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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 17 2013 05:48 GMT
#3681
this is gonna be a long 48 hours
ATOBTTR
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 17 2013 05:49 GMT
#3682
On August 17 2013 14:48 johnnywup wrote:
lol

can we ignore mocsta for the rest of the day please

Why?
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
August 17 2013 05:49 GMT
#3683
On August 17 2013 14:48 s0Lstice wrote:
this is gonna be a long 48 hours


Let's just pretend it's tomorrow. Who do you want to lynch now that Mocsta has died?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2013 05:50 GMT
#3684
On August 17 2013 14:24 johnnywup wrote:
so i'm still alive. And...no one died tonight? (barring kush's death from lord KP). what's up with that? speaking of kush's death, where did the lord KP go after he died? to me?



Yes kp went to you after kush death
Try TL Mafia!!!
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
August 17 2013 05:50 GMT
#3685
Oh, yeah, I'll claim it. My KP went to Koshi.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 17 2013 05:51 GMT
#3686
On August 17 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:
[image loading]

I promise thats not me.

What I am is this

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpbc3pWRCV1qf42pr.jpg

I eat mother fuckn baby seals for breakfast...

The most disapointing thing about Sharant, is that instead of qusetioning why I led the lynch on Vivax; he insta-votes and assumes theres no way to falsify a detective check.

I get he can't read me; but its still disappointing.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 17 2013 05:52 GMT
#3687
[image loading]
Forgot to post it.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 17 2013 05:52 GMT
#3688
On August 17 2013 14:50 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:24 johnnywup wrote:
so i'm still alive. And...no one died tonight? (barring kush's death from lord KP). what's up with that? speaking of kush's death, where did the lord KP go after he died? to me?



Yes kp went to you after kush death

I'd like to kindly ask for lords not to shoot me from now on then ^_^
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
August 17 2013 05:55 GMT
#3689
On August 17 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:
[image loading]

I promise thats not me.

What I am is this

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpbc3pWRCV1qf42pr.jpg

I eat mother fuckn baby seals for breakfast...

The most disapointing thing about Sharant, is that instead of qusetioning why I led the lynch on Vivax; he insta-votes and assumes theres no way to falsify a detective check.

I get he can't read me; but its still disappointing.


Already thought lots about it, that's why I didn't particularly mention you since you've replaced in. But let's see:

You
A)Replaced someone I found scummy
B)Have a red check against you
C)Are a player I can't read

So yes, you totally could have been framed, but I find it very unlikely, and entirely worth the risk.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 17 2013 05:58 GMT
#3690
Anyways. Here is my death post I sent to Onegu. Feel free not to read it.
However, I ask that after my flip; that you do take the time to read it. Its only then that you can trust whats on it.
I will make this my last post; so that this is not forgotten.


I re-read SnB + Vivax filter.

I think SnB is town actaully from his filter; + Im assuming for time being, 1 mafia / house.

Vivax filter is odd, im not sure how much weight to put on it

(1) His interactions with johnnywup are really weird; hes almost coaching him to give responses
I think this implicates johnnywup heavily

(2) I think acro is town; he puts early pressure on Vivax for the *right* reasons

(3) Vivax has really odd interactions with Rayn; really odd
I also think his implicates rayn as scum, but i could be tunneled

(4) Vivax makes a joke about not RB'n and getting scum to fake claim.. (which I know he has done before, so have i)... but then when risen says xatalos is scum.. vivax goes (im not surprised)...
i dunno, this gives me some real doubt on xatalos.. but surely he isnt scum

when i said i did my filter read, and want to lynch vivax.. he gave me townie points and supported the lynch.. so prob over reading this whole thing...

So if we assume 1 scum per house we get..

