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raynpelikoneet
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On August 14 2013 14:19 s0Lstice wrote: Lol they are gonna shoot you over finishing off the guys they hit night 1? You can't be serious. This seems like a fair assumption. But why Oats and Oberyn? Mocsta why did you include reads on dead dudes? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Mocsta
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That was my reads finished 30min before night ended. It's the same final reads I posted to both my house members. Kept it the same because what was the point in changing. On a phone ffs. Seriously. How does this question get u to know me... | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On August 14 2013 15:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also we are lynching Vivax today. Last I checjed. U r not lord. Chromatically >>> vivax | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On August 14 2013 15:07 Mocsta wrote: I'm on phone.. so bit I wrote at top got pasted to bottom That was my reads finished 30min before night ended. It's the same final reads I posted to both my house members. Kept it the same because what was the point in changing. On a phone ffs. Seriously. How does this question get u to know me... Because there is no point in including reads on dead people. But if you PM'd the same reads to your housemates then it's nothing. On August 14 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote: Last I checjed. U r not lord. Chromatically >>> vivax What does me not being a lord have to do with anything? Why Chromatically over Vivax? | ||
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Mocsta
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That's my basis and can be easily supported by quotes. The guy is a classic blender. As for vivax. He needs more time. This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc Vivax has been busy. Now he's no saint to me. But deserves a chance to post uninhibited Unlike chromatically who has been flying under the radar by choice and then pushing lurkers. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Vivax I liked his first post on Koshi a lot. As at the time I had a scum read on Koshi. Im stuck on Vivax. Since then, I don’t particularly like his posts HOWEVER, I do know for fact he has been very busy outside the game. Its more, Im not sure why he is posting. He seems to be trying to understand the target more; but is not there to follow up. So it becomes pointless, as he does not call them scum either. Again, I want to see more from Vivax regarding iamperfection Day3. Null How do you know this for a fact? Chromatically has been making sense the whole game. Vivax has not done shit other than popped in at the end of the phase with posts that have done nothing with the current lynch targets. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Mocsta
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I'm facing under your pressure. U got me. I'm scum Why u have a good reputation I have no idea.. it just nitpicking and it's all non alignment indicative I talk to vivax outside the game. I know he has been camping past couple days... Heck.. he even put it out in the thread. As for chromatically. Is he a strong enough read that u r going to fight me over this? Or r u going to let him speak for himself... | ||
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Mocsta
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
I specifically do not like when you say this: This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc How the fuck am i supposed to know if FirmTofu or gumshoe has RL-business? FirmTofu posted, he posted pure shit. so did gumshoe. And what is this "etc". Are you saying we should just ignore the lurkers and let them continue do nothing? why? Why do you want to lynch Chrom over johnnywup? | ||
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Onegu
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Sharrant: Maybe reconsider if he lives till d5 or something. Obviously yamato already had a ton of pressure so it's possible that it was a bus. Oberyn: Yes, there is scum motive in his fakeclaim if the 2nd person on xata turns out to be town jailkeeper. It's however pretty unlikely. Other than that he's totes town yo. Oatsmaster: Kneejerk responses, natural flow. He's not playing his best but he's shining green all day erryday iamperfection: I'm going off a year old meta but he reminds me of Mario Mini Mafia. Apparantly also very townie in pms. raynpelikoneet: Shitting up the thread, convinced in his argument and shouting it non stop? Like deja vu or something (titanic mini) Xatalos: His exchange with me early d2, trying to figure stuff out. It made me feel he was town. Turns out he apparantly felt the same. Only weird thing was him trying to convince me faking a roleblock is his scum meta, while telling rayn he was dumb for even thinking he might be faking a roleblock + Show Spoiler + On August 12 2013 21:12 Xatalos wrote: What would I achieve by fakeclaiming being roleblocked? The only reason I can think of is that game where I was scum and