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On August 14 2013 15:30 raynpElikoneet wrote:Yes i am going to let him speak for himself. He is not a strong enough read for me. I specifically do not like when you say this: Show nested quote +This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc How the fuck am i supposed to know if FirmTofu or gumshoe has RL-business? FirmTofu posted, he posted pure shit. so did gumshoe. And what is this "etc". Are you saying we should just ignore the lurkers and let them continue do nothing? why? Why do you want to lynch Chrom over johnnywup?
This is a pretty scummy post by the way rayn
But we can continue picking this bone. Its helping me discern your alignment. Can't say it's helping u discern mine.
More nitpicking.
Regarding the irl busy ppl. Try reading their posts. They have expressed it succinctly.
Ft should never have been lynched. It was a policy lynch based on nothing but a hunch. Others were far better lynches given that point in time.
As for chrome over johnny. Have a read of ny list post. Should explain it well.
The town attmosphere u r perpetuating is horrid rayn.
Let me know when u have an alignment indicative question for me.
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On August 14 2013 15:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
Turns out they split the kp to kill a bunch of people today, or at least that's the likeliest explanation in my eyes.
This makes one of xata/grack more likely to be scum since they were both aware of gumshoe's 1 hp before n1 nightpost.
Still very unlikely it's a townshot. I thought it might have been iamp as a vigi.... but obviously that's not the case.
I didn't include grack in my post cause I ran outta time to make it and had a hard time getting read on him.
Completely agree and was thinking this already.. I.e. kill split implicating grack/xat
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On August 14 2013 15:38 johnnywup wrote:there's the fact that i'm not scum, rayn. pretty good reason not to lynch me Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 14:42 Mocsta wrote:
Johnny. Whilst I disagree on kush I won't fight u about it. He's just one of those guys everyone gets burned by eventually.
What I will query instead is this.
There's more than 2 scum in the game. Please provide an alternative to kush that we can discuss. acro has a good case on kush which may change your mind if he posts it. i was convinced kush was scum before i saw the case so i may be a little biased though koshi or risen imoimo
Walk me through in a couple points
Why risen or koshi demonstrate a scum mindset pls
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On August 14 2013 15:45 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 15:30 raynpElikoneet wrote:Yes i am going to let him speak for himself. He is not a strong enough read for me. I specifically do not like when you say this: This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc How the fuck am i supposed to know if FirmTofu or gumshoe has RL-business? FirmTofu posted, he posted pure shit. so did gumshoe. And what is this "etc". Are you saying we should just ignore the lurkers and let them continue do nothing? why? Why do you want to lynch Chrom over johnnywup? This is a pretty scummy post by the way rayn But we can continue picking this bone. Its helping me discern your alignment. Can't say it's helping u discern mine. More nitpicking. Regarding the irl busy ppl. Try reading their posts. They have expressed it succinctly. Ft should never have been lynched. It was a policy lynch based on nothing but a hunch. Others were far better lynches given that point in time. As for chrome over johnny. Have a read of ny list post. Should explain it well. The town attmosphere u r perpetuating is horrid rayn. Let me know when u have an alignment indicative question for me.
Explain to me why FT should have not been lynced and who should have been lynced instead?
Easy for you to say as you were not in the game.
Btw all your reads are pretty much "i dunno" and then some people are town and some are scum.--
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Also please explain how Risen got lord instead of rayn. Did Risen not budge and rayn was forced to consolidate or?
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On August 14 2013 15:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
Also please explain how Risen got lord instead of rayn. Did Risen not budge and rayn was forced to consolidate or?
Pretty much yeah.
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On August 14 2013 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 15:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
Also please explain how Risen got lord instead of rayn. Did Risen not budge and rayn was forced to consolidate or? Pretty much yeah.
Did you find that to be scummy?
I disagree with your assessment of mocsta's list btw.
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On August 14 2013 16:03 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 14 2013 15:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
Also please explain how Risen got lord instead of rayn. Did Risen not budge and rayn was forced to consolidate or? Pretty much yeah. Did you find that to be scummy? I disagree with your assessment of mocsta's list btw.
No i don't, because of stuff and things.
Mocsta's Koshi, Clarity, Onegu reads are well enough explained, everything else is pretty "could be or could not be" or just plain wrong.
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Mocsta where did you go? Why should we not have lynched FT?