House Tyrell:
??Kushm4sta
??johnnywup
Sharrant
Acrofales
Acro isnt scum. Vivax pushes sharrant so he isnt scum...
between kush & johnnywup, i prefer johnnywup as scum

House Greyjoy
??raynpelikoneet
FirmTofu
Nachomamma8
Risen

I prefer rayn over Risen.... Risen has been constantly crazy, and does change reads based on info presented to him... rayn supported the vivax lynch once it was already set !! and kept quiet for a while.. i wish rayn was lord, i would loved to have seen him try and fight the vivax lynch in pm so i like rayn as scum.

House Stark
strongandbig
Clarity_nl
Oatsmaster
Vivax

Clarity is surely town, and as mentioned I like snb. This house is purged of scum.

House Lannister
iamperfection
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Gumshoe

Xatalos has been so pro town... Grackaroni had some weird interactions with kush.
This is where there might be a possibly of all townies in a house; thus, Kush + johnnywup are double scum... when kush dies, if he is town... grackaroni is certainly scum I think.

House Baratheon
??Chromatically
Koshi
S0lstice
??Dandel Ion

This is a tough one... I have no friggen idea. I think s0lstice is the towniest.. im still not fully sold on chromatically; one thing that bugged me is that chromatically never responded to me calling him out as scum.. granted i didnt actaully make a case, i would have expected him to retaliate, no? Im warming up to koshi, i think he actually believes his cases, and is just a really bad player.

House Martell
Oberyn
jrkirby
yamato77
Onegu

This house is purged of scum.. man.. there is no way you are scum; if you are, you deserve a mafia award
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 17 2013 05:59 GMT
#3691
On August 17 2013 14:49 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:48 s0Lstice wrote:
this is gonna be a long 48 hours


Let's just pretend it's tomorrow. Who do you want to lynch now that Mocsta has died?


prolly s&b, but the game landscape has just changed drastically and rapidly. luckily there's time to readjust!
ATOBTTR
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 17 2013 06:00 GMT
#3692
On August 17 2013 14:55 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:
[image loading]

I promise thats not me.

What I am is this

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpbc3pWRCV1qf42pr.jpg

I eat mother fuckn baby seals for breakfast...

The most disapointing thing about Sharant, is that instead of qusetioning why I led the lynch on Vivax; he insta-votes and assumes theres no way to falsify a detective check.

I get he can't read me; but its still disappointing.


Already thought lots about it, that's why I didn't particularly mention you since you've replaced in. But let's see:

You
A)Replaced someone I found scummy
B)Have a red check against you
C)Are a player I can't read

So yes, you totally could have been framed, but I find it very unlikely, and entirely worth the risk.
Its OK man. Marv can't read me either when I replace in a game.

Many did find jrkirby scummy; so i dont hold it against you either. Just note if you take the time to read his filter again.. did he actaully push a scummy agenda; especially now we have more flips for context.. or was he just a guy that was thinking otuside the status quo?

Personally thats where I saw him.. but to each his own.
Sharrant
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada543 Posts
August 17 2013 06:04 GMT
#3693
On August 17 2013 15:00 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:55 Sharrant wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:
[image loading]

I promise thats not me.

What I am is this

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpbc3pWRCV1qf42pr.jpg

I eat mother fuckn baby seals for breakfast...

The most disapointing thing about Sharant, is that instead of qusetioning why I led the lynch on Vivax; he insta-votes and assumes theres no way to falsify a detective check.

I get he can't read me; but its still disappointing.


Already thought lots about it, that's why I didn't particularly mention you since you've replaced in. But let's see:

You
A)Replaced someone I found scummy
B)Have a red check against you
C)Are a player I can't read

So yes, you totally could have been framed, but I find it very unlikely, and entirely worth the risk.
Its OK man. Marv can't read me either when I replace in a game.

Many did find jrkirby scummy; so i dont hold it against you either. Just note if you take the time to read his filter again.. did he actaully push a scummy agenda; especially now we have more flips for context.. or was he just a guy that was thinking otuside the status quo?

Personally thats where I saw him.. but to each his own.