used our RB repeatedly on myself to gain townie points. Do you refer to that? If so, do you think I'm scum? There is really no other sensible reason to fakeclaim being roleblocked that I can think of. So why do you still doubt my claim? Also, do you think Oberyn and Onegu made a public alliance to lure out a jailer? That seems pretty far-fetched to say the least. If he's getting roleblocked all game or we suddenly miss a roleblock without a flip, it'll be time to look more closely to Xatalos. Dandel Ion: Abrasive, put himself in the spotlight a lot d1. Has slowed down recently though. Only popping in to be quirky and make quick jabs d2. Probably still town, but less certain than I was d1. Acrofales: Roleplaying aside, his d2 was miles above his day 1. Plus this exchange makes him look really town in my eyes+ Show Spoiler + On August 13 2013 05:14 Acrofales wrote: Not only am I comparing myself to you, but I am claiming that I have been more transparent and have been pushing my scumspects harder than you have, consistently, throughout the game. In fact, the only one I can be sure of that you suspect of being a Blackfyre is me, and I have felt zero pressure from you. On August 13 2013 05:43 Acrofales wrote: You haven't pushed me, I can attest to that. At best you are starting now, but your earlier suspicions can be summarized by you every now and then interjecting that you think I'm a Blackfyre, with no reasons or any useful pressure to speak of. I have been ignoring it until now because of the utter lack of conviction behind it and figure it is just the same as in PTP when you had nonsense reasons that just went away during the game. You started "pushing" Risen AFTER Strongandbig's case. I call that bandwagoning. You have not made an original case this entire game. I have no idea whether you pushed Grack or not, because it happened at night, in private missives. As for softpushing, if it was any softer than you pushed me, it must have had an adverse effect. In fact, it probably did, because I can't remember any of it. I remember some of your town reads, but that is it. Your liege seems to think you are a loyalist, and the happenings at night seem to indicate that also, but I find your claims to activity beyond preposterous. Now make that case on me or shut up about it. Doesn't matter that I don't believe it's true. He surely does. Risen: So.... I really dunno what to make of his day 1, especially his opening post. His case on sharrant had some good points. Doesn't mean I think sharrant is scum but it makes risen more likely to be town. This is only a weak townread though. Hopefully he continues contributing stuff like his sharrant case. strongandbig: I liked his n0. I liked that he pushed me in thread but then backed off to let me scumhunt and then concluded I'm more likely town. I just don't like any of the other stuff. d3 will determine my read on him. If he stays on course he's totally scum. Time to contribute or die snb... Vivax: Not a single pm n2. snb actually made a good point to me in pms. He's seemed to jump from read to read with his reasoning being "well the lords won't go for this so I'll look elsewhere", when the town vivax I remember would get mad that his targets aren't getting pushed and yell at people. Doesn't seem involved or interested. His only saving grace is how much he pushed yamato in thread d1 and in pms n1. S0lstice: Yeah, his d1 was weird and his defense was weird and stuff but that's not what makes him scum. This is + Show Spoiler + On August 13 2013 11:53 s0Lstice wrote: and ps, something that bothers me in particular about Acro is how he treated Oats His message here is pretty clear. Serious suspicion of Oats. He later qualifies this by saying that no in fact Oats is not scum, he just wanted to see more. Here is the more that Oats gave him in between those two thread presences: + Show Spoiler + On August 09 2013 14:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Acro's first post felt way more constructed. Like not even close to being natural cause he was Roleplaying. So I dont think its alignment indicative. On August 09 2013 14:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Because both scum and town have to construct a roleplaying post. Its not natural either way so therefore the fact that its constructed is not alignment indicative. The content on the other hand, may be. I dunno. Ok so I was looking through johnnywup's filter and I saw this And its really weird that his defence is 'none of my housemates think it was scummy'. Shows an attitude of caring about his appearance. Not that he was wrong about the 3p or whatever but that his suggestion did not look scummy to other people. Weird mindset. Thoughts? On August 09 2013 15:15 Oatsmaster wrote: Why is it worth pointing out? Why didnt you explain why its not scummy to think that there is a 3p On August 09 2013 15:40 Oatsmaster wrote: It bothers me that your defence is 'these guys think its not scummy' On August 09 2013 16:19 Oatsmaster wrote: So which lurker do you want to die Xata? On August 09 2013 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote: I feel that kush will show his alignment either way. So you are