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On August 14 2013 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 15:45 Mocsta wrote:On August 14 2013 15:30 raynpElikoneet wrote:Yes i am going to let him speak for himself. He is not a strong enough read for me. I specifically do not like when you say this: This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc How the fuck am i supposed to know if FirmTofu or gumshoe has RL-business? FirmTofu posted, he posted pure shit. so did gumshoe. And what is this "etc". Are you saying we should just ignore the lurkers and let them continue do nothing? why? Why do you want to lynch Chrom over johnnywup? This is a pretty scummy post by the way rayn But we can continue picking this bone. Its helping me discern your alignment. Can't say it's helping u discern mine. More nitpicking. Regarding the irl busy ppl. Try reading their posts. They have expressed it succinctly. Ft should never have been lynched. It was a policy lynch based on nothing but a hunch. Others were far better lynches given that point in time. As for chrome over johnny. Have a read of ny list post. Should explain it well. The town attmosphere u r perpetuating is horrid rayn. Let me know when u have an alignment indicative question for me. Explain to me why FT should have not been lynced and who should have been lynced instead? Easy for you to say as you were not in the game. Btw all your reads are pretty much "i dunno" and then some people are town and some are scum.--
Rayn.
I can go into detail of why ft was a bad lynch. But what does this accomplish for town today? Ultimately he flipped town. So your philosophy is flawed already.
I find it interesting again how u r choosing to "pressure" me. Lets play along.
U think my reads are "I dunno".. ok.. so how come u r not prodding me to understand my mindset
My issue with our discourse this cycle is your need to blindly nitpick irrelevant things and defend chromatically.. nowhere are u trying to understand me
Personally. I expect more from u if town than the effort u put in with me so farl
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On August 14 2013 16:15 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 14 2013 15:45 Mocsta wrote:On August 14 2013 15:30 raynpElikoneet wrote:Yes i am going to let him speak for himself. He is not a strong enough read for me. I specifically do not like when you say this: This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc How the fuck am i supposed to know if FirmTofu or gumshoe has RL-business? FirmTofu posted, he posted pure shit. so did gumshoe. And what is this "etc". Are you saying we should just ignore the lurkers and let them continue do nothing? why? Why do you want to lynch Chrom over johnnywup? This is a pretty scummy post by the way rayn But we can continue picking this bone. Its helping me discern your alignment. Can't say it's helping u discern mine. More nitpicking. Regarding the irl busy ppl. Try reading their posts. They have expressed it succinctly. Ft should never have been lynched. It was a policy lynch based on nothing but a hunch. Others were far better lynches given that point in time. As for chrome over johnny. Have a read of ny list post. Should explain it well. The town attmosphere u r perpetuating is horrid rayn. Let me know when u have an alignment indicative question for me. Explain to me why FT should have not been lynced and who should have been lynced instead? Easy for you to say as you were not in the game. Btw all your reads are pretty much "i dunno" and then some people are town and some are scum.-- Rayn. I can go into detail of why ft was a bad lynch. But what does this accomplish for town today? Ultimately he flipped town. So your philosophy is flawed already. I find it interesting again how u r choosing to "pressure" me. Lets play along. U think my reads are "I dunno".. ok.. so how come u r not prodding me to understand my mindset My issue with our discourse this cycle is your need to blindly nitpick irrelevant things and defend chromatically.. nowhere are u trying to understand me Personally. I expect more from u if town than the effort u put in with me so farl
Yes this helps me figuring out your alignment.
One more question, have you followed the game before replacing in?
I'll give my conclusion in ~2 hours, now i need a bit more sleep.
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Clarity
Regarding onegu
Here's a stupid thing.. take it as u want
That house list before the night post. He was meant to pm that to me.. instead he posted in the thread.
Anyways. He pms going sorry. I'm going to be modkilled what do I do.
I suggested apologise to Dr.p and edit out.
Anyways. If this guy was a scummer. I imagine first course of action is to go to qt... Not pm me.
Weak heuristic I know. So take it as u want.
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On August 14 2013 16:21 Mocsta wrote:
Clarity
Regarding onegu
Here's a stupid thing.. take it as u want
That house list before the night post. He was meant to pm that to me.. instead he posted in the thread.
Anyways. He pms going sorry. I'm going to be modkilled what do I do.
I suggested apologise to Dr.p and edit out.
Anyways. If this guy was a scummer. I imagine first course of action is to go to qt... Not pm me.
Weak heuristic I know. So take it as u want.
Bleh. I guess? I wanna lynch s0lstice today anyway so he has a chance to show he's town other than tripping on his own feet and crying green tears rather than red ones.
What do you think of my point on s0lstice?