If you're town, stick around and do your best for the town today and then we can trust your effort when you flip.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 17 2013 06:05 GMT
#3694
that's an incredibly underwhelming post, mocsta (I know, coming from me). assuming 1 per house is faulty logic, for one thing.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 17 2013 06:10 GMT
#3695
On August 17 2013 15:04 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 15:00 Mocsta wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:55 Sharrant wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:
[image loading]

I promise thats not me.

What I am is this

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpbc3pWRCV1qf42pr.jpg

I eat mother fuckn baby seals for breakfast...

The most disapointing thing about Sharant, is that instead of qusetioning why I led the lynch on Vivax; he insta-votes and assumes theres no way to falsify a detective check.

I get he can't read me; but its still disappointing.


Already thought lots about it, that's why I didn't particularly mention you since you've replaced in. But let's see:

You
A)Replaced someone I found scummy
B)Have a red check against you
C)Are a player I can't read

So yes, you totally could have been framed, but I find it very unlikely, and entirely worth the risk.
Its OK man. Marv can't read me either when I replace in a game.

Many did find jrkirby scummy; so i dont hold it against you either. Just note if you take the time to read his filter again.. did he actaully push a scummy agenda; especially now we have more flips for context.. or was he just a guy that was thinking otuside the status quo?

Personally thats where I saw him.. but to each his own.



If you're town, stick around and do your best for the town today and then we can trust your effort when you flip.
Nah its OK I can handle having my first mislynch.
I came into this game not wanting to read the thread; so that I did is alraedy way more effort than I wanted to put into the game in the first place. Ppl still doubt even after everything I done in 72hours. Theres only so much a person can do.

I find it funny how lurkers like johnnywup come in instantly to discredit my 1 scum / house theory. Grackeroni discredited it in PMs as well.
All i know is. I have a town read on onegu, and know im town. So tehres no scum in house martell.

I also think both Clarity + SnB are town, so no scum in house stark.

Thats why i have the theory of 1 scum / house. If my flip is needed for town to see that; then so be it.

My prefer for lynch is Grackeroni or Rayn.
I will leave my vote on Grackeroni, mainly because he came up with a lord pm to try and get a JK claim from me.
##Vote: Grackeroni
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 17 2013 06:13 GMT
#3696
On August 17 2013 14:37 Sharrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:31 Mocsta wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:28 Sharrant wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:27 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:26 Sharrant wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:25 s0Lstice wrote:
On August 17 2013 14:19 Sharrant wrote:
Hey, Mocsta, who do you want to lynch most right now? Who do you think is the towniest person there is? Why on both of those?


hey, why so useless with all that town cred you have?


Fine. I'm too excited.

I have a red check on Mocsta. You're welcome.


well this is gonna be a fun day it looks like.

so you are claiming to be an actual detective. you also have the ability to PM two people outside of the normal house PMs. anything else I'm missing?


Yeah, you could also read the thread sometime. The two people are the other people in my house. Seriously, even Risen had to print a retraction because of it. Get with the times.

Yes, I'm a detective that alternates between alignment check (odd days) and hp check (even days).

I think you are town; so Im going to believe the check is valid.

I led the lynch on Vivax; why check me?


I can't read your posts, and it makes it so I can never read you in a game. I found Kirby scummy, but I know I can't read you, so I used the check on you to simplify matters.


So your reasoning for checking mocsta then is presumably because you think you can read koshi and s&b?
ATOBTTR
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 17 2013 06:14 GMT
#3697
@Mocsta Please explain why last night your opinion on my interactions with Kush went from townie

On August 16 2013 12:44 Mocsta wrote:
Haha. I dunno I never seen him go to that effort full stop
Personally I don't find it alignment indicative to open profile. Post history. And check an endgame post

I will say ur reaction is more important to me.
See I ha ent read those games so dunno what he's talking about as he posted no proof.
Whereas u r reading genuinely impressed/surprised and validated

This actually gives me a stronger town read on u. So ultimately it was productive.


To suddenly my interactions with him are scummy based on him flipping town.