basically suggesting a policy nk on lurkers right? Cause you dont have specific targets. I dont know if I agree. After this he returns, but nothing on Oats. We would be lead to believe that this is because Oats has satisfied whatever was bothering Acro about him. What in those quotes would set his suspicions to rest? Oats activity has actually dropped as the game has gone on, which would presumably ring some bells for Acro. More, in those quotes, Oats attacked johnnywup primarily. Thats from his case on Rayn. One of his points is that Rayn attacked johnnywup. Again, we are at the mercy of PMs here, so I dunno what Acro was doing in regards to Oats in PM land. I'd like to know though Acro when you get the chance. Giant post against acro, asking him to explain. Not calling him scum or anything, he'd just "like to know what happened" Here is acro's response: On August 13 2013 12:47 Acrofales wrote: You quote (early) D1 stuff. On D1 I was clearly not in contact with Ser Oats, because Lord Strongandbig was lord of Winterfell. In D2 I have exchanged 1 PM with Ser Oats, in which I called him scum and he told me to fuck off. It was not very productive. The bit in the case against Rayn is also not for him just attacking lynch bait. It's that he calls lynchbait scum and then just forgets about it. HERE IS WHAT SOLSTICE REPLIES WITH: On August 13 2013 13:01 s0Lstice wrote: you've satisfied me Acro I think you're crazy, but I believe that you believe that rayn and oats are scum WHAT??? HOW?!?! Acro just told you that he wasn't pming with oats and on d2 he sent him 1 pm telling oats that he's scum He didn't answer any of s0lstice's questions. Yet s0lstice is satisfied?? Clearly he just cared that he was answered. This implies he clearly did not care about finding scum, nor did he care about the content of the answer to his question. Why? Because he's scum and he already knows everyone's alignment, and the only reason he made a giant post was to appear active. Onegu: Day 1: soft defends some people and does nothing Day 2: Other than co-operating with oberyn (which is null at best, scum at worst since no one claimed the roleblock) he does nothing Here's the thing though..... he's not a lurker. He has 8 pages of filter. Yet he has done nothing. Notice how many questions he asks, how little he follows up, and how he doesn't appear to get reads off of the answers he gets. That is scum trying to appear active and trying to blend in. Also association: + Show Spoiler + On August 11 2013 22:31 Onegu wrote: I have been talking with yamato and some of his stances and thoughts on oberyn made me have a townie feeling on him. He said he was going to post a case on Acro but hasnt done it yet though. Fuck knows category: johnnywup: apparantly he's lynchbait? I dunno, just looks like scum to me. Apparently isn't. Would love someone to explain this properly. kush: I can't read this guy. What snb said is correct though, if he's right about everything then he's scum. Total troll though. Shoot this guy. Koshi: I couldn't actually remember ANYTHING he did d2... then I checked his filter and yeah.... not so great. Starting to become another good vigi shot. Chromatically: Apparantly he's been scumhunting well in pms...? I really hate this. Scumhunt in the damn thread. From the thread alone he looks scummy to me. grack: I dunno Everyone else: meh | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Onegu Was sceptical of him at first as we was quite open with me from the get-go. But our first comparison of reads was similar and for the same reasons so I like his mindset. I think he just lacks confidence currently, hence needs to put more balls in the thread. I hope that him being lord this cycle will allow him to grow more presence. Firm Town. If you wrote your reads before the daypost how can you know this? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
We vote for the Lord's. I agreed for onegu to be lord. So did oberyn. I had over 50pm with both of them yesterday. I'm confident both r town Clearly oberyn is/was | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On August 14 2013 14:42 Mocsta wrote: Johnny. Whilst I disagree on kush I won't fight u about it. He's just one of those guys everyone gets burned by eventually. What I will query instead is this. There's more than 2 scum in the game. Please provide an alternative to kush that we can discuss. acro has a good case on kush which may change your mind if he posts it. i was convinced kush was scum before i saw the case so i may be a little biased though koshi or risen imoimo | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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johnnywup
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
This makes one of xata/grack more likely to be scum since they were both aware of gumshoe's 1 hp before n1 nightpost. Still very unlikely it's a townshot. I thought it might have been iamp as a vigi.... but obviously that's not the case. I didn't include grack in my post cause I ran outta time to make it and had a hard time getting read on him. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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