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On August 14 2013 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 16:15 Mocsta wrote:On August 14 2013 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 14 2013 15:45 Mocsta wrote:On August 14 2013 15:30 raynpElikoneet wrote:Yes i am going to let him speak for himself. He is not a strong enough read for me. I specifically do not like when you say this: This town keeps wanting to lynch ppl with genuine in real life business. Did u not learn your lesson with gumshoe. Firm tofu etc How the fuck am i supposed to know if FirmTofu or gumshoe has RL-business? FirmTofu posted, he posted pure shit. so did gumshoe. And what is this "etc". Are you saying we should just ignore the lurkers and let them continue do nothing? why? Why do you want to lynch Chrom over johnnywup? This is a pretty scummy post by the way rayn But we can continue picking this bone. Its helping me discern your alignment. Can't say it's helping u discern mine. More nitpicking. Regarding the irl busy ppl. Try reading their posts. They have expressed it succinctly. Ft should never have been lynched. It was a policy lynch based on nothing but a hunch. Others were far better lynches given that point in time. As for chrome over johnny. Have a read of ny list post. Should explain it well. The town attmosphere u r perpetuating is horrid rayn. Let me know when u have an alignment indicative question for me. Explain to me why FT should have not been lynced and who should have been lynced instead? Easy for you to say as you were not in the game. Btw all your reads are pretty much "i dunno" and then some people are town and some are scum.-- Rayn. I can go into detail of why ft was a bad lynch. But what does this accomplish for town today? Ultimately he flipped town. So your philosophy is flawed already. I find it interesting again how u r choosing to "pressure" me. Lets play along. U think my reads are "I dunno".. ok.. so how come u r not prodding me to understand my mindset My issue with our discourse this cycle is your need to blindly nitpick irrelevant things and defend chromatically.. nowhere are u trying to understand me Personally. I expect more from u if town than the effort u put in with me so farl Yes this helps me figuring out your alignment. One more question, have you followed the game before replacing in? I'll give my conclusion in ~2 hours, now i need a bit more sleep.
Lol.. yeah ok....
The answer to your query is in my first post
But I hate it when ppl say that.. so no I didn't read the gamei came in yesterday
Had many pm with onegu... I was very concerned because he was too open with me abd started off by giving me the recap I asked for. It piqued my interest to read the start.
We then discussed early reads... Our Convo was very natural and he showed me a mindset he hasn't shared in the thread.
Anyways this made me read the rest of the game and I powered through it. Finishing one he before deadline
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On August 14 2013 16:28 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 16:21 Mocsta wrote:
Clarity
Regarding onegu
Here's a stupid thing.. take it as u want
That house list before the night post. He was meant to pm that to me.. instead he posted in the thread.
Anyways. He pms going sorry. I'm going to be modkilled what do I do.
I suggested apologise to Dr.p and edit out.
Anyways. If this guy was a scummer. I imagine first course of action is to go to qt... Not pm me.
Weak heuristic I know. So take it as u want.
Bleh. I guess? I wanna lynch s0lstice today anyway so he has a chance to show he's town other than tripping on his own feet and crying green tears rather than red ones. What do you think of my point on s0lstice?
Sol is a major question mark for me.
The criticism is valid abd I'm keen to hear a response.
That is why I prefer chromatically. Instead of being a question mark needing lots of effort to decipher. He's got a filter ready to go. Chromatically might be relatively unknown.but I know him and expect way more than proposing a low activity lynch... It stinks majorly
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On August 11 2013 22:31 Onegu wrote:I have been talking with yamato and some of his stances and thoughts on oberyn made me have a townie feeling on him. He said he was going to post a case on Acro but hasnt done it yet though.
Ok so I had like 6-7 PMs with Yamato night 1 about oberyn and how he made himself have the last shot for lord KP and if the people who they wanted to shoot died before his turn he could shoot whoever he wanted, and also about the HP check and if he used it day 1 and just said he didnt use it and we continued to vote him lord we could never know if he used it or not. Yamato defended oberyn, and said he was happy with oberyn being lord. He could have said yeah we should switch lord and became lord himself but he didnt, and I thought that was town.
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Just a quick observation.
The fact that I got roleblocked n1 but not roleblocked or killed n2 suggests it was a town action. This makes it more likely that xata is town since it's more likely it's a scum roleblock.
@mocsta, it's worth noting that iamp came to the defense of chrom really quickly in thread. I just hope he shows us in thread what he apparantly showed iamp in pms (and s0lstice did the same but I think he's scum)
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btw what was this about mocsta?
On August 13 2013 13:56 Mocsta wrote:
Who should I jail tonight?
Oats asks if you're claiming jailkeeper which is not a dumb question (which is what you told him), rather an obvious one actually. Am I missing something?
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Clarity
I agree with the rb logic
So... That leaves us with the gracken
Q about sol
Do u think higher chance of mafia or 3p
Don't jump on me for the 3p...it's a question to check how emotionally attached u r to the read.
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On August 14 2013 17:26 Clarity_nl wrote:btw what was this about mocsta? Oats asks if you're claiming jailkeeper which is not a dumb question (which is what you told him), rather an obvious one actually. Am I missing something?
Oberyn queried this too. He thought I was trying to escape being shot
1.I didn't even know I was up for being shot
2.I think the post lost context cos it went to a new page
It was a quip based on someone saying who should I kill
Q.
The Lord's didn't kill anyone during night.. do we have confirmation on who the agreed targets were? All I know is agreed shooting times..
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