 2013 21:17 Mocsta wrote: Kush is interesting. Someone else, because he didtn die "scum let him jump off a cliff" I disagree, because its clear they used scum used their NK to finish off Night1 targets. I also think Kush is town. So I would seriously suggest not to direct Lord KP that direction. On August 15 2013 21:57 Mocsta wrote: yeah; but thats giving a lot of respect to Kush. Unfortunately, he doesnt even deserve that level of respect... seriously.. read the scum qt for "sicilian' mafia lol If you really have that much doubt in kush.. sure shoot him.. but last i checked, the concept of the game was to lynch scum; not clear rid of bad townies. On August 15 2013 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Mocsta is okay with lynching his town reads and shooting his town reads. Seems legit. Also seems legit that nobody reads my case on him and now people realize "on their own" how shitty his reads in fact are. Why do i even bother posting? This is when Mocsta starts really pushing Vivax lynch. Prove me wrong scum. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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On August 17 2013 17:43 Mocsta wrote: Well.. Clarity. Hes already wrong, so Im surprised you would be "convinced" so quickly. Just thinka bout this... rayn is citing what occured in the thread.. NOT pm land. If he wants to quote thread history.. why paraphrase instead of actually quote.. well its because hes lying.. and i proved that in the post above. When i first started pushing vivax, i actaully thought snb was scummy; so rayn is lying out of his arse. I said IF he's right then yeah, that looks pretty bad for you. hosts just confirmed to me that if snb forgot to vote and I voted myself, I would not be lord. That sucks. | ||
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On August 14 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote: In short: Scummish reads (firm at top, soft at bottom) ...Vivax ... INSTA-FAIL!!! LOLOLOLOL | ||
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On August 17 2013 17:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 14 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote: ... Strongandbig I don’t get the early plan role thing. But whatevers. Hard guy to read cos of low give a crap factor. I think hes town personally. Cant really pinpoint why though. Overall; I just don’t feel hes been pushing anything… hence town. ... Firm Iamperfection Chromatically Risen Soft Raynpelikoneet or Acrofales Koshi Vivax mmm got iamp wrong.. damn.. On August 14 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote: Last I checjed. U r not lord. Chromatically >>> vivax On August 14 2013 15:15 Mocsta wrote: I gave an intuition read on chromatically in my reads. That's my basis and can be easily supported by quotes. The guy is a classic blender. As for vivax. He needs more time. This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc Vivax has been busy. Now he's no saint to me. But deserves a chance to post uninhibited Unlike chromatically who has been flying under the radar by choice and then pushing lurkers. On August 15 2013 17:29 Mocsta wrote: Ok. Skimmed all filters and was left with a couple that stuck out to me Snb Grackeroni Koshi Vivax Rayn I'm back to 50/50. I think my issue with him is we are treating the same tells 100% opposite. But he's standing up for his belief, as am I. That's indicative of town. So will give him a beeather. Vivax is scum for sure. His filter is just too "polite" and just prods people but never takes hard stances. Vivax didn't become a respected town player with this type of filter. I fully endorse a vivax lynch this cycle. Koshi still sticks out to me. The really poor logic throughout the game. Not wanting to run for lord and then changing mind when an opportunity came through. He has also shown an inflexible mindset. I'm happy with his lynch too. Grackeroni. I can't pinpoint it off my first skim but.. he's blending it. He shows enough understanding of the thread so is keeping up. But I don't like the moments he chooses to come into the thread. He's not really driving anything so the contributions I feel are fake. Plus u have the whole gumshoe 1hp leak thing. He made a defense of it which was handled well I admit. But too slick compared to his other posts. Smells very funny to me. Snb.. shoulda realised this earlier. But a town snb always pushes oats as a lynch. Didn't get that this game.. I need to do another read on him too but I don't think yamato pushed him that hard. U could argue he pushed snb as hard as he pushed acro. In short. My preferred lynch this cycle is vivax. I can live with snb though. Notice that Mocsta has read the game earlier, in full. There is no new information because Vivax and SnB have not posted on D3. Notice how his reads on them suddenly change because he "read the same things he read earlier". Bullshit. LOL. This is classic guy doing ctrl+f, but not reading anything. There was new information. And i explained this to s0lstice already  http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047¤tpage=180#3581 *God its nice having a transparent filter* + Show Spoiler + On August 16 2013 11:49 Mocsta wrote: Yeah. My issue was he tried to dodge my questions. I asked him for justification for lack of followup. And he cited he something about having to read my case on chrom...which wasn't a case. Merely 2lines of thought. I believe he then contributed to ongoing convo but memory is a touch hazy there. Regardless he never retorted to my points and after reading his filter the consistency of his filter stuck out to me. Whereas when reading the game start to scratch I didn't get that feel as there was no thread presence. So in short. He chooses good times to post. But the whole feel of his filter just lacks the drive I expect froma town vivax.. if anything a town vivax would certainly run for mayor. Also regarding pms about yam. I hold no weight I. That. As said befor 1hp is hardly threatening AND scum vivax has no qualms bidding. He was a scum big in one game and shot a scummer. I still nailed him but can admit his playstyle has dramatically improved since then. + Show Spoiler + On August 15 2013 21:17 Mocsta wrote: Kush is interesting. Someone else, because he didtn die "scum let him jump off a cliff" I disagree, because its clear they used scum used their NK to finish off Night1 targets. I also think Kush is town. So I would seriously suggest not