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Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
August 12 2013 18:06 GMT
#2381
On August 13 2013 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 02:59 Oberyn wrote:
Onegu finds this post scummy.

"Finally read the thread, I am most suspicious of Jrkirby. First off Nobody in House Martell has gotten a good read off of him because nobody in House Martell really talked to each."

yamato and myself have posted in the thread that we haven't talked a lot with jrkirby, so I'm less convinced.

Well did you guys talk with each other (other than Jrkirby) much? Grackaroni states that "noone in house Martell is talking to each other".

Is this true?


yamato has been very quiet in PMs. jkirby a moderate amount, but disappears for extended periods of time (internet issues?) and onegu quite active.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 12 2013 18:09 GMT
#2382
i'm confused about the grackaroni situation. am i missing something he posted in thread that he shouldn't have known? Or has this all happened in pms?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
August 12 2013 18:12 GMT
#2383
On August 13 2013 03:09 strongandbig wrote:
i'm confused about the grackaroni situation. am i missing something he posted in thread that he shouldn't have known? Or has this all happened in pms?

he said jkirby wasn't active in pms. How would he know that without extra information? but it looks like he could have inferred it from the thread.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2013 18:13 GMT
#2384
So you guys think Grackaroni is scum for reading the thread, Ace (while replacing) is scum for not being aware of everything on the first day, and johnnywup is not scum for not reading the thread and posting an useless list which WOULD be even somewhat useful if he had ACTUALLY read the thread?

tbh i am a bit confused why Ace is not PMing me if he does not know how some events went down. Risen has Ace been PMing you?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 12 2013 18:15 GMT
#2385
His post is about the whole house which he couldnt have learned from the thread
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2013 18:17 GMT
#2386
Like asap when i saw Ace replacing, i gave him my list of reads.
This is what i PM´s him:
Yo hey yo!

You replaced into nahcodude. He was in our house. Have you followed the game at all?

Risen wanted to be the house lord for the next phase. I do not oppose that. I have a town read on him, and i think he can deal with the timezones better (most of the players are Americans anyways). Here is my last reads post to him:

"Okay. I misread thinking only N0 for lord election was majority. I thought it was plurality after that. I´ll vote for you, because i am far more likely to die this night.

I PMd nacho asking if he is still playing or wtf?

I do not like Onegu, Sharrant, johnnywup atm. Also Oberyn gives me bad vibes.

There is something fishy going on with Oberyn/Onegu. Oberyn says Onegu has been active in PM´s, when i ask for Onegu´s reads, Oberyn stops answering me. When i say Onegu is not doing shit in thread, Oberyn goes silent. Yet he is still defending Onegu, for what reason?

When me and iamp discussed shooting sharrant on N1, he popped in, at put down some posts. What did the posts say? Nothing at all. He said he had read the thread, then he tried to soft-attack me by saying i am twisting Acro´s words. Acro had PM´d Sharrant regarding the thing he talked about, and it was clear from the thread i was not doing what he said. He was straight out lying about (1) me twisting words or (2) reading the thread fully. Then he came out with some reads. No scumreads, some weak meta reads why some people are town. Weak.

johnnywup is a fucking disaster. Just look at his posts near the deadline and throughout the whole phase. All that guy does is defending himself. And when people accuse him he goes "fuck you, i will stop playing".

I think there is also something fishy in Clarity/SnB/Oats stuff. Remember when people were accusing Clarity for his reaction test? That rant went on for hours and hours just because "someone had a townread on Clarity for some reasons". Why not just fucking out the read to get people discuss it? Then Oats' read was REALLY REALLY weak. You remember the reasons?

...
Oats´ post here
...


WTF is this reasoning? There is no reason to believe Clarity would have believed Oats´claim as scum, that nullifies the whole read.
After all i think SnB comes out from this as most scummiest. He should have taken the leader position as town and stop the bullshit. Oats, other than that post of his looks town to me. This is traditional Oats´ townplay, he is fucking off and saying stupid stuff. Clarity looks fairly town to me aswell, he is somewhat making sense, especially with his reads. IMO Clarity is amongst the people who have scumhunted the most at the time. I could kill like half of the town for not scumhunting.

Vivax is another guy i agree with you. Vivax has been really weak this game. There was some flashes of his town play late in D1, but i am not convinced. He said before the game he was gonna be busy for the early game, if he does not step up, lynch immediately.

I think Xatalos is making most sense in thread. He mirrors my thoughts on what´s best for the town like 100%, and he is trying to figure out stuff. He is probably my towniest read amongst you."


That being said: Vote for me as the house lord. Me + Risen are voting for him, we have no idea about your alignment. If Risen gets killed this phase, i am far better as a lord than you are, based on you replacing and me being active as fuck. Thanks. :D

Also give me some thoughts about the game when you are able to, please.

The formatting is because i talked about this earlier with Risen. I wanted Ace to be on the same page.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2013 18:18 GMT
#2387
On August 13 2013 03:15 Onegu wrote:
His post is about the whole house which he couldnt have learned from the thread

Yeah that´s what i want him to explain.
table for two on a tv tray
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
August 12 2013 18:20 GMT
#2388
You might want to edit out that PM if it is a direct quote.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 12 2013 18:21 GMT
#2389
GET MODKILLED RAYN
No gg, No skill.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 12 2013 18:22 GMT
#2390
rayn can you explain why you have a town read on risen?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 12 2013 18:22 GMT
#2391
On August 13 2013 03:20 Oberyn wrote:
You might want to edit out that PM if it is a direct quote.


you can quote yourself right?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2013 18:23 GMT
#2392
On August 13 2013 03:20 Oberyn wrote:
You might want to edit out that PM if it is a direct quote.

-PM Rules: You may ONLY use TL forum pms to pm each other. You may not post logs of pms, you can't post anything as if you'd received it from a player or host. You may role claim and refer to the content of pms, just no copying and pasting text or timestamps.

I am pretty sure i can quote my own PM's because the rules do not oppose it.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 12 2013 18:24 GMT
#2393
aw
No gg, No skill.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 12 2013 18:24 GMT
#2394
It doesnt say you cant quote yourself just host other players and logs
Try TL Mafia!!!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2013 18:25 GMT
#2395
On August 13 2013 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw

<3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2013 18:26 GMT
#2396
On August 13 2013 03:22 strongandbig wrote:
rayn can you explain why you have a town read on risen?

Do you really think his first reads post could come from scum!Risen? Basically because of that.
table for two on a tv tray
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 12 2013 18:26 GMT
#2397
Yeah I don't see how this Grack thing is scummy at all.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 12 2013 18:30 GMT
#2398
On August 13 2013 03:26 Chromatically wrote:
Yeah I don't see how this Grack thing is scummy at all.

Do you think there is a mole in the Lannister House? If so is it JrKirby, iamp, or Grack?
I had a good night of sleep.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 12 2013 18:31 GMT
#2399
On August 13 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 03:22 strongandbig wrote:
rayn can you explain why you have a town read on risen?

Do you really think his first reads post could come from scum!Risen? Basically because of that.


yes i do and i said why did you read my post?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 12 2013 18:33 GMT
#2400
iamperfection your read on risen seemed like it was mostly based on his effort in his one long post, at least that's what you said in pms with me on day1. You also said you were going to read some of his old games, did you do that?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
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