On August 17 2013 14:58 Mocsta wrote:

Show nested quote +
House Lannister
iamperfection
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Gumshoe

Xatalos has been so pro town... Grackaroni had some weird interactions with kush.
This is where there might be a possibly of all townies in a house; thus, Kush + johnnywup are double scum... when kush dies, if he is town... grackaroni is certainly scum I think.


I'm thoroughly unimpressed and now am forced to even agree with Johnnywup that your logic that all houses must have scum is faulty.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 17 2013 06:17 GMT
#3698
On August 17 2013 15:14 Grackaroni wrote:
@Mocsta Please explain why last night your opinion on my interactions with Kush went from townie

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 12:44 Mocsta wrote:
Haha. I dunno I never seen him go to that effort full stop
Personally I don't find it alignment indicative to open profile. Post history. And check an endgame post

I will say ur reaction is more important to me.
See I ha ent read those games so dunno what he's talking about as he posted no proof.
Whereas u r reading genuinely impressed/surprised and validated

This actually gives me a stronger town read on u. So ultimately it was productive.


To suddenly my interactions with him are scummy based on him flipping town.

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 14:58 Mocsta wrote:

House Lannister
iamperfection
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Gumshoe

Xatalos has been so pro town... Grackaroni had some weird interactions with kush.
This is where there might be a possibly of all townies in a house; thus, Kush + johnnywup are double scum... when kush dies, if he is town... grackaroni is certainly scum I think.


I'm thoroughly unimpressed and now am forced to even agree with Johnnywup that your logic that all houses must have scum is faulty.
Alraedy explained in PMs

"scum is a sliding scale from.
probably scum -> leaning scum -> null -> leaning town -> probably town.

You were leaning scum to me prior to kush. after wards, you became more town and sat @ null."


Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 17 2013 06:19 GMT
#3699
Yeah I had a heavy town read on jrkirby based on meta, and everything mocsta has done since comeing in the thread has led me to believe he was town. He was very early comeing into PMs saying vivax was scum and the main reason I took another look at vivax to decide to change my vote to him. Also why would you not check koshi? And why go against the lords and say you were ok to shoot johnny then not shoot him? I posted last night you were most likely cop, I doubt you have HP check powers though. And I believe you were roleblocked by vivax makeing you town, but who you checked I dont understand much.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
August 17 2013 06:22 GMT
#3700
On August 17 2013 15:17 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 15:14 Grackaroni wrote:
@Mocsta Please explain why last night your opinion on my interactions with Kush went from townie

On August 16 2013 12:44 Mocsta wrote:
Haha. I dunno I never seen him go to that effort full stop
Personally I don't find it alignment indicative to open profile. Post history. And check an endgame post

I will say ur reaction is more important to me.
See I ha ent read those games so dunno what he's talking about as he posted no proof.
Whereas u r reading genuinely impressed/surprised and validated

This actually gives me a stronger town read on u. So ultimately it was productive.


To suddenly my interactions with him are scummy based on him flipping town.

On August 17 2013 14:58 Mocsta wrote:

House Lannister
iamperfection
Xatalos
Grackaroni
Gumshoe

Xatalos has been so pro town... Grackaroni had some weird interactions with kush.
This is where there might be a possibly of all townies in a house; thus, Kush + johnnywup are double scum... when kush dies, if he is town... grackaroni is certainly scum I think.


I'm thoroughly unimpressed and now am forced to even agree with Johnnywup that your logic that all houses must have scum is faulty.
Alraedy explained in PMs

"scum is a sliding scale from.
probably scum -> leaning scum -> null -> leaning town -> probably town.

You were leaning scum to me prior to kush. after wards, you became more town and sat @ null."



You said that to explain why "this actually gives me a stronger town read on u" didn't mean you had a town read on me. That does absolutely nothing to explain why Kush flipping town changes your view on my interactions with Kush being genuine and pro-town to being weird and scummy.
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