to direct Lord KP that direction. On August 15 2013 21:57 Mocsta wrote: yeah; but thats giving a lot of respect to Kush. Unfortunately, he doesnt even deserve that level of respect... seriously.. read the scum qt for "sicilian' mafia lol If you really have that much doubt in kush.. sure shoot him.. but last i checked, the concept of the game was to lynch scum; not clear rid of bad townies. On August 15 2013 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Mocsta is okay with lynching his town reads and shooting his town reads. Seems legit. Also seems legit that nobody reads my case on him and now people realize "on their own" how shitty his reads in fact are. Why do i even bother posting? As for shooting Kush.,. yeah. I did my best to try n get him off the table, but the lords didnt want to cave. What can ya do? You are weirdly fixated on this point I must say. Its not alignment indicative to be comfortable with a kush death. Hes not someone you want to end game with as TOWN or SCUM. This is when Mocsta starts really pushing Vivax lynch. Prove me wrong scum. Q.E.D | ||
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On August 17 2013 17:51 Mocsta wrote: LOL. This is classic guy doing ctrl+f, but not reading anything. There was new information. And i explained this to s0lstice already http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047¤tpage=180#3581 *God its nice having a transparent filter* + Show Spoiler + On August 16 2013 11:49 Mocsta wrote: Yeah. My issue was he tried to dodge my questions. I asked him for justification for lack of followup. And he cited he something about having to read my case on chrom...which wasn't a case. Merely 2lines of thought. I believe he then contributed to ongoing convo but memory is a touch hazy there. Regardless he never retorted to my points and after reading his filter the consistency of his filter stuck out to me. Whereas when reading the game start to scratch I didn't get that feel as there was no thread presence. So in short. He chooses good times to post. But the whole feel of his filter just lacks the drive I expect froma town vivax.. if anything a town vivax would certainly run for mayor. Also regarding pms about yam. I hold no weight I. That. As said befor 1hp is hardly threatening AND scum vivax has no qualms bidding. He was a scum big in one game and shot a scummer. I still nailed him but can admit his playstyle has dramatically improved since then. + Show Spoiler + On August 15 2013 21:17 Mocsta wrote: Kush is interesting. Someone else, because he didtn die "scum let him jump off a cliff" I disagree, because its clear they used scum used their NK to finish off Night1 targets. I also think Kush is town. So I would seriously suggest not to direct Lord KP that direction. On August 15 2013 21:57 Mocsta wrote: yeah; but thats giving a lot of respect to Kush. Unfortunately, he doesnt even deserve that level of respect... seriously.. read the scum qt for "sicilian' mafia lol If you really have that much doubt in kush.. sure shoot him.. but last i checked, the concept of the game was to lynch scum; not clear rid of bad townies. On August 15 2013 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Mocsta is okay with lynching his town reads and shooting his town reads. Seems legit. Also seems legit that nobody reads my case on him and now people realize "on their own" how shitty his reads in fact are. Why do i even bother posting? As for shooting Kush.,. yeah. I did my best to try n get him off the table, but the lords didnt want to cave. What can ya do? You are weirdly fixated on this point I must say. Its not alignment indicative to be comfortable with a kush death. Hes not someone you want to end game with as TOWN or SCUM. Q.E.D No Mocsta. You tell one stuff to someone, then you tell another stuff to other people. Compare your answer to Solstice to this: Vivax is scum for sure. His filter is just too "polite" and just prods people but never takes hard stances. Vivax didn't become a respected town player with this type of filter. You are talking about Vivax' filter. This is entirely different than what do you say to Solstice. You are talking about Vivax' overall play, not how he responds to you. | ||
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Onegu, answer me please? Xatalos are you here`? | ||
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On August 17 2013 17:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: No Mocsta. You tell one stuff to someone, then you tell another stuff to other people. Compare your answer to Solstice to this: You are talking about Vivax' filter. This is entirely different than what do you say to Solstice. You are talking about Vivax' overall play, not how he responds to you. If you say so rayn. What I said to s0lstice read quite clear to me. Regardless he never retorted to my points and after reading his filter the consistency of his filter stuck out to me. Whereas when reading the game start to scratch I didn't get that feel as there was no thread presence. | ||
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On August 17 2013 16:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you think a town roleblocker roleblocked Xatalos or Clarity N1. Why is that? Clarity, as some people had scum reads on him day one from the whole SnB role name claim thing. Why are you asking me this, it isnt relevant much and progresses the game no where | ||
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On August 17 2013 18:06 Onegu wrote: Clarity, as some people had scum reads on him day one from the whole SnB role name claim thing. Why are you asking me this, it isnt relevant much and progresses the game no where Of course it's relevant to me when i am trying to understand your thought process. Who had scumreads on Clarity on D1 end? | ||
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On August 17 2013 18:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who had scumreads on Clarity on D1 end? Lol.. first post in from me. On August 14 2013 14:03 Mocsta wrote: Clarity_nl Like him a lot.. I think he had a rough start, in fact I thought his first post was scummy. Since then, maybe around page 40; he has shown publically the best mindset I think. Is quite open to possibilities and is not haste in putting down people. Firm Town. Its not unreasonable at all to think others also thought he looked poorly Day1. | ||
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